2021 Giro Route Rumours

[rghysens]

The third weekend is the seconds hardest stage and the TT.

That's the 4th weekend

 

[gregrowlerson]

What an utter piece of ***. GT cycling is finally dead. I am out. That is it. Congrats to all of you who advocated for this. You won, You have destroyed what we loved. Thank you and goodbye. This is the end. The curtain has fallen.

You never let us down mate

 

[Escarabajo]

That's the 4th weekend

Ooops. Ok, thanks.
So he meant the Zoncolan stage. That Monday there is no rest so that's why they put Cortina stage in there and a neutral stage on Sunday to avoid killing the riders.

 

[Mayomaniac]

The final climb on the Sestola stage (stage 4) is 4km at 10%, that's a hard shorter climb.

 

[tobydawq]

Corsetta-Fedaia-Pordoi- Giau, it's happening!

I hear there will be a blizzard in the Dolomites that day.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

The third weekend is the seconds hardest stage and the TT.

That's the fourth weekend.

 

[WKA311]

I hear there will be a blizzard in the Dolomites that day.

The blizzard that is caused when mighty Emu Buchmann attacks everyone on Fedaia (FEDAIAAAAA!!!!), channels his inner Coppi, gains minutes and only a few days later becomes the new german cycling darling clattered in pink. It is known.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I have two words for you.

Fedaia. FEDAIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Tonton]

I like it, will like it for the first18-19 stages, and may hate it on stage 20...

 

[Jan the Man]

Don't mind the route. A couple of really exciting stages.

I don't think it necessarily needed another ITT but adding another 15-20km or so to the existing ITTs (maybe making the first one circa 15km and the second just over 40km) would have balanced the route a little more as although there are not maybe as many of the famous passes other than stage 16 there is still a lot of climbing in general.

 

[OlavEH]

Looks okay, but still a bit disappointing:

+ ++ The sterrato stage looks great
++ Fedaia and Giau in the same stage (and it's long)
+The Madesimo stage is good and using high mountains rarely used.
+Sega di Ala is at least okay, and they are crossisng Monte Baldo in that stage.
+I actually like that side of Zoncolan better than the Ovaro side. The latter is actually too steep.

-It could be a bit more ITT and/or placed differently.
-Staulanza could have been added in tha Cortina stage. And Bondone/Santa Barbara in the Sega di Ala stage.
-- Too few/bad medium mountain and hilly stages. and the Bagno di Romana stage is really disappointing after the rumours that were posted here in the forum.
-- It's too backloaded. Although there are several hilly/mountain finished the first half, the 5 toughest stages are in the last 8 days.
--- There are only one mountain stage where long range attacks are probable.

Edit: I actually noticed now that they ascend Passo di San Valentino from Avio and descend to Chizzola. That is completely backwards. Why do they do that? Is the road down to Avio too dangerous to descend? If they ascended Mori from north it would have been at least 15-20 km shorter and it would been much easier to add another climb.

 

[barmaher]

The only hole in the route is ITT km. As mentioned above, another 25km and I am happy. Otherwise it is a great route. I can't wait.

 

[Netserk]

I see now that Crosetta is from Anzano and not from Sarone - a minor difference, but the latter would be more natural. And Fedaia is by the new road (as expected) and not via Serrai di Sottoguda. And Grado - Gorizia would be a great ITT (as suggested here), some real '15 vibes.

 

[Red Rick]

Sadly I think the patch team really overnerfed the Zoncolan. I had my sides mixed up. Though Sutrio was the middle one.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Sadly I think the patch team really overnerfed the Zoncolan. I had my sides mixed up. Though Sutrio was the middle one.

This side is really more of a Vuelta climb, a train setting a really high pace until 3km to go where there really steep slopes start.

They could ridden through Sutrio to reach Priola and do the climb from that side for the first time.

 

[Red Rick]

This side is really more of a Vuelta climb, a train setting a really high pace until 3km to go where there really steep slopes start.

They could ridden through Sutrio to reach Priola and do the climb from that side for the first time.

Yeah Zoncolan from Sutrio is really "we have Gamoniteiro at home"

 

[SafeBet]

It's still a damn good climb.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Yeah Zoncolan from Sutrio is really "we have Gamoniteiro at home"

Yeah, but I kinda understand that they don't always want to use the same side. Still, this time adding the Passo Duron right before it would have made sense, 4.2km at 10.1% and pretty much no flat right after the descent would have made this one a lot harder. On a normal Zoncolan stage you never get a high pace on that climb because you still have the much easier Sella Valcalda before the Zoncolan, but if you use the Sutrio side you could actually add something to the stage.
In the end I still don't mind it because we have other mountain stages where you can attack from further out.
Stage 4 shouldn't be underestimated, the final climb up to Sestola is 4km at 10%.

 

[ice&fire]

Yeah Zoncolan from Sutrio is really "we have Gamoniteiro at home"

Gamoniteiro has 5km @ 11% in the first half that I don't see in Zoncolan from Sutrio. This is more like the rightfully forgotten Bola del Mundo.

 

[OlavEH]

It's still a damn good climb.

Yep, but this version of the Giro contains too many of these climbs/stages to be an optimal route. The route would have better if they substituted the Alpe di Mera stage with the previously rumoured Cuneo- Cuneo stage. And in addtition made the Bagno di Romana stage as tough that was rumoured a couple of weeks ago.

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[Escarabajo]

I don't like the Zoncolan from the steep side. It turns the race into a survival mode.

 

[OlavEH]

I don't like the Zoncolan from the steep side. It turns the race into a survival mode.

Agreed! It's just too ridiculously steep. Almost 6 km of 15 % is just too much. Zoncolan is far from being one of the best climbs IMO.

 

[Red Rick]

Agreed! It's just too ridiculously steep. Almost 6 km of 15 % is just too much. Zoncolan is far from being one of the best climbs IMO.

How far CN has come


Surely it's better than the Sutrio side where the chances of waiting for the final 2/3km is too damn high.

 

[OlavEH]

How far CN has come

Surely it's better than the Sutrio side where the chances of waiting for the final 2/3km is too damn high.

Nah, perhaps. It's still far from being one of my favorites. Mortirolo and Finestre are much better. Stelvio, Fauniera and Giau also. Perhaps Colle San Carlo, Fedaia, etc.

 

[Gigs_98]

I really don't get the people preferring this Zoncolan side over the usual one. The average gradient isn't as steep but the final three kilometres , where all the differences are gonna be made, are so you are not gonna get a different kind of racing, just less of it.