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2020 Classics CQ Game Redux

Back when this year appeared to be like any other, 33 of us entered the Spring Classics CQ Game.

We chose teams of 12 riders, (maximum total 2019 CQ score of 3000) to score points in 24 European 1.Pro and 1.WT races in the Spring.

But after 4 races, the world went mad, and there were no more races. I declared Vladimir the winner, and have no intention of depriving him of that title. But all the effort that we put into picking our teams yielded precious little sport, so let's have another go.

The goals of some riders, and the balance of skills that will gain points, have changed, so I will allow you to change up to 6 of your team, but the total budget (still based on year to 31/12/19 CQ scores) remains the same. We will all have had the benefit (if it is a benefit) of seeing other people's selections, but deciding whether it is good to be guided by that remains your judgement.

Scores already gained (from Omloop, Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne, Faun-Ardeche and Drome) are retained: ditching, or taking on, riders who scored in those races will not affect your score. But of the remaining 17 races listed for that game, several have abandoned any thought of re-scheduling for this year (GP Industria & Artigianato, Nokere Koerse, GP Denain, Koksijde Classic, GP Indurain, Tro-Bro Léon, Eschborn Frankfurt and Dwars door Vlaanderen), and that leaves us with gaps in the spreadsheet, and the freedom to choose outside the Spring period.

So I will be replacing those 8 races with Il Lombardia, Bretagne- Ouest France, GP Quebec, GP Montreal, World Championships Road Race, Milan-Torino, Paris-Tours and Dwars door het Hageland (ie, the WT one day races that were not at the right time of year, the WCRR, two of my favourite 1.Pro races and the one that seems to be the most spring classic-like).

If you don't submit any changes, I'll enter your team as it is anyway, so if you entered in February, you can't escape. And if you didn't enter in February, I will allow a new entry, but you obviously don't get the points some people have already banked from early in the season, and also have a reduced budget (10% lower, 2700 2019 points) to make up for your selection not being at least half those you fancied the chances of 5 months ago (and as a punishment for your disloyalty to the game back then).

Teams to me by the start of Strade Bianche on 1 August by PM please, either here or at Velorooms: as ever, just the name (no prices, no team names) and in CQ format (Surname Forename and watch out for how CQ treats Spanish Portuguese and Danish names, among others) if at all possible.

I'll need to do a bit of alteration to the spreadsheet, so I'll do that tomorrow and then get back here with a clearer formatted list of the races and anything else that I may have missed. Until then, have a think about how that changed list of races, and objectives of the riders, might make you want to alter your team. Here is the original spreadsheet: that will show you your original picks (and everyone else's) and gives (on the Price tab) a list of 2019 prices and the CQ versions of names.
 
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So since I announced the redux game, two of the new list ( the Canadian races) have been cancelled. So I will replace them with 2 more 1.Pro events (Eurometropole and Wallonie), but from here on, anything cancelled just means one event fewer here.

So the races for the Redux Classics game are:
Omloop
Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne
Faun-Ardeche
Drome
Those have already been run, and your team points for those are locked in, regardless of what team changes you might make.

1 Aug Strade Bianche (180 pts for winner, 108 2nd, 92 3rd, 5 for finishing)
5 Aug Milan Torino (130, 78, 66: top 30 score)
8 Aug Milan San Remo (280, 170, 145, 5 to finish)
15 Aug Dwars door het Hageland (as Milan-Torino)
15 Aug Lombardia (as Milan- San Remo)
25 Aug Bretagne Ouest France (220, 132, 112, 5 to finish)
12 Sept Eurometropole (as Milan Torino)
16 Sept GP de Wallonie (as Milan Torino)
27 Sept World Championship RR (400, 240, 210, 10 to finish)
30 Sept Fleche Wallonne (as Ouest France)
4 Oct Liege-Bastogne-Liege (as Milan San Remo)
7 Oct Brabantse Pijl (as Milan Torino)
10 Oct Amstel Gold (as Ouest France)
11 Oct Gent- Wevelgem (as Ouest France)
11 Oct Paris Tours (as Milan Torino)
14 Oct Scheldeprijs (as Milan Torino)
18 Oct Ronde van Vlaanderen (as Milan San Remo)
21 Oct Dreidaagse De Panne (as Strade Bianche)
25 Oct Paris-Roubaix (as Milan San Remo)

The high points yield of the WCRR considering the different profile of riders who might shine there compared to most of the list might make for some interesting selection decisions.

I guess I need to start reading some of these statements on who intends doing what races. Let me know if there are any questions, otherwise I will simply sit back and await your transfers in and out (or indeed, new entries).
 
A few more hours this evening, and a few tomorrow morning, if you want to make any alterations to the team you sent in in February, or if you want to come in as a new entry.

Only three managers have made any alterations so far, including me. Time is running short for the rest of you.
 
No-one came in as a new, penalised, entry, and only 4 teams made any changes:

Amis Velo
Out: SAGAN Peter
VAN DER HOORN Taco


In:VAN POPPEL Danny
VAN DER POEL Mathieu

Bminchow
Out: ANDERSEN Søren Kragh
JUNGELS Bob
THEUNS Edward
MCLAY Daniel
EDMONDSON Alexander


In:VAN DER POEL Mathieu
DILLIER Silvan
BATTAGLIN Enrico
COVI Alessandro
KANTER Max


Search
Out:DE BACKER Bert
DEVENYNS Dries
FELLINE Fabio
MOSCON Gianni
VAN AERT Wout

In: DE BIE Sean
KWIATKOWSKI Michal
MODOLO Sacha
SCHACHMANN Maximilian
SIMMONS Quinn


And my own switches
Armchair Cyclist
Out:DILLIER Silvan
MOSCON Gianni
KÄMNA Lennard


In: KREUZIGER Roman
KELDERMAN Wilco
FROOME Chris
 
Race 5 Strade Bianche

A popular pick as a winner, and the game already has very nearly as many points earned in August as in the spring.
VAN AERT Wout 1st, 180pts 14 teams
SCHACHMANN Maximilian 3rd, 92pts for Search
BETTIOL Alberto 4th, 78 4 teams
STYBAR Zdenek 6th, 62 8
ROSA Diego 10th, 36 1
KWIATKOWSKI Michal 12th, 27 6
VAN DER POEL Mathieu 15th, 20 9
and four more finishers for 5 points each.


1= Comodoro, Josedin 258 (Van Aert and Bettiol) (65 Green points each)
3= Otoxiep87, RoteLaterne 247 (Van Aert, Stybar and a 5) (30)
5 Zaka_Fan 242 (Van Aert, Stybar) (15)
6 Armchair 207 (Van Aert, Kwiatkowski) (10)
7 SemirS 205 (Van Aert, Van der Poel and a 5) (5)
8 Bminchow 200 (Van Aert, Van der Poel) (3)
9 Tobydawq 185 (Van Aert and a 5) (2)
10= DJSprtsch, Madrazo, Salvarani, Scrool07, Shalgo 180 (0.2)
15 BlackBandit222 140
16 Search 119
17 Leadbelly 87
18 Northerner 78
19= Googolplex, Laarsland, LosBrolin 62
22 Joelsim 56
23= Del1962, Hakkie2 32
25= Glomser, NorthAmericanScum 27
27= AmisVelo, Blues_in_the_Bottle, JustSomeGuy, MellowVelo, Triley36 20
32 Vladimir 5
33 Kazistuta 0
CollectiveWisdom 242

Green Point standings
Joint 3rd today lifts Otoxiep from 4th to top of this ranking
1 Otoxiep87 110
2 Googolplex 97.97
3 JustSomeGuy 92.56
4 Vladimir 85
5 Josedin 80
6 Comodoro 65
7 Hakkie2 62.56
8 Salvarani 54.79
8 Shalgo 54.79
10 Laarsland 54.59

Standings

Today's race scored almost as many as the 4 earlier ones, therefore there is only a passing similarity between this and the pre-lockdown standings. The only real consistency (apart from BitB in last) is the virtual lead of the Collective Wisdom team. The top three were 8th, 9th and 17th before this race, but Otoxiep's jump is beaten by Rote Laterne and Comodoro, each moving up 18 spots.

1 Josedin 415
2 Zaka_Fan 395
3 Otoxiep87 388
4 Bminchow 374
5= Madrazo 359
5= RoteLaterne 359
7 Armchair 355
8 Salvarani 327
9 Tobydawq 325
10 DJSprtsch 310
11 Shalgo 305
12 Search 304
13 Comodoro 288
14 SemirS 243
15 Googolplex 240
16 Leadbelly 235
17 Northerner 224
18 Vladimir 221
19 Scrool07 218
20 LosBrolin 215
21 Glomser 198
22 AmisVelo 185
23 BlackBandit222 176
24 Del1962 174
25 Laarsland 162
26 MellowVelo 161
27 Kazistuta 147
28 JustSomeGuy 141
29 Hakkie2 129
30 Joelsim 103
31 Triley36 65
32 NorthAmericanScum 53
33 Blues_in_the_Bottle 35
CollectiveWisdom 469


1 Josedin 415
2 Zaka_Fan 395
3 Otoxiep87 388
4 Bminchow 374
5 Madrazo 359
5 RoteLaterne 359
7 Armchair 355
8 Salvarani 327
9 Tobydawq 325
10 DJSprtsch 310
11 Shalgo 305
12 Search 304
13 Comodoro 288
14 SemirS 243
15 Googolplex 240
16 Leadbelly 235
17 Northerner 224
18 Vladimir 221
19 Scrool07 218
20 LosBrolin 215
21 Glomser 198
22 AmisVelo 185
23 BlackBandit222 176
24 Del1962 174
25 Laarsland 162
26 MellowVelo 161
27 Kazistuta 147
28 JustSomeGuy 141
29 Hakkie2 129
30 Joelsim 103
31 Triley36 65
32 NorthAmericanScum 53
33 Blues_in_the_Bottle 35
CollectiveWisdom 469
 
Only 4 people made changes? Wow. Maybe they are just not paying attention. It is really hard to know who will start in what race. Armchair out in Froome. I may need to go look at the list of races again. This seems like a sneaky play.:)
 
Only 4 people made changes? Wow. Maybe they are just not paying attention. It is really hard to know who will start in what race. Armchair out in Froome. I may need to go look at the list of races again. This seems like a sneaky play.:)
Yeah, I was very surprised to see myself do that. But I had been keen to get rid of Moscon, and took fear at how long Dillier would be exiled with his Covid diagnosis. So I brought in a couple of climbier guys (we now have Lombardia, the Aigle Worlds, Namur finishing Wallonie and Milan-Torino until I realised too late that Superga had been excised) and had about 84 points left. So I reckoned if he can make any sort of appearance in the Worlds, or if he finally cracks the top 30 in LBL, then he wouldn't be bad value in this one.
 
Maybe there is something calming in doing this, takes my mind of what we all just saw in Poland. Hope it doesn't feel disrespectful or trite.

Race 6 Milan-Torino but not the Milano-Torino we normally see.

VAN AERT Wout 3rd, 66pts 14 teams
Van Poppel Danny 5th, 52pts 5 teams
BOUHANNI Nacer 6th, 46pts 8 teams
plus 3 others in the top 15, scoring in the teens, and 2 five point, top 30, finishers.

1 DJSprtsch 141 (Van Aert, Van Poppel, Naesen (18) Zabel (5)) (80 green points)
2 AmisVelo 114 (Van Poppel, Bouhanni, Van der Poel (16)) (50)
3= Armchair, Comodoro 112 (Van Aert, Bouhanni) (30 each)
5 Northerner 98 (Van Poppel, Bouhanni) (15)
6 SemirS 87 (10)
7 Bminchow 82 (5)
8 Salvarani 78 (3)
9= Josedin, Madrazo, Otoxiep87, RoteLaterne, Scrool07, Shalgo, Tobydawq, Zaka_Fan 66 (0.38 each)
17 Triley36 62
18= Glomser, NorthAmericanScum 52
20 Laarsland 51
21= Del1962, LosBrolin 46
23= Blues_in_the_Bottle, Joelsim, JustSomeGuy, Leadbelly, MellowVelo 16
28= BlackBandit222, Googolplex, Hakkie2, Kazistuta, Search, Vladimir 0
CollectiveWisdom 112

Green points
Comodoro up from 6th to 3rd, DJS into the top ten.

1 Otoxiep87 110.38
2 Googolplex 97.97
3 Comodoro 95
4 JustSomeGuy 92.56
5 Vladimir 85
6 Josedin 80.38
7 DJSprtsch 80.2
8 Hakkie2 62.56
9 Salvarani 57.79
10 Shalgo 55.17


Standings

Josedin holds onto the lead, while Armchair jumps 5 places to 2nd. DJSprtsch moves up from 10th to 6th as the top scorer today, and Comodoro just nudges into the top ten, while Amis Velo has a 6 place move to be jumper of the day.

1 Josedin 481
2 Armchair 467
3 Zaka_Fan 461
4 Bminchow 456
5 Otoxiep87 454
6 DJSprtsch 451
7 Madrazo 425
7 RoteLaterne 425
9 Salvarani 405
10 Comodoro 400
11 Tobydawq 391
12 Shalgo 371
13 SemirS 330
14 Northerner 322
15 Search 304
16 AmisVelo 299
17 Scrool07 284
18 LosBrolin 261
19 Leadbelly 251
20 Glomser 250
21 Googolplex 240
22 Vladimir 221
23 Del1962 220
24 Laarsland 213
25 MellowVelo 177
26 BlackBandit222 176
27 JustSomeGuy 157
28 Kazistuta 147
29 Hakkie2 129
30 Triley36 127
31 Joelsim 119
32 NorthAmericanScum 105
33 Blues_in_the_Bottle 51
CollectiveWisdom 581

Spreadsheet at Google Drive

Reconvene here after Milan-San Remo
 
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Race 7: Milan-San Remo

Sometimes the biggest races score low in this game, because the main protagonists prove too expensive to fit into a team. Not this time, for the winner if no-one else in the top 12, and WvA looks like he might be an essential for any team to get anywhere in the game.

VAN AERT Wout 1st, 280pts for 14 teams
VAN DER POEL Mathieu 13th, 42 pts 9 teams
NAESEN Oliver 14th, 38 for Salvarani
KWIATKOWSKI Michal 15th, 34 6
JORGENSON Matteo 17th, 30 for Black Bandit
BETTIOL Alberto 18th, 28 4
STYBAR Zdenek 19th, 26 8
STANNARD Robert 26th, 12 1
and 20 other finishers, getting 5 points each


1 Armchair 329 (Van Aert, Kwiatkowski and 3 fives) (80 green points)
2 SemirS 327 (Van Aert, Van der Poel and one fiver) (50)
3 Comodoro 323 (Van Aert, Bettiol and 3 fives) (35)
4 Bminchow 322 (Van Aert and Van der Poel) (25)
5 Salvarani 318 (15)
6 Otoxiep87 316 (10)
7 Josedin 313 (5)
8= RoteLaterne, Zaka_Fan 311 (2.5 each)
10 DJSprtsch 305 (1)
11= Shalgo, Tobydawq 295
13 Madrazo, Scrool07 290
15 BlackBandit222 84
16 Leadbelly 73
17 Del1962 71
18 AmisVelo 62
19 Blues_in_the_Bottle 52
19 Triley36 52
21= Glomser, Search 49
23= Joelsim, JustSomeGuy 47
25 LosBrolin 46
26 Hakkie2 44
27 Northerner 43
28 MellowVelo 42
29 Laarsland 41
30 NorthAmericanScum 39
31 Googolplex 31
32 Kazistuta 20
33 Vladimir 15
CollectiveWisdom 316

Green Jersey
1 Comodoro 130
2 Armchair 126
3 Otoxiep87 120.38
4 Googolplex 97.97
5 JustSomeGuy 92.56
6 Josedin 85.38
7 Vladimir 85
8 DJSprtsch 81.2
9 Salvarani 72.79
10 Bminchow 72.59


Standings
In an unlikely development, I seem to have both top scored today and moved up to the top of the tabel. I'm sure normal service will be resumed soon. Bminchow has also moved up onto the podium, and Comodoro and Salvarani move up within the top ten. Scrool07 and Blackbandit222 share the honourable mention for having moved forward most (3 places).

1 Armchair 796
2 Josedin 794
3 Bminchow 778
4 Zaka_Fan 772
5 Otoxiep87 770
6 DJSprtsch 756
7 RoteLaterne 736
8 Comodoro 723
8 Salvarani 723
10 Madrazo 715
11 Tobydawq 686
12 Shalgo 666
13 SemirS 657
14 Scrool07 574
15 Northerner 365
16 AmisVelo 361
17 Search 353
18 Leadbelly 324
19 LosBrolin 307
20 Glomser 299
21 Del1962 291
22 Googolplex 271
23 BlackBandit222 260
24 Laarsland 254
25 Vladimir 236
26 MellowVelo 219
27 JustSomeGuy 204
28 Triley36 179
29 Hakkie2 173
30 Kazistuta 167
31 Joelsim 166
32 NorthAmericanScum 144
33 Blues_in_the_Bottle 103
CollectiveWisdom 897


And with WvA having taken 526 points since the three races since the relaunch and the opportunity to change your team (the lowest team that chose him is a head of the highest that did not), Search may be permitted to kick himself for having dropped him in favour of Schachmann.

Two races next Saturday, Lombardia and Hageland: until then, numbers galore
 
Two races today, the minor one of which has finished first:
Race 8: Dwars door het Hageland

Included to retain some of the minor cobbled category that some riders may have been selected for.

Hakkie and Northerner both have the winner (130 points), Jonas Rickaert, and 2nd placed Eekhoff (78 pts) is on 7 teams (Blues in the Bottle, Bminchow, Del1962, Josedin, Laarsland, Leadbelly and Los Brolin)
Also Senechal (4th, 58 for 4 teams) Merlier (5th, 52, 3), Van der Hoorn (11th, 20, 3) Van Gestel (12th, 18, 1) and 4 5 pointers (21st -30th), including popular bargain Sean de Bie.

Northerner 188 (80 green points)
Josedin 140 (50)
Laarsland 136 (35)
Hakkie2 130 (25)
Blues_in_the_Bottle 103 (15)
Del1962, Leadbelly 83 (7.5 each)
Bminchow, LosBrolin 78 (2.5)
MellowVelo, Vladimir 58 (0.5)
NorthAmericanScum, Zaka_Fan 52
Kazistuta 25
Scrool07 20
Otoxiep87 18
AmisVelo, DJSprtsch, Joelsim 10
Armchair, Comodoro, Googolplex, RoteLaterne, Salvarani, Search, Tobydawq 5
BlackBandit222, Glomser, JustSomeGuy, Madrazo, SemirS, Shalgo, Triley36 0

CollectiveWisdom 5

Green points
Josedin from 6th to top

1 Josedin 135.38
2 Comodoro 130
3 Armchair 126
4 Northerner 125
5 Otoxiep87 120.38
6 Googolplex 97.97
7 JustSomeGuy 92.56
8 Laarsland 89.59
9 Hakkie2 87.56
10 Vladimir 85.5

Standings

Those who were second, third and fourth before this race all overtake the erstwhile leader. No other changes of position in the top 15. Search and Leadbelly each move up 7 places.

1 Josedin 934
2 Bminchow 856
3 Zaka_Fan 824
4 Armchair 801
5 Otoxiep87 788
6 DJSprtsch 766
7 RoteLaterne 741
8 Comodoro 728
8 Salvarani 728
10 Madrazo 715
11 Tobydawq 691
12 Shalgo 666
13 SemirS 657
14 Scrool07 594
15 Northerner 553
16 Leadbelly 407
17 Laarsland 390
18 LosBrolin 385
19 Del1962 374
20 AmisVelo 371
21 Search 358
22 Hakkie2 303
23 Glomser 299
24 Vladimir 294
25 MellowVelo 277
26 Googolplex 276
27 BlackBandit222 260
28 Blues_in_the_Bottle 206
29 JustSomeGuy 204
30 NorthAmericanScum 196
31 Kazistuta 192
32 Triley36 179
33 Joelsim 176
CollectiveWisdom 902
 
Race 9: Il Lombardia

The bigger of today's races, but a smaller contribution to the game's points total than Hageland. In the same way, I suppose, as we choose riders such that the Ardennes races tend to yield fewer points than the cobbles.

SCHACHMANN Maximilian 7th, 90 pts for Search, who swapped him in in the break
VAN DER POEL Mathieu 10th, 62 points 9 teams
DE MARCHI Alessandro 11th 54 for Otoxiep87
KELDERMAN Wilco 19th, 26 1
GESCHKE Simon 20th, 24 2
and 5 five point finishers

1 Search 114 (Schachmann and Geschke) (80 green points)
2 MellowVelo 91 (Van der Poel, Geschke and a five) (50)
3= Bminchow, Joelsim 67 (30)
5= AmisVelo, Blues_in_the_Bottle, JustSomeGuy, Leadbelly, SemirS, Triley36 62 (6)
11 Otoxiep87 54
12 Armchair 26
13 Del1962 10
14= Comodoro, Kazistuta, LosBrolin, NorthAmericanScum, Vladimir 5
19= Everyone else, including CollectiveWisdom 0

Green points

1 Josedin 135.38
2 Comodoro 130
2 Search 130
4 Armchair 126
5 Northerner 125
6 Otoxiep87 120.38
7 Bminchow 105.09
8 JustSomeGuy 98.56
9 Googolplex 97.97
10 Laarsland 89.59


Standings

Zaka Fan's place on the virtual podium lasted only a couple of hours, with Otoxiep passing both him and Armchair to third. Semir's two-headed team makes the top ten, and Search adds to his 7 place jump earlier today with a 5 place move now.

1 Josedin 934
2 Bminchow 923
3 Otoxiep87 842
4 Armchair 827
5 Zaka_Fan 824
6 DJSprtsch 766
7 RoteLaterne 741
8 Comodoro 733
9 Salvarani 728
10 SemirS 719
11 Madrazo 715
12 Tobydawq 691
13 Shalgo 666
14 Scrool07 594
15 Northerner 553
16 Search 472
17 Leadbelly 469
18 AmisVelo 433
19 Laarsland 390
19 LosBrolin 390
21 Del1962 384
22 MellowVelo 368
23 Hakkie2 303
24 Glomser 299
24 Vladimir 299
26 Googolplex 276
27 Blues_in_the_Bottle 268
28 JustSomeGuy 266
29 BlackBandit222 260
30 Joelsim 243
31 Triley36 241
32 NorthAmericanScum 201
33 Kazistuta 197
CollectiveWisdom 902

Bretagne Ouest (GP Plouay) next up, on Tuesday week, by which time I should be sorting the first entries for the Tour de France game.
 
Rickaert only cost 23 points for those 130 that he earned today, and Eekhoff also turns a profit. De Bie breaks even, but for a cost of 5 points, that is a minor achievement.

And that should have been Laarsland and Hakkie that moved up 7 places in Hageland, not Search and Leadbelly. I'll blame that on my mind being on Evenepoel's condition as I typed it.

Spreadsheet
 
Rickaert only cost 23 points for those 130 that he earned today, and Eekhoff also turns a profit. De Bie breaks even, but for a cost of 5 points, that is a minor achievement.

And that should have been Laarsland and Hakkie that moved up 7 places in Hageland, not Search and Leadbelly. I'll blame that on my mind being on Evenepoel's condition as I typed it.

Spreadsheet
Is it really not until the sep 30 until the next race (after tomorrow)? Assuming no Worlds RR?
 
Race 10 Bretagne Classic Ouest France

Michael Matthews was probably a bit too expensive to pick, unless he gets a few other results, but Luka Mezgec in this race would have created a decent return had anyone gone for him. Instead, the point scoring riders today that we did pick are:
SENECHAL Florian 3rd, 112pts for 4 teams
SIMMONS Quinn 6th, 76pts for 21
EEKHOFF Nils 7th, 66, 7
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan 10th, 46 for Comodoro and Kazistuta
HAAS Nathan 19th, 17 1
THWAITES Scott 23rd, 13 2
VANMARCKE Sep 28th, 8 7
and another 17 scoring 5 each for reaching the finish line.

1= Laarsland (Senechal, Eekhoff and 2 fives), Vladimir(Senechal and Simmons 188 (65 green points each)
3 LosBrolin 147 (Simmons, Eekhoff and a fiver) (35)
4= Bminchow, Josedin 142 (Simmons and Eekhoff) (20)
6 Kazistuta 130 (Simmons, Garcia, Vanmarcke) (10)
7 MellowVelo 129 (Senechal and Haas) (5)
8 Northerner 117 (3)
9 Madrazo 102 (2)
10 Tobydawq 94 (1)
11= Scrool07, Search 89
13 Zaka_Fan 86
14= SemirS, Triley36 84
16 Armchair, BlackBandit222, JustSomeGuy, Leadbelly, NorthAmericanScum, Otoxiep87 81
22= AmisVelo, Blues_in_the_Bottle, Joelsim, RoteLaterne, Shalgo 76
27 Del1962 71
28 Comodoro 46
29 DJSprtsch 25
30 Googolplex 8
31= Glomser, Hakkie, Salvarani 5
CollectiveWisdom 76


Green points
The two teams who shared top scores today are modestly placed in the main competition, but both appear on the podium in the minor award.

1 Josedin 155.38
2 Laarsland 154.59
3 Vladimir 150.5
4 Comodoro 130
4 Search 130
6 Northerner 128
7 Armchair 126
8 Bminchow 125.09
9 Otoxiep87 120.38
10 JustSomeGuy 98.56


Standings
Of those who were in the top ten after the last race, only the top two got anything other than Simmons (the most popular pick in the game) and one or two fivers, and they matched each other exactly, so the gap between them is the same, and their margin over the rest of the field increases. Tobydawq came 10th on the day and moves up to 10th overall, but Madrazo makes a more impressive burst into the ten, up 5 places to a share of 6th. But not quite the jump of the day: Koronin moves up 6 (to 6th from bottom)

1 Josedin 1076
2 Bminchow 1065
3 Otoxiep87 923
4 Zaka_Fan 910
5 Armchair 908
6 Madrazo 817
6 RoteLaterne 817
8 SemirS 803
9 DJSprtsch 791
10 Tobydawq 785
11 Comodoro 779
12 Shalgo 742
13 Salvarani 733
14 Scrool07 683
15 Northerner 670
16 Laarsland 578
17 Search 561
18 Leadbelly 550
19 LosBrolin 537
20 AmisVelo 509
21 MellowVelo 497
22 Vladimir 487
23 Del1962 455
24 JustSomeGuy 347
25 Blues_in_the_Bottle 344
26 BlackBandit222 341
27 Kazistuta 327
28 Triley36 325
29 Joelsim 319
30 Hakkie2 308
31 Glomser 304
32 Googolplex 284
33 NorthAmericanScum 282
CollectiveWisdom 978


The next two events (Eurometropole and GP de Wallonie) have been cancelled, and the one after that is uncertain at best (the World Championships). So I'm not sure now long these numbers remain the status quo. From my point of view, I guess it saves me trying to do updates on this during the Tour de France, because I'll be busy each evening during that with updates of that game, so don't forget to get your entry in on that one: the thread will be near this somewhere.
 
Race 11 World Championship (it would have been race 13, but we lost Eurometropole and GP Wallonie

This is on a bigger scale of points than any of the other races. But that is mitigated by no-one choosing the winner. But here are those that we did pick:

VAN AERT Wout 2nd 240 points for 14 teams
HIRSCHI Marc 3rd 210pts for Joelsim
KWIATKOWSKI Michal 4th 180 6 teams
SCHACHMANN Maximilian 9th 96 for Search
GESCHKE Simon 17th 30 2
BETTIOL Alberto 18th 27 4
and only 4 of the 58 riders who finished outside the top 30, which is a shame as they are worth twice as many points here as in a WT race (10 points)


1 Armchair 420 (Van Aert and Kwiatkowski) 80 green points
2 Search 306 (Kwiatkowski, Schachmann, Geschke) 50
3= Comodoro, Josedin 267 (Van Aert and Bettiol) 30
5 Otoxiep87 260(Van Aert and 2 tens) 15
6= Salvarani, Shalgo 250 (Van Aert and a ten) 7.5
8= Bminchow, DJSprtsch, Madrazo, RoteLaterne, Scrool07, SemirS, Tobydawq, Zaka_Fan 240 (Van Aert) 0.75
16 Joelsim 210
17 Hakkie2 190
18= Del1962, Glomser, NorthAmericanScum 180
21 BlackBandit222 37
22 MellowVelo 30
23 Northerner 27
24 Laarsland, Triley36 10
26 AmisVelo, Blues_in_the_Bottle, Googolplex, JustSomeGuy, Kazistuta, Leadbelly, LosBrolin, Vladimir 0
CollectiveWisdom 240

Green points
The same two riders that made Armchair today's top scorer did the same for him in Milan San Remo, and with two daily wins, he moves to the top of the minor classification. The top 4 teams here were the top 4 today.

1 Armchair 206
2 Josedin 185.38
3 Search 180
4 Comodoro 160
5 Laarsland 154.59
6 Vladimir 150.5
7 Otoxiep87 135.38
8 Northerner 128
9 Bminchow 125.84
10 JustSomeGuy 98.56


Standings

Some closely clustered scores at the top: Josedin retains the lead, while Armchair rises from fifth to second. Comodoro breaks into the top ten, and Joelsim makes an 8 place rise.

1 Josedin 1343
2 Armchair 1328
3 Bminchow 1305
4 Otoxiep87 1183
5 Zaka_Fan 1150
6 Madrazo 1057
6 RoteLaterne 1057
8 Comodoro 1046
9 SemirS 1043
10 DJSprtsch 1031
11 Tobydawq 1025
12 Shalgo 992
13 Salvarani 983
14 Scrool07 923
15 Search 867
16 Northerner 697
17 Del1962 635
18 Laarsland 588
19 Leadbelly 550
20 LosBrolin 537
21 Joelsim 529
22 MellowVelo 527
23 AmisVelo 509
24 Hakkie2 498
25 Vladimir 487
26 Glomser 484
27 NorthAmericanScum 462
28 BlackBandit222 378
29 JustSomeGuy 347
30 Blues_in_the_Bottle 344
31 Triley36 335
32 Kazistuta 327
33 Googolplex 284
CollectiveWisdom 1218


After nearly 5 weeks with no race (well, not much by this year's standards), we are back again on Wednesday for Fleche Wallonne, and probably to again rue not selecting Alaphilippe.

And by then, you might have looked into your Giro team.
 
Race 11 World Championship (it would have been race 13, but we lost Eurometropole and GP Wallonie

This is on a bigger scale of points than any of the other races. But that is mitigated by no-one choosing the winner. But here are those that we did pick:

VAN AERT Wout 2nd 240 points for 14 teams
HIRSCHI Marc 3rd 210pts for Joelsim
KWIATKOWSKI Michal 4th 180 6 teams
SCHACHMANN Maximilian 9th 96 for Search
GESCHKE Simon 17th 30 2
BETTIOL Alberto 18th 27 4
and only 4 of the 58 riders who finished outside the top 30, which is a shame as they are worth twice as many points here as in a WT race (10 points)


1 Armchair 420 (Van Aert and Kwiatkowski) 80 green points
2 Search 306 (Kwiatkowski, Schachmann, Geschke) 50
3= Comodoro, Josedin 267 (Van Aert and Bettiol) 30
5 Otoxiep87 260(Van Aert and 2 tens) 15
6= Salvarani, Shalgo 250 (Van Aert and a ten) 7.5
8= Bminchow, DJSprtsch, Madrazo, RoteLaterne, Scrool07, SemirS, Tobydawq, Zaka_Fan 240 (Van Aert) 0.75
16 Joelsim 210
17 Hakkie2 190
18= Del1962, Glomser, NorthAmericanScum 180
21 BlackBandit222 37
22 MellowVelo 30
23 Northerner 27
24 Laarsland, Triley36 10
26 AmisVelo, Blues_in_the_Bottle, Googolplex, JustSomeGuy, Kazistuta, Leadbelly, LosBrolin, Vladimir 0
CollectiveWisdom 240

Green points
The same two riders that made Armchair today's top scorer did the same for him in Milan San Remo, and with two daily wins, he moves to the top of the minor classification. The top 4 teams here were the top 4 today.

1 Armchair 206
2 Josedin 185.38
3 Search 180
4 Comodoro 160
5 Laarsland 154.59
6 Vladimir 150.5
7 Otoxiep87 135.38
8 Northerner 128
9 Bminchow 125.84
10 JustSomeGuy 98.56


Standings

Some closely clustered scores at the top: Josedin retains the lead, while Armchair rises from fifth to second. Comodoro breaks into the top ten, and Joelsim makes an 8 place rise.

1 Josedin 1343
2 Armchair 1328
3 Bminchow 1305
4 Otoxiep87 1183
5 Zaka_Fan 1150
6 Madrazo 1057
6 RoteLaterne 1057
8 Comodoro 1046
9 SemirS 1043
10 DJSprtsch 1031
11 Tobydawq 1025
12 Shalgo 992
13 Salvarani 983
14 Scrool07 923
15 Search 867
16 Northerner 697
17 Del1962 635
18 Laarsland 588
19 Leadbelly 550
20 LosBrolin 537
21 Joelsim 529
22 MellowVelo 527
23 AmisVelo 509
24 Hakkie2 498
25 Vladimir 487
26 Glomser 484
27 NorthAmericanScum 462
28 BlackBandit222 378
29 JustSomeGuy 347
30 Blues_in_the_Bottle 344
31 Triley36 335
32 Kazistuta 327
33 Googolplex 284
CollectiveWisdom 1218


After nearly 5 weeks with no race (well, not much by this year's standards), we are back again on Wednesday for Fleche Wallonne, and probably to again rue not selecting Alaphilippe.

And by then, you might have looked into your Giro team.
Nice job Armchair. Bumping me down one. Looks like Alaphilippe will not grace us with his presence on wednesday, so someone else has a shot.
 
Race 12 Fleche Wallonne

The balance of teams is usually heavily weighted towards the cobbles, and away from the hillier classics. Usually, that means scoring tails off, but this year it may mean a late boost for some teams.

But those who we did pick:

HIRSCHI Marc 1st 220pts for Joelsim
MARTIN Daniel 5th, 86 for Kazistuta
KWIATKOWSKI Michal 6th 76pts 6 teams
GESCHKE Simon 10th 46 2 teams
VANENDERT Jelle 12th 35 3
BAGIOLI Andrea 19th 17 3
GASPAROTTO Enrico 30th 6 3
and another 19 riders (including Quinn Simmons, the most popular pick in the game) who were among the 143 finishers, each getting 5 points.

1 Joelsim 230 (Hirschi and 2 fives) 80 green points
2 Search 132 (Kwiatkowski, Geschke and 2 fives) 50
3 Hakkie2 117 (Kwiatkowski, Vanendert, Gasparotto) 35
4 Kazistuta 91 (Martin and one fiver) 25
5 NorthAmericanScum 86 (Kwiatkowski and 2 5ers) 15
6= Armchair, Glomser 81(Kwiatkowski and 1 5er) 7.5 each
8 Del1962 76(Kwiatkowski) 3
9 MellowVelo 51 2
10 Vladimir 50 1
11 Madrazo 45
12 Shalgo 27
13= Laarsland, Salvarani 22
15 BlackBandit222 21
16 JustSomeGuy 20
17 Otoxiep87 16
18 Blues_in_the_Bottle 15
19= LosBrolin, RoteLaterne, Scrool07 10
22 AmisVelo, Bminchow, Comodoro, Googolplex, Josedin, Leadbelly, Northerner, SemirS, Tobydawq, Triley36, Zaka_Fan 5
33 DJSprtsch 0
CollectiveWisdom 5

Green points
Search seems to either do very well in a race (his has been the top team on one race and the second three times) or has a very mediocre showing (he has never been 3rd to 10th), but that is what the green jersey is meant to celebrate. Hakkie peeps into the ten.
1 Search 230
2 Armchair 213.5
3 Josedin 185.38
4 Comodoro 160
5 Laarsland 154.59
6 Vladimir 151.5
7 Otoxiep87 135.38
8 Northerner 128
9 Bminchow 125.84
10 Hakkie2 122.56


Standings

Of the top ten scorers in this race, only one (Armchair) was higher than 15th overall. I get to celebrate that with a step up from 2nd to the top. No other positive changes in the top ten, and Joelsim and Hakkie each manage to rise 5 places.

Armchair 1409 1
Josedin 1348 -1
Bminchow 1310 0
Otoxiep87 1199 0
Zaka_Fan 1155 0
Madrazo 1102 0
RoteLaterne 1067 -1
Comodoro 1051 0
SemirS 1048 0
DJSprtsch 1031 0
Tobydawq 1030 0
Shalgo 1019 0
Salvarani 1005 0
Search 999 1
Scrool07 933 -1
Joelsim 759 5
Del1962 711 0
Northerner 702 -2
Hakkie2 615 5
Laarsland 610 -2
MellowVelo 578 1
Glomser 565 4
Leadbelly 555 -4
NorthAmericanScum 548 3
LosBrolin 547 -5
Vladimir 537 -1
AmisVelo 514 -4
Kazistuta 418 4
BlackBandit222 399 -1
JustSomeGuy 367 -1
Blues_in_the_Bottle 359 -1
Triley36 340 -1
Googolplex 289 0
CollectiveWisdom 1223



Liege-Bastogne-Liege (usually the last event in this game) is on Sunday, but don't forget to get your Giro game teams to me before that.

Names and numbers
 
Blast. I've just realised that due to CQ's odd way of dealing with Michael Valgren's change of surname (they don't put the pre-marriage surname of women in brackets!) I did not give credit to Del1962, Hakkie, Rote Laterne, Tobydawq and Vladimir credit for his 11th place (64 points) in the World Championship.

That makes the World Championship race the biggest contributor of points to the game.

Corrected top ten scores for that race
1 Armchair 420
2 Search 306
3 RoteLaterne 304
3 Tobydawq 304
5 Comodoro 267
5 Josedin 267
7 Otoxiep87 260
8 Hakkie2 254
9 Salvarani 250
9 Shalgo 250




Corrected total green points

1 Search 230
2 Armchair 213.5
3 Josedin 167.88
4 Laarsland 154.59
5 Vladimir 151.5
6 Comodoro 142.5
7 Northerner 128
8 Hakkie2 125.56
9 Otoxiep87 125.38
10 Bminchow 125.09


Corrected Standings

1 Armchair 1409
2 Josedin 1348
3 Bminchow 1310
4 Otoxiep87 1199
5 Zaka_Fan 1155
6 RoteLaterne 1131
7 Madrazo 1102
8 Tobydawq 1094
9 Comodoro 1051
10 SemirS 1048
11 DJSprtsch 1031
12 Shalgo 1019
13 Salvarani 1005
14 Search 999
15 Scrool07 933
16 Del1962 775
17 Joelsim 759
18 Northerner 702
19 Hakkie2 679
20 Laarsland 610
21 Vladimir 601
22 MellowVelo 578
23 Glomser 565
24 Leadbelly 555
25 NorthAmericanScum 548
26 LosBrolin 547
27 AmisVelo 514
28 Kazistuta 418
29 BlackBandit222 399
30 JustSomeGuy 367
31 Blues_in_the_Bottle 359
32 Triley36 340
33 Googolplex 289
CollectiveWisdom 1223
 
Race 13 Liege-Bastogne-Liege and a crazy finish.

As usual, the Ardennes doesn't see too many high scorers: these guys usually get too many points in their price from races that are not part of the classics series to be thought a good investment in the game.

Riderpositionpointsteams
HIRSCHI Marc2nd
170​
1​
VAN DER POEL Mathieu6th
100​
9​
KWIATKOWSKI Michal10th
62​
6​
MARTIN Daniel11th
54​
1​
VANENDERT Jelle23rd
18​
3​
TEUNS Dylan27th
10​
3​
GESCHKE Simon30th
6​
2​
 
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