Giro d'Italia 2022 Giro d'Italia: Stage-by-stage Analysis

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The only stage disappointing is 12, otherwise this is a solid route.

#18 should really be 240k at least . But apart from that, I agree, yeah. Looks like a pretty nice route.

Thanks for the great preview, Eshnar! I'll even manage to be around for a couple of early days this time

 

[Netserk]

To what degree is Salò nowadays associated with fascism and Mussolini? Or am I the only one thinking that with the year in mind?

 

[46&twoWheels]

To what degree is Salò nowadays associated with fascism and Mussolini? Or am I the only one thinking that with the year in mind?

100% unfortunately for them. Repubblica di Salò is easier and more colloquial than RSI. Actually even saying only "Salò" is enough. It's like those complicated cycling teams that become famous with the first name ...

 

[Jungle Cycle]

When the Grande Partenza from Budapest was unveiled, back in 2019, the world was a very different place. Even the Grande Partenza itself was different, as it was planned to start with an ITT in Budapest, which has now been moved to stage 2. Regardless, after two years it seems we will finally manage to go to Hungary, and then have a rest day to get to Sicily. From there, I can only describe the overall route as very disappointing. There are some good stages here and there of course, as I believe it is statistically impossible to design 21 consecutive bad Giro stages, but this is definitely the wrong direction, especially after an already mediocre route in 2021, coming from two pretty good ones. A shame. It seems more and more that what really governs the Giro are the whims of whichever politician/local administrator is willing to pay for a stage, and the organizers are there only to connect point A with point B on the map. Sometimes they mess up even that, as two stages have been entirely redesigned after the presentation to an extent that makes you doubt if the originally presented version was ever really considered feasible at all, or if it was just a placeholder. Moreover, the climbs categorization has by now reached a level of nonsense that shouldn’t even be possible. In any case, the biggest problem of this route is obviously the lack of time trialling, with the lowest amount of TTing km in recent times, as well as the insufficient length of most stages, and their overall quality as well, even if as I said there are a few really good ones. Whatever. Luckily (or, well, sadly) this is absolutely not the worst GT route of this year so let’s hope we are going to get a good spectacle. The field seems to be pretty good and there is more than enough terrain to put on a show. Hopefully the riders want to race this year and we actually see the Fedaia…

BEST thread os the year!!
days of reading material..
thank's 1 more time..

 

[Escarabajo]

We are going overboard a little bit with the criticism of the route. Maybe because we have been used to a true queen stage that maybe is not happening now. Additionally, the TT kilometers are too low and some don't like that. Having said that, if you look at the last week it is really murderous. Maybe individually there is not a single queen stage but together it looks very hard. We'll see.

 

[Gigs_98]

That four stage stretch from stage 10 to 13...my god.
Well...here's hoping the riders make the race?

 

[Netserk]

We are going overboard a little bit with the criticism of the route. Maybe because we have been used to a true queen stage that maybe is not happening now. Additionally, the TT kilometers are too low and some don't like that. Having said that, if you look at the last week it is really murderous. Maybe individually there is not a single queen stage but together it looks very hard. We'll see.

Do you think there is any recent Giro route that this one is better than, or is this just a complaint about the tone in the thread?

 

[Escarabajo]

Do you think there is any recent Giro route that this one is better than, or is this just a complaint about the tone in the thread?

Based on the opinions I remember, this one being the first one where there is some (or a lot) discontent about the route. I can maybe go to 8-9 years of memory at this moment.
The funny thing is that is some occasions the queen stages have been modified a lot in some of those editions just because of the weather. And the resulting stage was nowhere near what it was supposed to be. Like last year. The problem that I had with those editions is that the change of one single stage made a big difference on the route.

Having said that, if you look at this year the last segment from Saturday to Sunday there is only one flat stage. I know the previous 3-4 stages suck but the following stretch looks promising.

 

[sir fly]

That four stage stretch from stage 10 to 13...my god.
Well...here's hoping the riders make the race?

Make sure not to watch them and everything's gonna be just fine.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Do you think there is any recent Giro route that this one is better than, or is this just a complaint about the tone in the thread?

It's on a similar level as 2017, the only think that Giro had going for him were the Bormio stage and the amount of kms of ITT that forced the riders to attack on the mountain stages. Overall it reminds e a lot of the 2014 Giro.

 

[Red Rick]

It's on a similar level as 2017, the only think that Giro had going for him were the Bormio stage and the amount of kms of ITT that forced the riders to attack on the mountain stages. Overall it reminds e a lot of the 2014 Giro.

2015 Tour de France w/o cobbles and a worse queen stage.

 

[gregrowlerson]

2015 Tour de France w/o cobbles and a worse queen stage.

That was arguably an anti Froome course actually.

 

[Mayomaniac]

2015 Tour de France w/o cobbles and a worse queen stage.

Comparing a Giro route to a Tour route?

 

[Red Rick]

Comparing a Giro route to a Tour route?

Vueltas have comparatively respectible amounts of ITTs.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Vueltas have comparatively respectible amounts of ITTs.

Yeah, that's a fair point.

 

[topcat]

We are going overboard a little bit with the criticism of the route. Maybe because we have been used to a true queen stage that maybe is not happening now. Additionally, the TT kilometers are too low and some don't like that. Having said that, if you look at the last week it is really murderous. Maybe individually there is not a single queen stage but together it looks very hard. We'll see.

It's a perfect route for acting all superior on a forum and whinging like a ***.
I'm all tingly excited about the race. I'm confident it'll be the best gt of the year. A good field. An interesting dynamic with Carapaz as big favourite, everyone trying to take him down as opposed to him sneaking the win in 2019. Nibali to surprise and Valverde to not surprise anyone.

 

[tobydawq]

It's a perfect route for acting all superior on a forum and whinging like a ***.

All routes are perfect for that.

That said, I do agree that the amount of TT kilometres is too small here.

 

[Valv.Piti]

All routes are perfect for that.

That said, I do agree that the amount of TT kilometres is too small here.

Thats also really hard to argue against unless you absolutely despise TT's, isn't it?

All I can say is Im a tad disappointed reading some no-name climb in Slovenia is the hardest in Giro d' ITALIA. Not that they have too many options....

 

[Red Rick]

And every criticism can be put down to "look at them couch potatoes whining again".

This route hardly gets criticized for not being the 21 most favorite designs from the Stage Design thread. Most of the criticism are in fact really basic and warranted. And little is over the top.

 

[Eshnar]

All I can say is Im a tad disappointed reading some no-name climb in Slovenia is the hardest in Giro d' ITALIA. Not that they have too many options....

Did I... write that?
Pretty sure the hardest is Blockhaus.

 

[Netserk]

2015 Tour de France w/o cobbles and a worse queen stage.

Even worse, no echelon stage like in 2015.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Did I... write that?
Pretty sure the hardest is Blockhaus.

Yes. Well, I read it a couple of days ago, so I might be completely off, lemme go check it..

" Here they will start the biggest climb of the day, perhaps the hardest of the whole race: Kolovrat (GPM1, 10.3 km at 9.2%)"

 

[Eshnar]

Yes. Well, I read it a couple of days ago, so I might be completely off, lemme go check it..

" Here they will start the biggest climb of the day, perhaps the hardest of the whole race: Kolovrat (GPM1, 10.3 km at 9.2%)"

alright I did write "perhaps"
For Blockhaus I wrote that it has a strong case for being the hardest...
That's what I get for not writing the whole preview in one day.
The Blockhaus is the hardest. Kolovrat second.

 

[Netserk]

According to cyclingcols (not taking distribution of gradients and altitude into account):

Score of Kolovrat: 909

Score of Blockhaus: 1500

Score of Santa Cristina: 920

Score of Croce Domini: 963

 

[Valv.Piti]

Those scores cannot be used for anything IMO. Were not going to the top of Blockhaus