I've only been on this forum for a week and it's getting personal already haha!
I'm not going to scare you away (hopefully), but someone else might...
Just avoid dissing Nibali too much, and you'll probably be alright.
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I've only been on this forum for a week and it's getting personal already haha!
I think they fixed one side already, this years u23 Giro has a MTF on Fauniera. They'll need to fix the descent as well before it becomes part of the Giro but I think it'll happen in the coming years.
So a remake of the 2003 stage with Esischie + Sampeyre would be immediately feasible?The ascent got paved and it's gonna be used as a MTF in the u23 Giro, so at least we're one step closer.
I thought the 2020 and 2021 routes were good-to-excellent and only ruined by factors beyond the control of the race - pandemic/weather/etc. I wonder how "reactionary" the routes are to criticism - the Tour apparently designed the 2021 route (with a lot of descents) because they weren't happy with the number of uphill sprint finishes with like 2 minutes of action in 2020, and then got pushback from the French press about the lack of true MTFs hence the 2021 route.
I'm not going to scare you away (hopefully), but someone else might...
The ascending side doesn't need to be especially good. It's the descent that is important when it comes to road quality.I think they fixed one side already, this years u23 Giro has a MTF on Fauniera. They'll need to fix the descent as well before it becomes part of the Giro but I think it'll happen in the coming years.
If the 2021 route had Zoncolan from Ovaro, and a decent length TT in week 2, it would have actually been a really good route.I thought the 2020 and 2021 routes were good-to-excellent and only ruined by factors beyond the control of the race - pandemic/weather/etc. I wonder how "reactionary" the routes are to criticism - the Tour apparently designed the 2021 route (with a lot of descents) because they weren't happy with the number of uphill sprint finishes with like 2 minutes of action in 2020, and then got pushback from the French press about the lack of true MTFs hence the 2022 route.
Does this count?I want to see a stage finish at the summit of a cat 1 climb on the opening weekend. Highly doubt it would ever happen but I can dream.
Very generous categorisation, it must be said.Does this count?
2020 Vuelta was fabulously brutal early but not by design as they were supposed to start in a pan flat part of the Netherlands. The hard route and cold, wet weather caught out a lot of riders like Vlasov who lost big time on day 1. I think this would have been day 4 which is still early but it was not one of the monster climbs like an Angliru or Covadonga.Does this count?
2020 Vuelta was fabulously brutal early but not by design as they were supposed to start in a pan flat part of the Netherlands. The hard route and cold, wet weather caught out a lot of riders like Vlasov who lost big time on day 1. I think this would have been day 4 which is still early but it was not one of the monster climbs like an Angliru or Covadonga.
There was someone on this forum with the idea that the last weekend in the Giro should consist of a that stage on Friday, a Montalcino sterrato stage on saturday before finishing in Rome on Sunday. IMO that could have been an absolute brilliant finish. And let them use the high Alps/Dolomite stages already in the second week of the Giro.i want to see San Pellegrino in Alpe with an Abetone finish like the 2000 stage. it's crazy that they haven't done that again since.
2009 and 2010 Tour de France. 1973 and 1974 Giro d'Italia, 1965 and 1966 Giro d'Italia.I don't think they'd have foreign starts two years in a row.
And that's all I know about route planning.
2009 and 2010 Tour de France. 1973 and 1974 Giro d'Italia, 1965 and 1966 Giro d'Italia.
That's what you get for putting your birthyear into your username. Rookie mistake!I've only been on this forum for a week and it's getting personal already haha!
Yeah, but it's all rather tame compared to the Contador vs Froome and Contador vs Nibali discussions back in the day...I'm not going to scare you away (hopefully), but someone else might...
Just avoid dissing Nibali too much, and you'll probably be alright.
Are that actual rumours?
- Grande partenza in Pescara
- Stage 20: Zoncolan or ITT Monte Lussari
- Stage 21: Udine or Trieste and probably they'll go to Slovenia.
No, I made that up.Are that actual rumours?