2016 Vuelta a España, stage 11: Colunga > Peña Cabarga

[RattaKuningas]

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I'm not really sure about this Tinkoff strategy. What does it accomplish exactly?

Good for spectators.

 

[DFA123]

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I'm not really sure about this Tinkoff strategy. What does it accomplish exactly?

Gets some nice TV time for the sponsors.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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I'm not really sure about this Tinkoff strategy. What does it accomplish exactly?

A nice stage win hopefully.

I think that at this point he should still have the overall win as his main priority and not go for stage wins.

 

[sir fly]

Tinkoff should save at least one domestique to help Contador positioning.
Movi and Sky will easily occupy the front of peloton when the time comes.

 

[jens_attacks]

alberto will annihilate them today.

tinkoff also flying after the rest day, good signs for later.

 

[Isaak-Gabriel]

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I'm not really sure about this Tinkoff strategy. What does it accomplish exactly?

Maybe unblock Alberto's legs after rest day, by making this stage harder even if it's flat before Peña Cabarga... stage win is possible, if he can create gaps why not, GC is the main goal in his mind.

 

[liamito]

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I'm not really sure about this Tinkoff strategy. What does it accomplish exactly?

A nice stage win hopefully.

I think that at this point he should still have the overall win as his main priority and not go for stage wins.

He probaly knows Movistar and Sky are too strong for a complete turnaround.

 

[huangho]

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I'm not really sure about this Tinkoff strategy. What does it accomplish exactly?

Reduce energy from the rest of the peloton before the base of Pena... Maybe it could be good for Bertie.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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I'm not really sure about this Tinkoff strategy. What does it accomplish exactly?

Reduce energy from the rest of the peloton before the base of Pena... Maybe it could be good for Bertie.

No, don't make it more complicated for yourself. They are simply catching the break.

 

[liamito]

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Tinkoff should save at least one domestique to help Contador positioning.
Movi and Sky will easily occupy the front of peloton when the time comes.

Bennati still there.

 

[Jungle Cycle]

AC + Tinkoff going for "all in"

 

[Red Rick]

Contador wants to be in the red before starting the climb, so he doesn't blow up attacking or following a move.

 

[carton]

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I'm not really sure about this Tinkoff strategy. What does it accomplish exactly?

Making sure the break does not win the stage

I think it's a smart play by them, and one that I hadn't though about. To start off, he's very unlikely to get 3 minutes on Quintana, so they won't have to control the next few days, hence spending their legs today won't cost them much. And if Contador can't start winning time soon, his odds will start going from slim to minimal. So they might as well put some bonus seconds and a stage win on the table. If he can pull it off, at least it would be a good psychological blow and a nice result. And it could be the start of a mythical comeback. On the flip side, at worst (edit: in terms of a direct result of going for it), he falls from 5th to 7th or whatever.

 

[Ataraxus]

Finally a mountain stage where we will have full camera coverage for the GC guys.

 

[PremierAndrew]

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I'm not really sure about this Tinkoff strategy. What does it accomplish exactly?

Reduce energy from the rest of the peloton before the base of Pena... Maybe it could be good for Bertie.

No, don't make it more complicated for yourself. They are simply catching the break.

At first glance, the stage profile suggests a flat run-in to the climb of Pena Cabarga, but on closer inspection, the road is made up of false flats, and little undulations. The Vuelta road book estimates that there is a total altitude gain of 2,500 metres on the stage, so there should be some heavy legs in the bunch come the final climb

 

[Alexandre B.]

Why are they talking of Van Garderen?

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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I'm not really sure about this Tinkoff strategy. What does it accomplish exactly?

Reduce energy from the rest of the peloton before the base of Pena... Maybe it could be good for Bertie.

It will be mano y mano on the last climb anyway, so I don't really buy that argument.

 

[Jelantik]

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I'm not really sure about this Tinkoff strategy. What does it accomplish exactly?

Good for spectators.

probably a bluff. Maybe Contador wasn't feeling well.

 

[Pricey_sky]

Glad the break is being caught so we can focus on the GC battle. Nothing worse than missing some key attacks because the broadcasters show the 10th and 11th place riders from the break crossing the line.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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I'm not really sure about this Tinkoff strategy. What does it accomplish exactly?

Good for spectators.

probably a bluff. Maybe Contador wasn't feeling well.

That actually makes sense.

 

[RattaKuningas]

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I'm not really sure about this Tinkoff strategy. What does it accomplish exactly?

Good for spectators.

probably a bluff. Maybe Contador wasn't feeling well.

In few kilometers we will find out.

 

[DFA123]

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I'm not really sure about this Tinkoff strategy. What does it accomplish exactly?

Good for spectators.

probably a bluff. Maybe Contador wasn't feeling well.

Not sure about that. You'd surely want the break to stay away in that case and sweep up all the bonus seconds.

 

[LaFlorecita]

He's already so far down and has shown so much weakness bluffing wouldn't be very effective.

 

[Brullnux]

Scarponi will win

 

[Red Rick]

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He's already so far down and has shown so much weakness bluffing wouldn't be very effective.

You shouldn't have a bluffing range on this stage