Vuelta a España 2022 Vuelta a Espana Stage 2(s’Hertogenbosch- Utrecht), 175.1 Km Flat

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Are they though? PCS puts most of them in the same time.

They just changed it a few minutes ago. Vine basically the only one of that list that still loses time.

 

[titan31]

Are they though? PCS puts most of them in the same time.

They only changed it there. It took them ages to do so though.

 

[Netserk]

There were no gaps bigger than 3 seconds in the bunch. Easy to see that they would correct it later.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

There were no gaps bigger than 3 seconds in the bunch. Easy to see that they would correct it later.

How much later though? No idea why this has to take an hour and a half.

 

[Escarabajo]

Almost everyone in the same time:

La Vuelta ciclista a España 2022 Stage 2 results

La Vuelta ciclista a España 2022 Stage 2 from 's-Hertogenbosch to Utrecht was won by Sam Bennett before Mads Pedersen and Tim Merlier. Mike Teunissen was leading the general classification.

www.procyclingstats.com

 

[Danskebjerge]

4 sprint stages, stage 7 likely break, stage 13 and 16 uphill sprint.

It's as if the sprinter teams have all their focus on the Tour de France and forget there is a Vuelta too. The average sprinter would be able to gain more UCI points in Spain than in France.

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

It's as if the sprinter teams have all their focus on the Tour de France and forget there is a Vuelta too. The average sprinter would be able to gain more UCI points in Spain than in France.

I’m not disputing that?

 

[Netserk]

Almost everyone in the same time:

La Vuelta ciclista a España 2022 Stage 2 results

La Vuelta ciclista a España 2022 Stage 2 from 's-Hertogenbosch to Utrecht was won by Sam Bennett before Mads Pedersen and Tim Merlier. Mike Teunissen was leading the general classification.

www.procyclingstats.com

Go to the source. Tissot is the timekeeper for the Vuelta: https://www.tissottiming.com/2022/vue/en-us/default/Stage/2/Stage

 

[Netserk]

How much later though? No idea why this has to take an hour and a half.

Well, the way the rule is formulated (source) means that you cannot apply it automatically, like the usual rule of 1 second. It is not well defined when a split is within a group and when a split creates two groups. So you also need the commissaires to interpret it.

When is it a late attack, where only 1 second is enough to count, and when is it a split in the sprint (like MSR'09)? Stage 19 in the Tour was an excellent example. Which group was the biggest group? Depends on which riders you interpret to be part of the same group. Unfortunately, I can't find the full provisional results for that stage, before they applied the rule.

 

[Billie]

It's as if the sprinter teams have all their focus on the Tour de France and forget there is a Vuelta too. The average sprinter would be able to gain more UCI points in Spain than in France.

The average sprinter will be able to gain more UCI points tomorrow in Hamburg than in 21 days of Vuelta.

 

[Bonimenier]

Well, the way the rule is formulated (source) means that you cannot apply it automatically, like the usual rule of 1 second. It is not well defined when a split is within a group and when a split creates two groups. So you also need the commissaires to interpret it.

When is it a late attack, where only 1 second is enough to count, and when is it a split in the sprint (like MSR'09)? Stage 19 in the Tour was an excellent example. Which group was the biggest group? Depends on which riders you interpret to be part of the same group. Unfortunately, I can't find the full provisional results for that stage, before they applied the rule.

Not sure what's the relevance of that in this case. Took the average cycling follower 0 seconds to realise that wasn't the case, not 1,5 hours.

 

[Netserk]

Not sure what's the relevance of that in this case. Took the average cycling follower 0 seconds to realise that wasn't the case, not 1,5 hours.

Because even when it is simple and clear-cut, like today, it doesn't and cannot happen automatically.

 

[Bonimenier]

Because even when it is simple and clear-cut, like today, it doesn't and cannot happen automatically.

Still doesn't mean it has to take this long.

 

[Netserk]

Still doesn't mean it has to take this long.

Sure, they could have been faster (the official results were published 18:37). But it means that the 3-seconds rule will only appear in effect once they publish the official results, and to publish those you also have to use the 3 km rule, which can take a bit as well. The official results get published together with the full stage report (https://www.tissottiming.com/File/0003140111010102FFFFFFFFFFFFFF00), so everything has to be ready.

 

[Netserk]

Is it possible to find the locations of the litter/waste zones somewhere? Couldn't find them in the roadbook...

Unfortunately, I only noticed it after you needed the info, but it is in the stage report of the previous stage.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Congratulations to Sam Bennett for winning the stage and Mike Teunissen for taking the GC lead.

A typical sprinters stage but the finale was rather dramatic. A lot of changing of direction, narrow roads, road furniture ... and as a result some crashes too. I agree that other sprinters team should do a bit more work tomorrow.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1561097701286182919

View: https://twitter.com/Mads__Pedersen/status/1561097701286182919

 

[RedheadDane]

Did Van Den Berg get inspired by Cort's exploits in Denmark?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Did Van Den Berg get inspired by Cort's exploits in Denmark?

No, but his DS did.

https://sport.tv2.dk/cykling/2022-08-21-profil-fik-besked-paa-at-kopiere-cort