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I do not understand this at all!
I think we are yet to see the 5 toughest mountain stages in the race, including a brutal trio in the last week, where those that have had a shaky preparation for the Tour, may very well run out of gas.
There are still many questions to be answered:
Will Thomas' less than stellar preparation cost too much in week 3?
Can a 22 year old avoid an off day in a grand tour?
Will the anonymous trio (so far) of Yates, Kruijswijk and Buchmann be able to challenge for the win?
Will Quintana cheat them all and prove why he used to be the most hyped GT contender?
Will Dan Martin be a real contender, the first time he has a proper GC team working for him?
Will Porte, Bardet, Pinot, Fuglsang and Uran light up the pyrenees with aggressive riding, in an attempt to get back in contention?
Will Alaphilippe surprise us all in the GC, and what will that do for Mas' chances in the GC?
Plenty to look forward to IMO
Amazinmets87 said:
I do not understand this at all!
I think we are yet to see the 5 toughest mountain stages in the race, including a brutal trio in the last week, where those that have had a shaky preparation for the Tour, may very well run out of gas.
There are still many questions to be answered:
Will Thomas' less than stellar preparation cost too much in week 3?
Can a 22 year old avoid an off day in a grand tour?
Will the anonymous trio (so far) of Yates, Kruijswijk and Buchmann be able to challenge for the win?
Will Quintana cheat them all and prove why he used to be the most hyped GT contender?
Will Dan Martin be a real contender, the first time he has a proper GC team working for him?
Will Porte, Bardet, Pinot, Fuglsang and Uran light up the pyrenees with aggressive riding, in an attempt to get back in contention?
Will Alaphilippe surprise us all in the GC, and what will that do for Mas' chances in the GC?
Plenty to look forward to IMO
thehog
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Poels is far from weak. They did the same last year, he basically takes the first week off and rests to then be last man standing for Thomas and Bernal.
We've already seen from Landa's attack on Stage 6, its next to useless as Ineos ride tempo till they catch. The same with Bennett, Porte and Bardet yesterday.
The only way to beat Ineos is when they crash, there is not really any other way I can see them losing.
Amazinmets87 said:
Poels is far from weak. They did the same last year, he basically takes the first week off and rests to then be last man standing for Thomas and Bernal.
We've already seen from Landa's attack on Stage 6, its next to useless as Ineos ride tempo till they catch. The same with Bennett, Porte and Bardet yesterday.
The only way to beat Ineos is when they crash, there is not really any other way I can see them losing.
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Nothing to do with his lead-out. Matthews waited inexplicably long to launch.
Jagartrott said:His lead out was way too slow, so he got overwhelmed from behind. He himself did a pretty fast sprint at the end.Captain Serious said:WTF happened to Matthews? Not enough lead-out guys?
Bad legs, or did he just f**k it up? Something else I couldn't see?
Nothing to do with his lead-out. Matthews waited inexplicably long to launch.
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Of course Buchmann hasn't had GC wins in Suisse, Paris-Nice, California, and Colombia in the last 2 seasons while not yet having the opportunity to lead at a GT.Broccolidwarf said:ppanther92 said:
Neither has Bernal
Fuglsangs daily column in danish newspaper BT got publised.
Apparently the reason Cort did all that work up front, was a deal Cort made with Moerkoev, that if he did work in the DQ train, Fuglsang could sit on the end of it and be shielded from wind (Moerkoev is the road captain).
That however created some dissatisfaction from other riders, incl. Wellens, who started to push him over the spot - so they dropped it halfway through.
He further says their scouting party driving ahead of the peloton, had reported no danger for the rest of the stage, on wide easy roads.
He accepts responsibility for the poor positioning and the end result, and writes that from now on, he will be a tougher boss during the race, to force the team to be better at positioning.
That seems like a rather late realisation........ especially since Astana have been critiqued about this after every stage so far.
Last in the column he writes, that it is now clear he needs to start winning back time (no more defensive riding?).
Apparently the reason Cort did all that work up front, was a deal Cort made with Moerkoev, that if he did work in the DQ train, Fuglsang could sit on the end of it and be shielded from wind (Moerkoev is the road captain).
That however created some dissatisfaction from other riders, incl. Wellens, who started to push him over the spot - so they dropped it halfway through.
He further says their scouting party driving ahead of the peloton, had reported no danger for the rest of the stage, on wide easy roads.
He accepts responsibility for the poor positioning and the end result, and writes that from now on, he will be a tougher boss during the race, to force the team to be better at positioning.
That seems like a rather late realisation........ especially since Astana have been critiqued about this after every stage so far.
Last in the column he writes, that it is now clear he needs to start winning back time (no more defensive riding?).
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No signs of that.
No signs of that.
No signs of that.
No signs of that.
No signs of that.
Nothing that seems to threaten Ineos. They can even afford a crash or two.
Ineos were favourites before today, now even more so, and considering the Tour's well-known potential of being boring and predictable, I'm not an optimist.Plenty to look forward to IMO
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Yeah, because the 5 riders that lost time were proven riders to win the race!!Cance > TheRest said:
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Thanks for posting this.
I'm afraid this could lead to more wrong decisions from Astana. They'll desperately push their riders forward early, thus having no-one left in the final to help Fuglsang. That's what could happen if the team overreacts. I've already seen signs of this, with the team sitting at the front without any clear objective.
The whole thing with Cort today was so unprofessional.
Broccolidwarf said:
Thanks for posting this.
I'm afraid this could lead to more wrong decisions from Astana. They'll desperately push their riders forward early, thus having no-one left in the final to help Fuglsang. That's what could happen if the team overreacts. I've already seen signs of this, with the team sitting at the front without any clear objective.
The whole thing with Cort today was so unprofessional.
Re: 2019 Tour de France, stage 10: Saint-Flour > Albi 217,5
Yes to the first part of the sentence, definitely no to the last part. After today.
Yes to the first part of the sentence, definitely no to the last part. After today.
Re: 2019 Tour de France, stage 10: Saint-Flour > Albi 217,5
What a ray of sunlight you are this evening.
Danskebjerge said:
What a ray of sunlight you are this evening.
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Oliver Naesen too :lol:
Cinemaniak said:Elia Viviani's face when he's sees ANOTHER black-and-yellow guy beating him....
Oliver Naesen too :lol:
rick james
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Ineos deserve more credit for giving us the sort of racing everybody craves....monster performance from the team
Today is a good reminder of why the Tour is so darn exciting. On ANY day, chaos can blow the race up.
Who is the Astana road captain ?
If you have a very strong road captain thne the leader can relax and leave them to it
Luke Rowe is a point in question...he guides Thomas and the team and whips them into shape
A good road captain is worth his weight in gold
If you have a very strong road captain thne the leader can relax and leave them to it
Luke Rowe is a point in question...he guides Thomas and the team and whips them into shape
A good road captain is worth his weight in gold
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Astana have been sitting forward and together, for the first 3/4 of every stage, except stage 1.
It's in the finale of every stage they vanish, every time, except for Lutsenko who is riding a stellar tour.
As for "the Cort thing" being "unprofessional", I don't really see why? - Alliances are formed all the time in the peloton, and as the team was clearly unable to ride coherently today, I think Cort made a smart choice, to make a deal with DQ in the moment.
Danskebjerge said:
Astana have been sitting forward and together, for the first 3/4 of every stage, except stage 1.
It's in the finale of every stage they vanish, every time, except for Lutsenko who is riding a stellar tour.
As for "the Cort thing" being "unprofessional", I don't really see why? - Alliances are formed all the time in the peloton, and as the team was clearly unable to ride coherently today, I think Cort made a smart choice, to make a deal with DQ in the moment.
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Without knowing, I assume its Sanchez.
Problem is, that Sanchez is riding with a bad back, and not able to hack it.
But either way, Fuglsang is way too experienced a rider, to not assume that responsibility himself, if nobody else does.
He's the captain, he has to lead.
HelloDolly said:
Without knowing, I assume its Sanchez.
Problem is, that Sanchez is riding with a bad back, and not able to hack it.
But either way, Fuglsang is way too experienced a rider, to not assume that responsibility himself, if nobody else does.
He's the captain, he has to lead.
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Usually I am used to full disagreement with 99% of what you say, but fully agree here. It's been a fabulous first week, and Skineos helped turn a boring stage into an exciting one.rick james said:
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Its not that simple
If you are a GC contender you need to be able to rely on the team to make sure the other riders are doing their jobs ...you cannot do everything
Mostly you need to be guided to the right place, kept safe and out of the wind
You need to rely on other to do this
Good team have good road captains
Great teams have great road captains
Broccolidwarf said:
Its not that simple
If you are a GC contender you need to be able to rely on the team to make sure the other riders are doing their jobs ...you cannot do everything
Mostly you need to be guided to the right place, kept safe and out of the wind
You need to rely on other to do this
Good team have good road captains
Great teams have great road captains
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Now that is a very funny picture.
(On a serious note, look where Thomas is).
Cinemaniak said:Elia Viviani's face when he's sees ANOTHER black-and-yellow guy beating him....
Now that is a very funny picture.
(On a serious note, look where Thomas is).
Geraint Thomas dropped - peloton stops
Pinot dropped - peloton hits full gas
OK, there is nothing to see here
Pinot dropped - peloton hits full gas
OK, there is nothing to see here
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