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The german media has a Tour feature with Geschke and Waldscheid appearing in it. walscheid isn't on the start list yet, but I think with this week one it might be smart by cofidis to take him.

Also in an article about the new contract it was mentioned again that Kämna is still an option for the Tour. Which would be great for the race I guess.
 
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Pogačar's neighbor said:
bwin sport bets:

Tadej Pogacar1,75
Jonas Vingegaard4,75
Primoz Roglic4,75
Geraint Thomas17
Alexander Vlasov17
Daniel Martinez19
Adam Yates34
Enric Mas Nicolau34
Jakob Fuglsang34
Mikel Landa67
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I checked two other sites where I usually check the odds and they have Vlasov way lower than that. Both sites had Martinez after Vingo, but they were close with Thomas so it really doesn't matter. And yes they usually put riders that are not even listed to ride the Tour de France. LOL.
 
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The top 5 of favourites is pretty obvious:
  • Pogacar
  • Roglic
  • Vingegaard
  • Vlasov
  • Thomas
After that it becomes much harder, because everybody seems be injured or recovering from illness. At the moment I'd say something like this:
  • Martinez
  • O'Connor
  • Caruso
  • Mas
  • Lopez
However there are twenty others who might make the bottom half of the top 10 if everything goes well. Several of them are French or Colombian. One or two super domestiques of the five favourites might also make the top 10, as a helper or as a reserve leader.
 
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Ineos line-up will be interesting. Thomas, Martinez, Yates will obviously look to form a 3 pronged attack, and Yates Covid recovery notwithstanding, will likely all be in good fettle. DvB and Ganna will clearly be the rouleurs and look in similarly good nick.

Thereafter, it doesn't look as simple. Ordinarily, you'd expect all-rounders / some climbing support, but who? Fraile didn't cover himself in glory in Suisse, and Pidcock went home early, not that he's a proven 3 week rider anyway. Question marks too over Kwiato after CdD, but you'd imagine with versatility and unfussiness he'll likely get him the nod. Tao looked better, but tailed off, and might be a better bet to continue his upwards curve towards La Vuelta. Hayter's inability to ride rowards the front is the last thing you need to be a helper at the Tour, and as has been pointed out, it doesn't look like his lavish talents extend to domestique duties. Castroviejo has just finished in Italy, although has backed up GTs before. Who else? De Plus looked good in France, but the Tour would be a big ask. Dunbar was deemed surplus to requirements for the Giro, and Rowe's days as a top domestique look done.

Whoever they go with, I think this could end up being their achilles heel.
 
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King Of The Wolds said:
Ineos line-up will be interesting. Thomas, Martinez, Yates will obviously look to form a 3 pronged attack, and Yates Covid recovery notwithstanding, will likely all be in good fettle. DvB and Ganna will clearly be the rouleurs and look in similarly good nick.

Thereafter, it doesn't look as simple. Ordinarily, you'd expect all-rounders / some climbing support, but who? Fraile didn't cover himself in glory in Suisse, and Pidcock went home early, not that he's a proven 3 week rider anyway. Question marks too over Kwiato after CdD, but you'd imagine with versatility and unfussiness he'll likely get him the nod. Tao looked better, but tailed off, and might be a better bet to continue his upwards curve towards La Vuelta. Hayter's inability to ride rowards the front is the last thing you need to be a helper at the Tour, and as has been pointed out, it doesn't look like his lavish talents extend to domestique duties. Castroviejo has just finished in Italy, although has backed up GTs before. Who else? De Plus looked good in France, but the Tour would be a big ask. Dunbar was deemed surplus to requirements for the Giro, and Rowe's days as a top domestique look done.

Whoever they go with, I think this could end up being their achilles heel.
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I think Thomas, Martinez and Yates are sure thing. Although I have heard some comments about Yates. I heard that he was taken to the Tour as an nsurance for Thomas, but now with Thomas performing very well INEOS might not be interested in taking three leaders to the race. But we'll see.

As for Ganna and DvB are a sure thing. I thing Kwiato is also a sure thing. He almost always come forward as a critical domestique in all terrains for INEOS. That leaves two more places for the team. Pidcock was showing some good performances is Switzerland until Covid took him out. But him being British and with the plan to develop him fast I would think that they would take him. The last spot is unknown but I would put the following riders in order of who will be taken by De Plus or Castro. I think it will go to De Plus who is doing some good performances.
 
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If Roglic manages to stay even inside 1 of Pogacar on Granon I will be extremely surprised. In Roglic's absolute peak he was probably the best climber, but hes a bit past his peak IMO and so hes still super explosive and great in timetrials, but I really doubt he stands a chance on the two hard Alpine MTFs against Pogacar. I'd bet on Vingegaard being better, while Roglic is better than Vingegaard in virtually every other aspect of cycling., but all in all without crashes or misfortunes, I cannot see Pogacar losing to these two riders.

Also get me Martinez and Mas every day of the week over Thomas. Mas has to be underrated after being great all year, but crashing in every important race so far. If he doesnt crash and hes fine after Dauphine, its a great top-3 shout
 
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Valv.Piti said:
If Roglic manages to stay even inside 1 of Pogacar on Granon I will be extremely surprised. In Roglic's absolute peak he was probably the best climber, but hes a bit past his peak IMO and so hes still super explosive and great in timetrials, but I really doubt he stands a chance on the two hard Alpine MTFs against Pogacar. I'd bet on Vingegaard being better, while Roglic is better than Vingegaard in virtually every other aspect of cycling., but all in all without crashes or misfortunes, I cannot see Pogacar losing to these two riders.

Also get me Martinez and Mas every day of the week over Thomas. Mas has to be underrated after being great all year, but crashing in every important race so far. If he doesnt crash and hes fine after Dauphine, its a great top-3 shout
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I agree with you said 100%. In addition, to make matters worse, from all the GC contenders that you mentioned, Pocagar is the best Classicomano. LOL. No chance. He might even eliminate his competition before they get to his favorite terrain.
 
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Pogačar's neighbor said:
bwin sport bets:

Tadej Pogacar1,75
Jonas Vingegaard4,75
Primoz Roglic4,75
Geraint Thomas17
Alexander Vlasov17
Daniel Martinez19
Adam Yates34
Enric Mas Nicolau34
Jakob Fuglsang34
Mikel Landa67
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Bookmakers often give bad value, but this is worse than normal. Everyone far too short except the Slovenians. Landa was announced a while ago to be doing the Vuelta instead (and should be triple those odds even if he was starting) Fuglsang as others have mentioned should probably be close to ten times those odds.

Probably 17 odds is realistic for any of the 8 Ineos riders to win.
 
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