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2016 Vuelta a España, stage 13: Bilbao > Urdax-Dantxarinea

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Re: 2016 Vuelta a España, stage 13: Bilbao > Urdax-Dantxarin

Red Rick said:
Irondan said:
veji11 said:
Scarponi said:
That is one of the most disgusting disgraceful days in cycling ever. I am sickened

REally ? Why ??? Honestly ?

The peloton taking days off on some stages has ALWAYS happened, and it use to happen a lot more in the past !
Agreed.

This wasn't a highly unusual occurrence, although the time back to the peloton was a little more than I've seen but still the same, the peloton takes days off in the middle of grand tours.

The biggest reason I find it acceptable is me having good streams for the US Open :eek:

Yep,US Open saved the day.Better to watch Wozniacki vs Niculescu than this procession.
 
Re: 2016 Vuelta a España, stage 13: Bilbao > Urdax-Dantxarin

veji11 said:
lejarreta said:
Irondan said:
veji11 said:
Scarponi said:
That is one of the most disgusting disgraceful days in cycling ever. I am sickened

REally ? Why ??? Honestly ?

The peloton taking days off on some stages has ALWAYS happened, and it use to happen a lot more in the past !
Agreed.

This wasn't a highly unusual occurrence, although the time back to the peloton was a little more than I've seen but still the same, the peloton takes days off in the middle of grand tours.

Sorry, even if they take it easy, they don't arrive so late and they do some fighting in the last kms, or they do a little sprint. No consideration to they colleagues that had to wait for them to have their deserved rest, no consideration to the people that were at the finish line, no consideration to the TV stations or fans watching.

bah honestly you guys need to be a bit more tolerant. Even if the route has been not that hard, there has been battle everyday to get in the breakaway unlike what we have seen in the Tour and Giro, some stages have been ridden very hard by a peloton wanting to reel in the breakaway, it's the last GT of the season and everybody got 60 race days in their legs already, it was mighty hot, it's the longest stage of this Vuelta (which could have been a great stage fit just anywhere else in the Vuelta) AND it comes on the eve of the big scary king mountain stage tomorrow.

I don't blame the guys. You guys should just chill a bit in your armchair.

First of all, it was not mighty hot. Much hotter stages we have seen in Vuelta. Agreed on having this stage just before the queen stage. Being chilled in my armchair, I don't have the chance to do a "I will relax today, client and boss, cause you know what? tomorrow it is a very hard day of work"
 
Surprised Contador and Tinkoff didn't try to make the stage harder today. His hopes of the podium rest on Valverde, Chaves and Konig cracking big time somewhere - with tomorrow possibly the best chance. Soft pedalling the whole day is just going to play into their hands. Perhaps his team have lost a bit of belief and motivation though after wasting so much energy on the Pena Cabarga stage.
 
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carton said:
I think the problem is powermeters. Before they came along, this never happened. Oh wait, that's wrong. This used to happen all the effing time.

well done ! :D
 
Re: 2016 Vuelta a España, stage 13: Bilbao > Urdax-Dantxarin

veji11 said:
lejarreta said:
Irondan said:
veji11 said:
Scarponi said:
That is one of the most disgusting disgraceful days in cycling ever. I am sickened

REally ? Why ??? Honestly ?

The peloton taking days off on some stages has ALWAYS happened, and it use to happen a lot more in the past !
Agreed.

This wasn't a highly unusual occurrence, although the time back to the peloton was a little more than I've seen but still the same, the peloton takes days off in the middle of grand tours.

Sorry, even if they take it easy, they don't arrive so late and they do some fighting in the last kms, or they do a little sprint. No consideration to they colleagues that had to wait for them to have their deserved rest, no consideration to the people that were at the finish line, no consideration to the TV stations or fans watching.

bah honestly you guys need to be a bit more tolerant. Even if the route has been not that hard, there has been battle everyday to get in the breakaway unlike what we have seen in the Tour and Giro, some stages have been ridden very hard by a peloton wanting to reel in the breakaway, it's the last GT of the season and everybody got 60 race days in their legs already, it was mighty hot, it's the longest stage of this Vuelta (which could have been a great stage fit just anywhere else in the Vuelta) AND it comes on the eve of the big scary king mountain stage tomorrow.

I don't blame the guys. You guys should just chill a bit in your armchair.

Hear hear.
 
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Re: 2016 Vuelta a España, stage 13: Bilbao > Urdax-Dantxarin

lejarreta said:
veji11 said:
bah honestly you guys need to be a bit more tolerant. Even if the route has been not that hard, there has been battle everyday to get in the breakaway unlike what we have seen in the Tour and Giro, some stages have been ridden very hard by a peloton wanting to reel in the breakaway, it's the last GT of the season and everybody got 60 race days in their legs already, it was mighty hot, it's the longest stage of this Vuelta (which could have been a great stage fit just anywhere else in the Vuelta) AND it comes on the eve of the big scary king mountain stage tomorrow.

I don't blame the guys. You guys should just chill a bit in your armchair.

First of all, it was not mighty hot. Much hotter stages we have seen in Vuelta. Agreed on having this stage just before the queen stage. Being chilled in my armchair, I don't have the chance to do a "I will relax today, client and boss, cause you know what? tomorrow it is a very hard day of work"


oh come on ! There was a race, there was a breakaway, guys battled for the stage. Let's not pretend the peloton went on some sort of strike and nothing happened !
 
Re: 2016 Vuelta a España, stage 13: Bilbao > Urdax-Dantxarin

Please let me get this straight just because this happened in the peasant years of 20 years ago when the peloton wasn't as competitive is not a valid excuse for this happening. I am not blaming the Riders 100% I understand what is written before with the distance , heat, tone of season and stages to come that it's not a brutal pace set by the peloton but where I am coming from is that the day was a terrible example for the sport in general. Everyday in a sport should be competitive and that was a waste of humanity, why run the stage why would the organisers run such a stage before tomorrow's high mountains. I sat with friends tonight in Australia who don't follow cycling and I just put them off for life. But hey one of you drongos will quote this and say " it's happened for ever and quote a 1994 giro or a 2001 tdf or a 2004 Paris nice and all is right in this world and you don't see how ridiculous this looks as a sport whatever
 
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Scarponi said:
Everyday in a sport should be competitive and that was a waste of humanity

In an ideal world yes it should, but sport does not work that way. For every great day in any sport there is a crap day. I took a friend to see my beloved Football team and it was minus 5c and it ended 0-0 and was the worst game i ever saw. He was hooked though and his rewards came later.

As an Aussie you may get i spent all day at a test match watching Steve Waugh bat us into oblivion and we didnt take a wicket, now that was boring.

Basketball bores me senseless and that is all action with someone scoring every 20 seconds or so it seems.

Todays stage was pretty boring, but on the upside with everyone well rested it may make tomorrows epic
 
I think the biggest problem is that this stage happened on the stage that was one of the stages that, when the route was originally presented, was one of the most anticipated. They've changed the route to something much less interesting, and so its placement meant it was always going to end this way.

And, Covadonga excepted, the péloton's attitude in this race has given off many vibes of the 2009 Vuelta, a frustrating and negatively-raced edition where Caisse d'Epargne were happy to let the break go and manage the gap on several stages that served as absolute nothingness (save for the stage when Anthony Roux survived on the line, that was a great finish, but the rest of the stage was execrable), while the GC candidates that threatened Valverde were too worried about his sprint to put pressure on them. What we had here was the equivalent of the Lars Boom stage of the 2009 Vuelta, with Txente tapping out a rhythm all the way to the line.
 
A stage like this is almost inevitable when

1. Almost every stage has an unnecessary uphill finish

2. There are basically no sprint stages in a year with a pancake flat worlds - all the sprint teams CBF'd bringing their big names, so nobody wants to chase

3. The first rest day is 1 1/2 weeks into the race

The race organisers need to be put on notice IMO
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
I think the biggest problem is that this stage happened on the stage that was one of the stages that, when the route was originally presented, was one of the most anticipated. They've changed the route to something much less interesting, and so its placement meant it was always going to end this way.

And, Covadonga excepted, the péloton's attitude in this race has given off many vibes of the 2009 Vuelta, a frustrating and negatively-raced edition where Caisse d'Epargne were happy to let the break go and manage the gap on several stages that served as absolute nothingness (save for the stage when Anthony Roux survived on the line, that was a great finish, but the rest of the stage was execrable), while the GC candidates that threatened Valverde were too worried about his sprint to put pressure on them. What we had here was the equivalent of the Lars Boom stage of the 2009 Vuelta, with Txente tapping out a rhythm all the way to the line.

Really? What about Movistar working hard to bring the break back in stage 6? Or Astana being Astana on stage 7 and 12? Tinkoff in the stage to Peña Cabarga?

It's definitely not that bad.
 

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