2020 Tokyo Olympics - road race course

[Koronin]

so to get into 6th, Germany basically needs to win all stages (with Ackermann in the sprints) as well as the GC (with Schachmann) in Guangxi, with Mas not finishing in the top ~10 overall.

The competition is not particularly strong, but this looks highly unlikely

Gaviria won stage 1, that makes Germany getting into 6th even less likely now.

 

[dusty red roads]

Landslides from typhoon Hagibis last week affected a section of the road race course.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/10/18/national/landslides-2020-tokyo-olympic-cycling-road-kanagawa/

The area hit is quite beautiful and hilly, I hope they can fix it up in time, or else they'll have to re-route. Unfortunately some people died in landslides in the general area when their houses got destroyed/covered (not sure if they were in the same spot as the ones affecting the road race).

The video is in Japanese but you can see the general area and part of the way through they show a map of the route highlighting the affected area - about 5km. Not sure if there's alternate roads nearby or it would require a totally different detour.

 

[Koronin]

Appears that Mas is racing well enough to ensure Spain gets the full number of riders for the Olympics.

 

[King Boonen]

I've not really followed the discussion, did they do anything about the disgraceful women's route or has it remained the same?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Nope, still as disgraceful as before.

 

[Koronin]

Unfortunately it's still as bad.

 

[Ruudz0r]

Anyone knows where to find which countries get two spots for the ITT and which ones get 1?

 

[Joelsim]

Olympic Quotas:

(RR/TT)

Belgium (5/2)
Colombia (5/1)
Spain (5/1)
France (5/1)
Italy (5/2)
Netherlands (5/1)

Australia (4/2)
Denmark (4/1)
Great Britain (4/2)
Germany (4/2)
Norway (4/1)
Slovenia (4/1)
Switzerland (4/2)

Austria (3/1)
Canada (3/1)
Czech Republic (3/1)
Ireland (3/1)
Kazakhstan (3/1)
Poland (3/1)
South Africa (3/1)
Russia (3/1)

Algeria (2/0)
Ecuador (2/1)
Eritrea (2/1)
Estonia (2/2)
Japan (2/0)
Latvia (2/0)
Luxembourg (2/0)
New Zealand (2/2)
Portugal (2/2)
Slovakia (2/1)
Turkey (2/0)
United States (2/2)

Argentina (1/0)
Azerbaijan (1/0)
Burkina Faso (1/0)
China (1/0)
Chinese Taipei (1/0)
Costa Rica (1/0)
Greece (1/0)
Guatemala (1/0) )
Hong Kong (1/0)
Hungary (1/0)
Iran (1/1)
Lithuania (1/0)
Morocco (1/0)
Mexico (1/0)
Namibia (1/0)
Panama (1/0)
Peru (1/0)
Romania (1/0)
Rwanda (1/0)
Ukraine (1/0)
Uzbekistan (1/0)
Venezuela (1/0)
Belarus (1/0)
Sweden (1/0)

 

[Sciatic]

National teams are now preparing new kits for the Tokyo road race events . . .

 

[Armchair cyclist]

i have never got my head around the rider numbers rules whereby we so often see the Olympic cycling having riders competing outside their specialisations. Surely the track disciplines and MTB have their own qualification criteria, with countries gaining their allocations in those events, just as road racing (mass start and TT) has its quotas, as above.

What is going on that we see (eg) trackies doing 50km at the back of the peloton before they consider they have done enough to justify their existence,? How is that to anyone's benefit?

 

[Asero831]

Well, 2021 it is..

 

[glassmoon]

Well, 2021 it is..

Hopefully...

 

[tobydawq]

Hopefully...

Oh, come on.

 

[Pantani_lives]

The Olympics won't be held in the "Olympic" year (divisible by four) for the first time since 1944...

 

[GVFTA]

The Olympics won't be held in the "Olympic" year (divisible by four) for the first time since 1944...

On the bright side, we will get a Summer/Winter double in a 6 month period.

 

[sir fly]

On the bright side, we will get a Summer/Winter double in a 6 month period.

As in the good old days...

The Olympics won't be held in the "Olympic" year (divisible by four) for the first time since 1944...

Leap Olympics.

 

[tobydawq]

Oh my.

The Olympics are now starting July 23rd, next year. The Tour finishes on the 25th. The men's road race is usually ridden on the first day, so the 24th.

I wonder if the Tour will have to be moved a week, which would be quite complicated I assume for the Danish organizers (everything is complicated at the moment, so perhaps it could be a comparatively easy fix) or if the Olympic road race could be moved to the middle or final weekend.

 

[BlueRoads]

It's so weird, as I understand it, everyone qualified keeps that qualification - which sounds fair, but could lead to surprising participants?

 

[Bonimenier]

Oh my.

The Olympics are now starting July 23rd, next year. The Tour finishes on the 25th. The men's road race is usually ridden on the first day, so the 24th.

I wonder if the Tour will have to be moved a week, which would be quite complicated I assume for the Danish organizers (everything is complicated at the moment, so perhaps it could be a comparatively easy fix) or if the Olympic road race could be moved to the middle or final weekend.

I don't feel like the IOC will change their usual calendar, so I hope the Tour will be a week earlier like usual in an Olympic year. It might be a bit complicated, but it should be doable to arrange that in a bit over a year.

 

[Asero831]

Belgium, Colombia, France, Italy, Netherlands, Spain have full 5 man team.
Slovenia, Germany, Australia, Denmark, GB, Norway and Switzerland have 4 each.

 

[Asero831]

Who will Colombia drop? Lopez, Uran, Bernal, Chavez, Martinez and Quintana.
My guess will be Quintana

 

[geisterhome]

Re:


I agree--the women's course is a travesty.

I think it could be a very selective course for a womens peleton. That first long ascent will eliminate most of the field and what looks like few bumps on the road towards the finish line will be an ideal battle ground for a spectacular finish. A womens race doesnt necessarily need 6km at over 10%.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Neither does a men's, but they get to do that, and all the pre-race talk will be about who survives over it. The gradient of that first ascent is weak and so its impact on the field will be attritional without giving opportunities to add to the race, whereas in the men's race there are multiple platforms for attacking. In recent years the women have shown time and again that when given a course that's interesting they provide interesting races, but in the last few years there has been an active movement to keep the most talked-about obstacles for the main event, the men's race, rendering much anticipated selling points of major championships off-limits to the women. Innsbruck had ascents which were for men only in both ITT and road race, Doha's section in the desert - the only selective part of the race - was for men only, and the Mount Fløyen ITT climb in Bergen was for men only too.

It is set against this backdrop that the backlash against the Olympics RR has taken place. Because yet again it's a course that is insulting and self-fulfilling. The UCI's own argument was "men do lots of hard races, so they can do a hard race, whereas women don't have a lot of hard races, so they don't need as hard a race". Which is particularly galling when coming from the same organisation that arranges the WWT and specifically marginalised all of those races which did include significant climbing, in favour of a homogenised race of rolling-to-hilly races that favour the same type of rider (and then wondering why the same names keep popping up at the top of the result sheet and there isn't the extent of specialisation that we see in the men's péloton).

 

[Netserk]

Do you all think it's likely that there will be showers on the course like in 2008?

 

[Asero831]

DSM not allowing Bardet to ride.
So Vockler will depend on Pinot and Gaudu.

 

[Pinot's goat]

DSM not allowing Bardet to ride.
So Vockler will depend on Pinot and Gaudu.

Cavanga, Martin, Paret-Peintre, Gaudu and Barguil/Champoussin. I don't think Pinot will be fit.