By the mid nineties things were already changing. That was like the transition period to me. Teams got very expensive in the nineties.I was talking 1990s to mid 2000s
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By the mid nineties things were already changing. That was like the transition period to me. Teams got very expensive in the nineties.I was talking 1990s to mid 2000s
To be postponed again. This will probably kill another races in the process.
Doubt it will be postponed - The TDF falls within the parameters of the Government regulations, if ASO limits the number of spectators to less than 5000 as like PN - My take is that it is more likely the TDF will go ahead - Any races in 2020 will be in closed stadiums.
they could do "behind closed doors" or what that means for the first 3 stage (Aug 29-30-31) and from Sept 1st not so strict, as the decree allows from Sept 1st
Yes, back when he was young, stupid and arrogant. Hopefully, since that time, somebody has slapped him in the face, and told him what's what."Tour de France director Christian Prudhomme has already ruled out holding the race without crowds, or 'behind closed doors'. "
Yes, back when he was young, stupid and arrogant. Hopefully, since that time, somebody has slapped him in the face, and told him what's what.
It was an extremely dumb thing to do. Now he'll have to eat crow and own his stupidity, or be stubborn and cancel the race. Will be interesting to see.
Honestly, to me it felt like arrogance and ignorance. Like "Tour de France doesn't bow to corona, corona bows to Tour de France" mentality. He could simply have said, that they are working hard to get the show on the road, and are considering all options, even without crowds if all else fails, but that even that is no guarantee.Harsh, but funny.
Well, maybe he did not want to give it away already, so that people then would say "you said it's possible, so what's the deal?" Maybe it was kind of a "basis for negotiation".
Honestly, to me it felt like arrogance and ignorance. Like "Tour de France doesn't bow to corona, corona bows to Tour de France" mentality. He could simply have said, that they are working hard to get the show on the road, and are considering all options, even without crowds if all else fails, but that even that is no guarantee.
Exactly. I added to my previous post. There are hundreds of riders, dozens of teams, eager to ride the race. All these sponsors... they don't really care about those 100.000 people on the side of the road, who can't really see anything. They care about getting their logo on TV, with commentators mentioning their brand, in front of millions of people who are watching TV.Besides… it's not as if crowds is the only way for the race to "reach" the public...
But, yeah! Definitely arrogant, especially the "well, if we can't do like we normally do, then we'll just not do it!" mentality. Well… nothing is like it normally is, and as I've seen multiple people point out; teams might need the Tour to survive.
I think without crowds it is possible to hold the TDF, like i said in the dedicated corona threads. If they cut all the press people, and have riders do interviews over skype-ish solutions. Don't hold podium ceremonies, no starting ceremonies, reduce the crew each team can bring... If they test all the riders and crew and have them go into quarantine before and after the event. This line of thinking is what they should have been following. Not "We're the TDF, corona will move for us".
"Tour de France director Christian Prudhomme has already ruled out holding the race without crowds, or 'behind closed doors'. "
I do not find the reasons for the State of France to make its roads and its police available to a private company (ASO) for free, and also ignore the health of citizens only and exclusively for that private company to earn more money.
I do not find the reasons for the State of France to make its roads and its police available to a private company (ASO) for free, and also ignore the health of citizens only and exclusively for that private company to earn more money.
It's to sell their cheese.
I heard some of the hotels and restaurants in France don't care about cycling. They do care about the Tour de France. It brings them money. I know they like soccer better.I live in Aragón (Spain), Some friends of mine don't like cycling, but when we go to France they buy cheese.
Some of them know Bernard Hinault but all of them know Zinedine Zidane.
I also have a few French friends and hardly any of them like cycling, and the TdF doesn't care.
There is life beyond the geeks of a cycling forum
I live in Aragón (Spain), Some friends of mine don't like cycling, but when we go to France they buy cheese.
Some of them know Bernard Hinault but all of them know Zinedine Zidane.
I also have a few French friends and hardly any of them like cycling, and the TdF doesn't care.
There is life beyond the geeks of a cycling forum
Because TDF is completely irrelevant to France getting millions of tourists each year.I do not find the reasons for the State of France to make its roads and its police available to a private company (ASO) for free, and also ignore the health of citizens only and exclusively for that private company to earn more money.
Because TDF is completely irrelevant to France getting millions of tourists each year.
The TdF is the heritage of the French people, not of the private company ASO, the French government must seek the best for the French nation, not for the pocket of the owners of the private company ASO.
Therefore it is not Macron who must kneel before the "Proudman", but the "Proudman" who must kneel before Macron.