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2023-25 Emerging Riders CQ game

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Doesn't get much more boring than my team - I have a grand total of one rider (Baudin) picked less than 13 times, and of the 3 Collective Wisdom riders I'm missing (Brenner, Morgado, Syritsa), the former two are among the seven riders I was closest to picking. Kind of makes me regret not going for Gautherat, who was also on that list and would have been a unique pick.
 
I have my first rider in action today at the Vuelta al Tachira. < Jesus Goyo (2004) Venezuelan junior TT champion and winner of the queen stage up to La Grita in Vueta Juventud Venezuela.

Goyo should already lead his team GC ambitions this year along with another talent, David Mendoza, who had really poor 2022.

Also worth following Angelvis Arroyo from that team. Junior road-race champion in 2022 where he also won Clasico Ciudad de Valencia and Circuito Andino. Angelvis can handle the medium mountains and is lightning fast in a sprint - a very good talent, almost unbeatable sprinting-wise after a hard race. Only Arlex Mendez jr (HUGE talent) could go up against him last year, but Arlex is from 2005 and still a junior in 2023.

Favorite to take the title in Tachira gotta be Colombian Marco Tulio Suesca in my opinion - he is in crazy form, just won Vuelta a Costa Rica, and the other day he won Circuito Jenesano finish on the steep steep wall up to Alto de Rodríguez. He beat several ex-pros and with Superman Lopez finishing 4th.


View: https://www.facebook.com/siguiendolarueda/videos/552864643408498/
 
Popularity scoreUnique Picks
1Skidmark
472​
0
2Fivezzz
457​
0
3DevilsElbow
456​
0
4Armchair_Cyclist
448​
1
5Cordi
445​
0


Team similarity
The highest amount of overlap between 2 teams is 14, which happens between 13 pairs of teams.
The weird thing is that 8 of these 13 pairs include Skidmark: with Armchair Cyclist, Devil's Elbow, Fivezzz, Joelsim, Madrazo, Otoxiep87, SafeBet and Zipi Zapismo.

I am glad to learn that my team selection remains extremely on-brand, with first in the main game, 2nd in the Women's game, and first in this game for popularity.

It's so interesting - that has just always been how it is for my teams. But like, those three teams were created extremely differently. In the main game, I'm extremely rigorous - I make a long list of like 130 riders, I slowly go through various rounds of poking and prodding them from different angles (what's their team makeup and role? What kind of races are they riding? What are they/their coaches etc saying in interviews?), and revisit it multiple times until I can whittle it down to 33 eventually. But there's no real mystery or boutique quality to it - I don't ever think that I need a classics guy for balance or that I have too many riders of one nation or anything like that - I just want to pick the collection of individual riders I'm most confident about their probability of being a good pick for the game. And they end up being popular. Does that mean I have my finger on the pulse? That I'm boring? A little of both? :D

Then for this game, I'm usually squeezed for time with processing the main game so I usually start with the riders on my longlist that I selected for the main game, with the thinking that of course if I was confident in them this year I should also be for the 3-year. Then i fill with a hodgepodge of other riders I had my eyes on and marked as having less than 200 career points. And then for the women's game, I was like 'huh I dunno much about this' and threw together a team in an hour. But it all flows back to the same place in terms of popularity of riders on my teams. Does this mean I should skip the months-long process in the main game and just go with my gut? I bet 30 of my 33 riders would be the same if I did, or something along those lines. But I like the process I guess is really it. Helps me get hyped for the season and learn more about riders.

Anyway, some rambling musing - hope this year (and the next two) is fun for everyone, good luck!
 
I had to admit Van Eetvelt wasn't at all fixed in my team.

In fact, he was initially one of my last discards, but I ended making room for him & Steinhauser insead of Ryan & Penhoet. Let's see how it pays, cause it was really a tough call, the other hard discard being Thompson (who was also one of the last cuts last year).

In the case of Van Eetvelt, a factor to make room for him in the last week was that I read in twitter about the Lotto's tests in Mallorca and he was supposedly the best man in the uphill efforts.
 
And here we go

Year 1, month 1 to Feb 5th

Of those we picked, those who have made the best start to the season are:
RiderPts this monthTeamsSource
VAN EETVELT Lennert
88​
28​
2nd and 3rd in Majorca races
GLOAG Thomas
77​
36​
GC 6th and stage 2nd in Valenciana
RICCITELLO Matthew
44​
3​
GC 9th in San Juan
SALBY Alexander
39​
3​
1st 2nd and 3rd in Tropicale stages
AZPARREN IRURZUN Xabier Mikel
30​
1​
GC 9th Saudi Tour
PENHOËT Paul
27​
21​
BARRE Louis
23​
2​
JEANNIERE Emilien
23​
1​
MARTINEZ Lenny
20​
38​

The top 6 picked up their points on 5 different continents.

At this stage, the monthly scores and the overall are obviously the same. I'd be happy enough if the final order was the same as well...

1​
Nyssinator268
2​
Armchair_Cyclist261
2​
DevilsElbow261
4​
Squire256
5​
JonEzeitza255
6​
Otoxiep87254
7​
Joelsim251
8​
Nakazar246
9​
Ludwigzgz242
10​
Madrazo240
10​
Skidmark240
12​
Kryvoskyn239
13​
RoteLaterne238
14​
Laarsland227
14​
LukasCPH227
14​
Rufs227
14​
SafeBet227
18​
Hfgon1224
19​
EvansIsTheBest223
19​
JPettersen223
21​
Anderis222
22​
ZipiZapismo220
23​
JumboVismaFan217
24​
Cordi210
25​
Ray10209
26​
Bminchow185
27​
Leadbelly173
28​
Kazistuta166
29​
Greenedge165
30​
DJW163
31​
Comodoro159
32​
Fivezzz157
33​
Blues_in_the_Bottle156
34​
Berflamand154
35​
Alvarakas146
36​
DJSprtsch135
37​
Salvarani127
38​
Ricco126
38​
Vladimir126
40​
Josedin104
41​
AmisVelo92
42​
RedheadDane38
43​
Jakob74725
CollectiveWisdom254
CollectiveIgnorance1071
MainGame2023240
Goodin2022141

The top seven, at least, all have the Van Eetvelt/Gloag/Penhoet/Martinez combination apart from Nyssinator, who omitted Penhoet but picked Riccitello. Squire additionally has Salby, but fewer points, so far, from his other team members.

The Collective Ignorance team always makes a good start: by definition, it cannot have any riders still waiting to get going. But a WorldTour win while still eligible for Year 1 in the game is pretty rare, and Mayrhofer has shamed us all by collecting that, but no votes of confidence from us. He heads up that team, but in three years time, it could include kids who most of us have still never heard of.

Velorooms has the first lead in the interforum challenge: 204, to 202 for Parliamento Ciclismo and 192 for Cycling News.
 
Year 1, Month 2 6th Feb to 5th March
Only one rider really matters in terms of points here, but he is on 40 of 43 teams
GREGOIRE Romain
164​
40​
8th Strade, 5th Ardeche, 6th Laigueglia
BUSATTO Francesco
46​
2 DJSprtsch & Salvarani​
4th Muscat
PENHOËT Paul
40​
21​
Almeria 9th
ONLEY Oscar
34​
36​
Algarve 12th
BONNET Thomas
31​
1 (Leadbelly)​
Rwanda stage win and jersey
THOMPSON Reuben
29​
17​
PITHIE Laurence
29​
6​
SEXTON Tom
28​
1 (Redhead Dane)​
RICCITELLO Matthew
22​
3​
PARET-PEINTRE Valentin
20​
1 (Kazistuta)​
MIHKELS Madis
20​
34​

This month
The foot of the table will tell you the teams that didn't include Romain Gregoire.
Rank this monthPts this monthMain scorers (Gregoire +...)
1DJW
354​
Penhoet, Onley, Pithie, Thompson, Mikhels
2DJSprtsch
353​
Busatto, Onley, Thompson, Mikhels
3Comodoro
352​
Penhoet, Onley, Pithie, Thompson, Mikhels
4Armchair_Cyclist
344​
Penhoet, Onley, Pithie, Thompson, Mikhels
5DevilsElbow
337​
6Joelsim
333​
7Bminchow
330​
8Fivezzz
325​
8Otoxiep87
325​
10Leadbelly
321​
10LukasCPH
321​
10Rufs
321​
13Blues_in_the_Bottle
318​
14Salvarani
314​
15Berflamand
313​
16Nakazar
309​
17EvansIsTheBest
308​
17JPettersen
308​
19Kazistuta
307​
20Madrazo
303​
21Anderis
302​
21JonEzeitza
302​
23SafeBet
298​
24Squire
297​
25Ricco
296​
25ZipiZapismo
296​
27AmisVelo
295​
27Ludwigzgz
295​
29Cordi
292​
30Skidmark
291​
31Nyssinator
290​
32Laarsland
289​
33Kryvoskyn
288​
34Ray10
280​
35Vladimir
279​
36JumboVismaFan
277​
37Alvarakas
256​
37RoteLaterne
256​
39Josedin
235​
40Jakob747
200​
41Greenedge
173​
42RedheadDane
113​
43Hfgon1
104​
CollectiveWisdom
317​
CollectiveIgnorance
753​
MainGame2023
298​
Goodin2022
157​

Standings
And I might just declare the game over at this point.
1​
Armchair_Cyclist605
1​
2​
DevilsElbow598
0​
3​
Joelsim584
4​
4​
Otoxiep87579
2​
5​
Nyssinator558
-4​
6​
JonEzeitza557
-1​
7​
Nakazar555
1​
8​
Squire553
-4​
9​
LukasCPH548
5​
9​
Rufs548
5​
11​
Madrazo543
-1​
12​
Ludwigzgz537
-3​
13​
EvansIsTheBest531
6​
13​
JPettersen531
6​
13​
Skidmark531
-3​
16​
Kryvoskyn527
-4​
17​
SafeBet525
-3​
18​
Anderis524
3​
19​
DJW517
11​
20​
ZipiZapismo516
2​
20​
Laarsland516
-6​
22​
Bminchow515
4​
23​
Comodoro511
8​
24​
Cordi502
0​
25​
Leadbelly494
2​
25​
JumboVismaFan494
-2​
25​
RoteLaterne494
-12​
28​
Ray10489
-3​
29​
DJSprtsch488
7​
30​
Fivezzz482
2​
31​
Blues_in_the_Bottle474
2​
32​
Kazistuta473
-4​
33​
Berflamand467
1​
34​
Salvarani441
3​
35​
Ricco422
3​
36​
Vladimir405
2​
37​
Alvarakas402
-2​
38​
AmisVelo387
3​
39​
Josedin339
1​
40​
Greenedge338
-11​
41​
Hfgon1328
-23​
42​
Jakob747225
1​
43​
RedheadDane151
-1​
CollectiveWisdom571
CollectiveIgnorance1539
MainGame2023538
Goodin2022298

VeloRooms 508
Equipo Parlamiento 496
Cycling News 479

Spreadsheet
 
Year 1 Month 3 6th March to 2nd April

PITHIE Laurence
162 pts​
6 teams​
GP Cholet win, Loire Atlantique 2nd, Nokere 8th
VAN DIJKE Tim
102​
2​
Denain 2nd
HAGENES Per Strand
86​
24​
Ronde van Drenthe win
PENHOËT Paul
74​
21​
Loire Atlantique 4th, Tourangelle 7th
HAYTER Leo
60​
30​
Coppi e Bartali 5th
MARTINEZ Lenny
48​
38​
EDVARDSEN-FREDHEIM Stian
46​
7​
BARRE Louis
45​
2​
HEIDUK Kim
44​
1​
MORGADO Antonio Tomas
36​
18​

Points this month: Hagenes, Penhoet, Hayter, Martinez and Morgado are all fairly to very popular, so lots of points around for this stage of the game.
1Fivezzz
539​
Pithie, Hagenes, Penhoet, Hayter, Martinez and Morgado
2RoteLaterne
537​
Pithie, Hagenes, Hayter, Martinez, Edvardsen-Fredheim, Barre and Morgado
3Ludwigzgz
474​
Pithie, Hagenes, Hayter, Martinez
4Comodoro
468​
Pithie, Penhoet, Hayter, Edvardsen-Fredheim
5DJW
438​
Pithie, Penhoet, Hayter, Martinez and Morgado
6Greenedge
422​
Pithie, Hagenes, Penhoet, Martinez
7Kryvoskyn
405​
8Joelsim
400​
9ZipiZapismo
390​
10JPettersen
380​
11Armchair_Cyclist
377​
12Berflamand
376​
13Skidmark
368​
14SafeBet
366​
15LukasCPH
363​
16DevilsElbow
353​
17Rufs
350​
18Anderis
345​
19Cordi
341​
20Laarsland
325​
21Otoxiep87
322​
21JonEzeitza
322​
23Squire
309​
24AmisVelo
302​
25Vladimir
298​
26Salvarani
290​
27Madrazo
287​
28Blues_in_the_Bottle
284​
29Kazistuta
282​
30Nakazar
278​
31Leadbelly
264​
32EvansIsTheBest
260​
33JumboVismaFan
247​
34Ricco
240​
35Ray10
236​
36Nyssinator
233​
37Alvarakas
230​
38Hfgon1
221​
39Bminchow
200​
40DJSprtsch
184​
41Josedin
183​
42Jakob747
101​
43RedheadDane
97​
CollectiveWisdom
404​
CollectiveIgnorance
738​
MainGame2023
318​
Goodin2022
312​


Standings
My moment of glory is over: the Red Lantern is the Yellow Jersey (or should that be a white jersey in this game)

1​
RoteLaterne1031
24​
2​
Fivezzz1021
28​
3​
Ludwigzgz1011
9​
4​
Joelsim984
-1​
5​
Armchair_Cyclist982
-4​
6​
Comodoro979
17​
7​
DJW955
12​
8​
DevilsElbow951
-6​
9​
Kryvoskyn932
7​
10​
JPettersen911
3​
10​
LukasCPH911
-1​
12​
ZipiZapismo906
8​
13​
Otoxiep87901
-9​
14​
Skidmark899
-1​
15​
Rufs898
-6​
16​
SafeBet891
1​
17​
JonEzeitza879
-11​
18​
Anderis869
0​
19​
Squire862
-11​
20​
Berflamand843
13​
20​
Cordi843
4​
22​
Laarsland841
-2​
23​
Nakazar833
-16​
24​
Madrazo830
-13​
25​
EvansIsTheBest791
-12​
25​
Nyssinator791
-20​
27​
Greenedge760
13​
28​
Blues_in_the_Bottle758
3​
28​
Leadbelly758
-3​
30​
Kazistuta755
2​
31​
JumboVismaFan741
-6​
32​
Salvarani731
2​
33​
Ray10725
-5​
34​
Bminchow715
-12​
35​
Vladimir703
1​
36​
AmisVelo689
2​
37​
DJSprtsch672
-8​
38​
Ricco662
-3​
39​
Alvarakas632
-2​
40​
Hfgon1549
1​
41​
Josedin522
-2​
42​
Jakob747326
0​
43​
RedheadDane248
0​
CollectiveWisdom975
CollectiveIgnorance1994
MainGame2023856
Goodin2022610

Still much too early to draw any meaningful conclusions, but I suspect a few of us have already decided which riders we omitted were errors.
 
Thanks for the update, even if my team did crash and burn this month. is Archie Ryan going to get any point chances soon? Maybe not. Its not like Jumbo needs any help right now.

If injuries respect him (remember he had serious issues with the knees in the past) he'll score probably 200 (±50) points before going to a WT team next season.
 
Year 1, Month 4 3rd to 30th April


The lesser hyped DSM British youngster leads the way, as this cohort seem to have assiduously avoided the cobbles that we associate with April racing.
POOLE Max
179 pts​
13 teams​
4th in |Romandie, 11th in Alps
GLOAG Thomas
65​
36​
11th in Romandie
MARTINEZ Lenny
61​
38​
2nd in Besancon Doubs
KEPPLINGER Rainer
52​
1​
14 in Romandie, 15 in Sicilia
AZPARREN IRURZUN Xabier Mikel
49​
1​
BUSATTO Francesco
36​
2​
HEIDUK Kim
34​
1​
NYS Thibau
33​
33​
LEMMEN Bart
32​
2​

All of the teams with Poole beat all the teams without him on the monthly scores. With Gloag and Martinez also being very popular picks, there is not much between the top scorers. The top 8 all had Poole, Gloag, Martinez and Nys, but JonE had the additional advantage of Kepplinger.
1JonEzeitza
497​
2EvansIsTheBest
483​
3ZipiZapismo
467​
4Joelsim
456​
5SafeBet
453​
6DevilsElbow
452​
7Otoxiep87
451​
8Leadbelly
440​
9Ludwigzgz
432​
10Skidmark
429​
11LukasCPH
406​
12Ray10
388​
13Comodoro
333​
14Hfgon1
321​
15Cordi
302​
15Ricco
302​
17Greenedge
301​
18Rufs
297​
19Salvarani
295​
20Laarsland
284​
21Armchair_Cyclist
281​
22Nyssinator
274​
22Kazistuta
274​
24Berflamand
273​
24Nakazar
273​
26RoteLaterne
272​
27DJW
269​
28DJSprtsch
266​
29JumboVismaFan
263​
30Squire
261​
31Madrazo
257​
32Fivezzz
253​
33Kryvoskyn
251​
34JPettersen
244​
35Bminchow
237​
36Anderis
225​
37Alvarakas
217​
38Blues_in_the_Bottle
206​
39Jakob747
200​
40Vladimir
177​
41AmisVelo
175​
42Josedin
168​
43RedheadDane
119​
CollectiveWisdom
272​
CollectiveIgnorance
689​
MainGame2023
267​
Goodin2022
310​

A big stir up in the standings, with some dramatic falls by those who had been at and near the top, and a couple of 13 place rises that will not be thought unlucky.

1​
Ludwigzgz1443
2​
2​
Joelsim1440
2​
3​
DevilsElbow1403
5​
4​
JonEzeitza1376
13​
5​
ZipiZapismo1373
7​
6​
Otoxiep871352
7​
7​
SafeBet1344
9​
8​
Skidmark1328
6​
9​
LukasCPH1317
1​
10​
Comodoro1312
-4​
11​
RoteLaterne1303
-10​
12​
EvansIsTheBest1274
13​
12​
Fivezzz1274
-10​
14​
Armchair_Cyclist1263
-9​
15​
DJW1224
-8​
16​
Leadbelly1198
12​
17​
Rufs1195
-2​
18​
Kryvoskyn1183
-9​
19​
JPettersen1155
-9​
20​
Cordi1145
0​
21​
Laarsland1125
1​
22​
Squire1123
-3​
23​
Berflamand1116
-3​
24​
Ray101113
9​
25​
Nakazar1106
-2​
26​
Anderis1094
-8​
27​
Madrazo1087
-3​
28​
Nyssinator1065
-3​
29​
Greenedge1061
-2​
30​
Kazistuta1029
0​
31​
Salvarani1026
1​
32​
JumboVismaFan1004
-1​
33​
Ricco964
5​
33​
Blues_in_the_Bottle964
-5​
35​
Bminchow952
-1​
36​
DJSprtsch938
1​
37​
Vladimir880
-2​
38​
Hfgon1870
2​
39​
AmisVelo864
-3​
40​
Alvarakas849
-1​
41​
Josedin690
0​
42​
Jakob747526
0​
43​
RedheadDane367
0​
CollectiveWisdom1247
CollectiveIgnorance2457
MainGame20231123
Goodin2022920

Not many of the riders here will be involved in the Giro, but don't forget that you are invited to be (its OK, I won't put that in all three updates...)
 

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