Giro d'Italia 2023 Giro d'Italia, Stage 13: Borgofranco d’Ivrea – Crans Montana, 199 km (Friday, May 19th)

[DNP-Old]

Plans for Caruso in the descent?

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Pinot single-handedly saving the stage

Caruso joining in

 

[JosefK]

Pinot ... don't toy with my emotions.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Former top 20 giro finisher and MSR podium Ben Swift making it back

 

[Sciatic]

Setting up Caruso

 

[Netserk]

Of course it matters because each connection is mediated by all kinds of other factors. Any random fan on their couch claiming to pay the rider’s wages is absurd. Each fan is a nearly valueless set of eyes on a logo, who might potentially but probably won’t pay for some commodity or service sold by a company which pays teams to wear outfits with those logos. Riders owe you nothing.

Any random customer on their couch claiming to pay Amazon employees' wages is absurd. Any single customer is nearly valueless. The employees own them nothing.

 

[Riek s]

now we just need to wait who is going to take the sled for the descend, and who try it on the bikes?

 

[StryderHells]

Another exhibition of how great these short and explosive stages are! Derek Gee with 1.30 on the peloton where the sprinter Ben Swift just rejoined!

We don’t know what type of rider Gee is at this stage and Swift hasn’t been a sprinter for quite a while.

 

[MrTea1976]

Casual G.

 

[Riek s]

Are you paying for a spectator to throw a beer at you or paying to throw a beer at one of your rivals?

you buy to throw a beer at rider of choice

 

[theyoungest]

De Plus is riding hard to make sure Ben Swift doesn't return.

 

[Ricco']

Didn't vine just sign a contract until 2056 last week?

I would like to see what UAE concedes to their riders during contract negotiations in terms of goals.

Everyone of them seems to think they are in for some big plans and opportunities, but a team with Pogacar, Ayuso, Almeida, Yates and hot prospects like McNulty, Fisher-Black and upcoming Christen and maybe Morgado, it can't work for everybody.

Add some 2nd or 3rd-tier riders who think they are the cherry on top of the cake like Vine or Soler and it's recipe for disaster.

 

[ppanther92]

Pinot shoud keep Gee, Rubio and Cepeda with him now. 20km flat valley incoming.

 

[Bolder]

Riccitello is tiny. Would love to see him and Lenny Martinez in a break...

 

[Ilmaestro99]

If derrick gee win this stage I retire from watching cycling

 

[titan31]

Indirectly means nothing. Teams pay the riders. How riders and teams interact is an industrial relations question. You pay nobody. What you think is irrelevant to the riders.

If everyone stops watching, the sport goes back to amateur/semi pro level though. Fans need to be there for the sponsors to pay the riders. Without us, these guys don't get to make a career out of it.

 

[Lequack]

So is Jay Vine helping Almeida?

 

[MrTea1976]

Nice climb.

 

[HelloDolly]

Did Vine whine publicly about having to work for Almeida? Or are people just inferring that he‘s sulky?

He did whine while saying he didnt care about top 10 as there was no money it ...he cared about stage wins but the team stays he stays with Almeida ...
He said he was happy with that while every ounce of his voice and demeanour suggested he was anything but

 

[saunaking]

fast firework explosion start? what the hell is rob hatch even watching

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Any random customer on their couch claiming to pay Amazon employees' wages is absurd. Any single customer is nearly valueless. The employees own them nothing.

Any random customer on their couch claiming to pay Amazon’s employees wages is indeed being absurd, but at least the relationship between that customer and the employee is mediated only by two relatively simple commercial exchanges. The cycling fan claiming to pay cyclist’s wages and believing that consequently the rider owes them something is an outright fantasist.

 

[Netserk]

The climb looks fabulous, to focus on the bright side.

 

[Offline]

So is Jay Vine helping Almeida?

Not even for a second

 

[glassmoon]

Dutch Eurosport guys couldn't hear each other and were talking at the same time. Funny.

czech ones too (for whole giro)... everyone works from home these days

 

[Tim Cahill]

Oh my god look at this descent, it's like a building site out there