2017 Worlds Championships startlist

[telencefalus]

where is Italian team , i would like to know how they will perform , Viiani or colbrelli ?

 

[Gigs_98]

The Belgian selection looks brutal. Only question who the leaders will be and if the whole team buy into the designated plan. Potentially they can rip the race to pieces with constant attacks and every rider named looks strong enough to be a viable winning card in a breakaway.

The idea of the Columbian climbers ripping it up is intriguing too.

The problem for Colombia is that their best chance to win or podium is also the 'worst' climber of the lot.

That is what makes it fascinating, they need to make the race hard enough to make it a shootout between Gaviria and Sagan and shed other hardier types like Demare but it will be tough to contain the Belgians and Italians without shedding their own main hope. Maybe if the group got small enough Uran becomes a sprinting from elite group option.

With Viviani in the form of his life i think Italy will control the race for him, riders like Bettiol, Moscon and even Nibali could go in the breaks but as stopper. Trentin will be the backup sprinter.

Not sure if italy should really commit 100% to viviani. Most of his wins lately weren't against the best opposition and looking at teams like Belgium, france, Poland, Netherlands, and Spain, I just can't imagine a race which is easy enough for viviani to win.

 

[del1962]

Michał Kwiatkowski will win this bike race

 

[kenk09]

The Belgian selection looks brutal. Only question who the leaders will be and if the whole team buy into the designated plan. Potentially they can rip the race to pieces with constant attacks and every rider named looks strong enough to be a viable winning card in a breakaway.

The idea of the Columbian climbers ripping it up is intriguing too.

The problem for Colombia is that their best chance to win or podium is also the 'worst' climber of the lot.

That is what makes it fascinating, they need to make the race hard enough to make it a shootout between Gaviria and Sagan and shed other hardier types like Demare but it will be tough to contain the Belgians and Italians without shedding their own main hope. Maybe if the group got small enough Uran becomes a sprinting from elite group option.

With Viviani in the form of his life i think Italy will control the race for him, riders like Bettiol, Moscon and even Nibali could go in the breaks but as stopper. Trentin will be the backup sprinter.

Not sure if italy should really commit 100% to viviani. Most of his wins lately weren't against the best opposition and looking at teams like Belgium, france, Poland, Netherlands, and Spain, I just can't imagine a race which is easy enough for viviani to win.

I expect it will be too hard for him, but I think that's a very harsh assessment of his wins. In Hamburg he beat just about everyone who is anyone; in Plouay he beat many of the names people are tipping for the worlds (Matthews, EBH, Kristoff, Colbrelli) on a course much more suited to them; Tour of Britain has Ewan, Gaviria, Groenewegen, EBH Kristoff.

 

[SafeBet]

I don't doubt Viviani could beat them in a sprint, but this is going to be a very tough race, possibly in rainy conditions. If you have other options (and Italy certainly has a couple) you have to use them.

 

[Nirvana]

The Belgian selection looks brutal. Only question who the leaders will be and if the whole team buy into the designated plan. Potentially they can rip the race to pieces with constant attacks and every rider named looks strong enough to be a viable winning card in a breakaway.

The idea of the Columbian climbers ripping it up is intriguing too.

The problem for Colombia is that their best chance to win or podium is also the 'worst' climber of the lot.

That is what makes it fascinating, they need to make the race hard enough to make it a shootout between Gaviria and Sagan and shed other hardier types like Demare but it will be tough to contain the Belgians and Italians without shedding their own main hope. Maybe if the group got small enough Uran becomes a sprinting from elite group option.

With Viviani in the form of his life i think Italy will control the race for him, riders like Bettiol, Moscon and even Nibali could go in the breaks but as stopper. Trentin will be the backup sprinter.

Not sure if italy should really commit 100% to viviani. Most of his wins lately weren't against the best opposition and looking at teams like Belgium, france, Poland, Netherlands, and Spain, I just can't imagine a race which is easy enough for viviani to win.

It's sure that Viviani will be dropped but at the start the squad will be for him.
Take in account also that previously designed leaders Modulo and Colbrelly are nowhere with only twenty day to go so they'll change the original plan.

 

[deneb]

It's sure that Viviani will be dropped but at the start the squad will be for him.
Take in account also that previously designed leaders Modulo and Colbrelly are nowhere with only twenty day to go so they'll change the original plan.

According to Cassani few minutes ago on Eurosport IT, Viviani will race in case of a bunch sprint but the captains are Trentin and Colbrelli.

 

[fauniera]

According to Cassani few minutes ago on Eurosport IT, Viviani will race in case of a bunch sprint but the captains are Trentin and Colbrelli.

Makes sense to me. Certainly more sense than Guimards decision to start without any sprinters.

By the way, the "hilly" part of the lap looks like this:

 

[GuyIncognito]

According to Cassani few minutes ago on Eurosport IT, Viviani will race in case of a bunch sprint but the captains are Trentin and Colbrelli.

Makes sense to me. Certainly more sense than Guimards decision to start without any sprinters.

By the way, the "hilly" part of the lap looks like this:

I still don't see the sense in betting on anything but a sprint.

Sure, it can happen. But it's not very likely.

 

[zapata]

Re: Re:

isnt this years WC Road Race ending with a uphill finish? you are talking about sprints

RR
ITT

There is a hill on the circuit, but not a very hard one and it is not at the finish.

The hill on the TTT course actually has a steeper average gradient, but having that would mean the circuit would be probably be far too big for whatever the UCI allow.

There is no other way to descend from that hill so they can use it only as finish.
It's not a problem of UCI allowance.

There are actually several alternative descents, but they are not paved. It would have been glorious to have a world championship decided by a descent on gravel, but no.

 

[zapata]

It'll be a msr scenario. Either van avermaet/sagan with ten seconds to a largish bunch, or gaviria/kristoff in a reduced sprint.

 

[telencefalus]

for colombia of course Gaviria , but i will curoius to see what will be the role of Quintana and uran , both of them will target some one day races later in italy so i don't know what they could do in wrr , just training ....who knows

 

[Alexandre B.]

France

Julian Alaphilippe
Lilian Calmejane
Tony Gallopin
Anthony Roux
Warren Barguil
Cyril Gautier
Alexis Gougeard
Olivier Le Gac
Julien Simon

 

[Alexandre B.]

Germany

John Degenkolb
Nikias Arndt
Marcus Burghardt
Simon Geschke
Tony Martin
Paul Martens
Nils Politt
Jasha Sütterlin
Rick Zabel

 

[Gigs_98]

Austria
Pöstlbeeger RR and TT
Mühlberger RR
Haller RR
Zoidl TT

Surprised neither mühlberger nor preidler ride the TT. Especially for preidler this route would have been great

 

[fauniera]

Preidler has problems with his achilles tendon. He hasn't raced sine July.

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

Austria
Pöstlbeeger RR and TT
Mühlberger RR
Haller RR
Zoidl TT

Surprised neither mühlberger nor preidler ride the TT. Especially for preidler this route would have been great

Is Brändle ill?

 

[jaylew]

Re:

France

Julian Alaphilippe
Lilian Calmejane
Tony Gallopin
Anthony Roux
Warren Barguil
Cyril Gautier
Alexis Gougeard
Olivier Le Gac
Julien Simon

I don't understand this selection. No Bouhanni, Démare, or Coquard. I can definitely see leaving one or two of them home, but you've got to include one of them at least, given this parcours. They're going to feel silly if this thing comes down to some kind of sprint.

 

[AQETUYIOI]

Re: Re:

... some kind of sprint.

How many do you think will partake in said sprint? Last year it was flat, and neither Bouhanni nor Démare took part in that sprint.

 

[PremierAndrew]

Re: Re:

... some kind of sprint.

How many do you think will partake in said sprint? Last year it was flat, and neither Bouhanni nor Démare took part in that sprint.

I'm sorry, but would you say the team is better off having Julien Simon than Bouhanni/Demare/Coquard

 

[AQETUYIOI]

Re: Re:

Smaller ego, better on the climb.

 

[Gigs_98]

Austria
Pöstlbeeger RR and TT
Mühlberger RR
Haller RR
Zoidl TT

Surprised neither mühlberger nor preidler ride the TT. Especially for preidler this route would have been great

Is Brändle ill?

I meant I am surprised neither preidler nor brändle are riding, no idea why I wrote mühlberger. Therefore also no idea what happened to brändle

 

[jaylew]

Re: Re:

... some kind of sprint.

How many do you think will partake in said sprint? Last year it was flat, and neither Bouhanni nor Démare took part in that sprint.

You never know. Could be a large group or something smaller. Obviously there's no guarantee they'd be there but at least give someone a chance. It's not like anyone they're bringing has a shot of winning any kind of sprint involving more than a few guys. They're certainly not beating Sagan.

 

[PremierAndrew]

Re: Re:

... some kind of sprint.

How many do you think will partake in said sprint? Last year it was flat, and neither Bouhanni nor Démare took part in that sprint.

You never know. Could be a large group or something smaller. Obviously there's no guarantee they'd be there but at least give someone a chance. It's not like anyone they're bringing has a shot of winning any kind of sprint involving more than a few guys. They're certainly not beating Sagan.

You never know in a sprint. Cav should have won last year, but chose the wrong side of the road, got obstructed by Matthews and the rest is history

 

[jfazendeiro]

According to Cassani few minutes ago on Eurosport IT, Viviani will race in case of a bunch sprint but the captains are Trentin and Colbrelli.

Makes sense to me. Certainly more sense than Guimards decision to start without any sprinters.

By the way, the "hilly" part of the lap looks like this:

I still don't see the sense in betting on anything but a sprint.

Sure, it can happen. But it's not very likely.

If helped, in worst scenario Colbrelli and Degenkolb can be with the leading group 3km after the top.

When I first saw the profile I imeaditly thought in A. Démare.