2019 Giro d'Italia, stage 4: Orbetello - Frascati 235km

[Salvarani]

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Ewan lost this by himself.

Carapaz made a really great attack at the right moment, more than Ewan losing it "by himself"

 

[SafeBet]

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Actually Yates, Nibali and MAL lost around 14 sec to Roglic, MS saved the 2nd groups me thinks.
Horrible to lose Tom for a stupid accident.

18 seconds.

I don't know how Nibali survived the crash. That Ineos rider (Sivakov?) crashed right into him I think.

 

[macbindle]

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Roglic was actually terrible lol.

Was he? If his aim is to win the Giro then he did the right thing.

 

[Jungle Cycle]

When we gonna have the last week with all the favorites??

 

[Arked]

There will be more crashes on those super long sprinter stages I'm afraid.

 

[Rollthedice]

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Actually Yates, Nibali and MAL lost around 14 sec to Roglic, MS saved the 2nd groups me thinks.
Horrible to lose Tom for a stupid accident.

Thought they were more like 30s back?

I saw 15.

 

[Salvarani]

Landa lost about 40 seconds I think

 

[Climbing]

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Actually Yates, Nibali and MAL lost around 14 sec to Roglic, MS saved the 2nd groups me thinks.
Horrible to lose Tom for a stupid accident.

18 seconds.

I don't know how Nibali survived the crash. That Ineos rider (Sivakov?) crashed right into him I think.

I guess luck and usual cat like reflexes. Yeah his group was 18 sec behind, but Roglic took a "buco" probably from first 3 riders.

 

[bajbar]

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Hmm, it seemed like Roglic didn't really want to go for it. Perhaps he didn't want to take advantage of the situation?

Seemed that way. Plus he thought Ulissi is going to go after Carapaz so he could follow him. Then he got boxed in in the corner. Then he stopped trying.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Roglic was actually terrible lol.

Was he? If his aim is to win the Giro then he did the right thing.

Not really, every second matters and if you can get 10 for free (and a stage win, lets not act like that doesnt mean something) you onbiously try to win.

 

[Eyeballs Out]

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Btw, Rogla was pretty terrible there. I thought he was the favourite before the stage.

Yeah he didn't do anything all day and then when called upon he fell to the last wheel in the group

It was a pretty good group for that finish but yeah with seconds at stake you'd expect him to be a bit better. Carapaz may well have been underestimated before this Giro

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

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Actually Yates, Nibali and MAL lost around 14 sec to Roglic, MS saved the 2nd groups me thinks.
Horrible to lose Tom for a stupid accident.

Puccio with a solid Kelderman. Revenge for 2017 :lol:

 

[King Boonen]

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Actually Yates, Nibali and MAL lost around 14 sec to Roglic, MS saved the 2nd groups me thinks.
Horrible to lose Tom for a stupid accident.

Thought they were more like 30s back?

I saw 15.

Just saw that for Yates, waiting on Nibs confirmation but that would be great (or as great as it can be after that).

 

[Valv.Piti]

He literally crashed right in front of Yates and Nibali, Lopez a bit on the left as well.

 

[Salvarani]

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There will be more crashes on those super long sprinter stages I'm afraid.

Yeah, at least during this first week. This not the last crash we will see. Later in the race it is usually more relaxed in the peloton I think. Less stress, than during the first week.

 

[spalco]

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Hmm, it seemed like Roglic didn't really want to go for it. Perhaps he didn't want to take advantage of the situation?

Maybe. I don't think he has any time to give away, but in a small sport like cycling I guess being too cutthroat can come back to hurt you too.

 

[tobydawq]

I wonder what happened to Yates. He was a good few spots in front of Sivakov's crash right on the wheel of Ackermann but ended up not in the front group.

 

[Pirazziattacks]

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Hmm, it seemed like Roglic didn't really want to go for it. Perhaps he didn't want to take advantage of the situation?

I thought it looked like he tried to go to the front after Carapaz attacked and then faded. Surely there's no way he wouldn't have tried to get boni seconds if he was strong enough.

 

[ice&fire]

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Landa lost about 40 seconds I think

So he's back to 2nd in Movistar GC?

 

[Brullnux]

Stage 4 finish is very tricky, might force the big guns to stay at the front and maybe some gaps will appear because of it. One tight corner in the last km and another long left hander about 200m from the finish.

Called it lads

 

[Salvarani]

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Landa lost about 40 seconds I think

So he's back to 2nd in Movistar GC?

So he will be great later :lol:

 

[Lequack]

 

[Red Rick]

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Stage 4 finish is very tricky, might force the big guns to stay at the front and maybe some gaps will appear because of it. One tight corner in the last km and another long left hander about 200m from the finish.

Called it lads

Everything will happen as long as you're vague enough.

 

[movingtarget]

Not sure what Ewan was doing. Butchered the stage win.

 

[tobydawq]

It really does look like Roglic does not try at all on the hill.

Very sympathetic.