Vuelta a España 2022 Vuelta route rumors

[ice&fire]

Camargo - Cistierna. That would be stage 7, so stages 8 and 9 will be in Asturias.

La Vuelta regresa a León por Cistierna

La localidad de la Montaña Oriental entrará por tercera vez en su historia en el libro de ruta de la ronda ciclista en la edición de 2022 Tras dos inicios será el punto y final de una etapa que saldrá de Camargo

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The stage is said to be for the sprinters. Going from sea level to 1000m there's no way to avoid some climbing, but all options have a long flat section before the finish. The best would be San Glorio, and that's 60km from the finish.

We're lucky to skip La Camperona this year, though it is rumoured for 2023.

 

[Red Rick]

Camargo - Cistierna. That would be stage 7, so stages 8 and 9 will be in Asturias.

La Vuelta regresa a León por Cistierna

La localidad de la Montaña Oriental entrará por tercera vez en su historia en el libro de ruta de la ronda ciclista en la edición de 2022 Tras dos inicios será el punto y final de una etapa que saldrá de Camargo

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The stage is said to be for the sprinters. Going from sea level to 1000m there's no way to avoid some climbing, but all options have a long flat section before the finish. The best would be San Glorio, and that's 60km from the finish.

We're lucky to skip La Camperona this year, though it is rumoured for 2023.

San Glorio would surely prevent a full blown bunch sprint.

 

[ice&fire]

San Glorio would surely prevent a full blown bunch sprint.

San Glorio was done quite fast in its only appearance in 2014 and the main peloton was reduced to about 70 men IIRC. But that year they had the finish at La Camperona so sprinters had no incentive to chase.

 

[Red Rick]

San Glorio was done quite fast in its only appearance in 2014 and the main peloton was reduced to about 70 men IIRC. But that year they had the finish at La Camperona so sprinters had no incentive to chase.

But nobody had incentive to try and drop the sprinters anyway, so I don't really think it was done all that fast. Far easier climbs have been used recently to drop the sprinters than San Glorio. Col du Beal was drilled at 100km+ from the finish in the 2020 Tour, Portella Mandrazzi in the 2020 Giro.

Even this was too hard for the sprinters

If a stage with San Glorio at 60km is a full bunch sprints then DSes must be pelted with fruit

 

[ice&fire]

We're hot on rumours today.
Peñas Blancas MTF incoming, with departure from the province of Granada. Will they go back to Granada for the final party?

La Sierra Bermeja que arrasó el fuego recobrará vida gracias a la Vuelta a España 2022

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König won there in 2013 but Unipublic is assessing the possibility to use a recently re-paved road that adds 4km more of climbing until the mirador at 1300m asl.

The video in the link shows a desolated landscape of burned trees caused by the fire this summer.

 

[OlavEH]

We're hot on rumours today.
Peñas Blancas MTF incoming, with departure from the province of Granada. Will they go back to Granada for the final party?

Hope a last mountain stage in Granada will mean use of Hazallanas-Collado Sabinas and possibly a downhill finish? This climb and then a descent finish.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Hope a last mountain stage in Granada will mean use of Hazallanas-Collado Sabinas and possibly a downhill finish? This climb and then a descent finish.

Or an uphill finish here after Altto de Monachil from South, that would also be a really good stage. With Monachil to built fatigue and to get rid of most of the domestiques you can attack on Haza Llana.

 

[Red Rick]

Or an uphill finish here after Altto de Monachil from South, that would also be a really good stage. With Monachil to built fatigue and to get rid of most of the domestiques you can attack on Haza Llana.

Most preferred option to me would be Sabinas-Monachil in that order. Do Puerto de la Ragua before for leg sapping and breakaway establishment.

Basically that first lead up to Hazallanas is really good cause you can drill it there, the descent is technical and likely to split up a peloton so you can't afford to do your own pace and come back later, which means you can force riders to go beyond their ideal pace for a ~50 minute climb before the climb even starts, which is the #1 recipe for big gaps.

 

[OlavEH]

Or an uphill finish here after Altto de Monachil from South, that would also be a really good stage. With Monachil to built fatigue and to get rid of most of the domestiques you can attack on Haza Llana.

Monachil, then descend before climbing Hazallanas for a MTF at Sierra Nevada?

 

[Red Rick]

Monachil, then descend before climbing Hazallanas for a MTF at Sierra Nevada?

I think it would be pretty Vuelta-like to do something like this.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

(Ignore the brief bit of flat in the Haza Llanas climb, that's a tracking error where I clicked too close to an adjacent road, resulting in a short out-and-back on the route to return to the main climb)

 

[OlavEH]

I think it would be pretty Vuelta-like to do something like this.

Well, it would be one of the toughest mountain stages in the Vuelta. First 5 km with 11 % to Hazallanas, including a couple of kms at 12-13 %, followed by more than 15 km with 6-7 % to the normal finish at 2500m. And Monachil in addition before that. For Vuelta standard it would be pretty, pretty good.

 

[ice&fire]

No love for Collado del Alguacil?

 

[OlavEH]

No love for Collado del Alguacil?

Is that a rumuored climb? For a MTF?

 

[Mayomaniac]

(Ignore the brief bit of flat in the Haza Llanas climb, that's a tracking error where I clicked too close to an adjacent road, resulting in a short out-and-back on the route to return to the main climb)

I'd prefer a punchy uphill finish in Granada near the Alhambra, tbh.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Monachil, then descend before climbing Hazallanas for a MTF at Sierra Nevada?

Yes.

 

[ice&fire]

Is that a rumuored climb? For a MTF?

Not rumoured, but Unipublic is aware of it and the first 8.5km in the profile are common with Hazallana. Only that side of the climb is paved so MTF is the only option.

 

[Red Rick]

Not rumoured, but Unipublic is aware of it and the first 8.5km in the profile are common with Hazallana. Only that side of the climb is paved so MTF is the only option.

Maybe they can do a gravel descent surely that will get Ganna to come to La Vuelta instead of the Tour

 

[ice&fire]

Stage 4 (the first one on Spain's roads) confirmed in Alava, with finish likely in Laguardia.

La Vuelta apuesta por Rioja Alavesa

El territorio albergará la 4ª etapa de la ronda y todo apunta a que el final será en Laguardia

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Looks like a missed opportunity to have Puerto de Herrera somewhere close to the stage finish as Laguardia is close to the start of the climb on its hard side.

 

[ice&fire]

Trujillo - Piornal confirmed.

La Vuelta 22 tiene una llegada inédita en Piornal con salida desde Trujillo - Periódico LA ALDABA

Hervás, a 17 de noviembre de 2021. La 77ª edición de la ronda ciclista comenzará el 19 de agosto en Utrecht (Países Bajos) y culminará el 11 de septiembre en Madrid ■ La gala será televisada por Teledeporte, el 16 diciembre. Finalmente el Puerto de Honduras no se subirá debido a que el recorrido...

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Piornal is a 4-6% climb on every side. They'll do East side first and a short loop in the Jerte Valley to climb back the easiest of the West sides, 16km @ 5%. Riding the loop in opposite direction the climb would be 13km @ 5.6%. I'm probably splitting hairs here. It's a Montevergine anyway I look at it.

Lame. No Honduras because the stage would be too long, the report says. Half true. Trujillo - Honduras W - Piornal W is 180km, but Honduras W isn't much better than Piornal E. The more difficult Honduras E (13km @ 6.6%, including 5km @ 7.5%) takes the race away from the designated finish and requires a longer loop that places that climb too far from the finish.

I hope this to be somewhere in the second week but not in the weekend.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

No Arroyomolinos side of Piornal is such a waste, a MTF with no chance of decent GC action is no better than a sprint stage.

 

[ice&fire]

Looks like Les Praeres has a high chance to host one of the Asturian stage finishes together with Collado Fancuaya.

Collado Fancuaya apunta a final de etapa en la Vuelta Ciclista España de 2022

La organización piensa en estrenar el paraje de Yernes y Tameza y repetir en Les Praeres en la próxima carrera

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The 2018 stage to Les Praeres started in Cistierna. That's where they finish next year the day before they enter Asturias. It smells funny.

 

[Red Rick]

Looks like Les Praeres has a high chance to host one of the Asturian stage finishes together with Collado Fancuaya.

Collado Fancuaya apunta a final de etapa en la Vuelta Ciclista España de 2022

La organización piensa en estrenar el paraje de Yernes y Tameza y repetir en Les Praeres en la próxima carrera

www.lne.es

The 2018 stage to Les Praeres started in Cistierna. That's where they finish next year the day before they enter Asturias. It smells funny.

Smell that?


That's the smell of Rampas Inhumanas

 

[ice&fire]

The Basque Country will host two full stages and the departure of the stage to Pico Jano.
Stage 4: Vitoria - Laguardia
Stage 5: Irún - Bilbao
Stage 6: Bilbao - Pico Jano

Las tres provincias vascas estarán en La Vuelta 2022

La Vuelta viajará desde su inicio en Países Bajos hasta Euskadi, donde se desarrollarán dos jornadas y la salida de una tercera con final en Cantabria.

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No clues about stage routes.

 

[Gigs_98]

(Ignore the brief bit of flat in the Haza Llanas climb, that's a tracking error where I clicked too close to an adjacent road, resulting in a short out-and-back on the route to return to the main climb)

Yeah I also think that's about as good as it gets with the Sierra Nevada climbs. Some might prefer it without Cumbres Verdes as that climb is quite hard on it's own and might scare some people but I feel like Sierra Nevada kind of needs a climb after it. Even with the Haza Llanas route most attacks would still have to come on the 5-6% sections and that's a recipe for disappointment. Sierra Nevada is great for tactical moves and completely blowing up the peloton but not for an all out gc battle in a close race.