Giro d'Italia 2023 Giro d'Italia, Stage 4: Venosa – Lago Laceno 175 km (Tuesday, May 9th)

[Logic-is-your-friend]

At least the TV directors learned something from last year and actually showed the peloton at times on the final climb.

TV team is the Sporza team, including motards/cameras. Organisation hired them.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Klaas Lodewyck implies that they let the guys peel off one by one to save energy, because they knew nothing was going to happen anymore, and because it had been a hard race.

Dubious.

Yeah, they are probably trying to downplay it right now. Could become a problem if certain riders don't improve. Cattaneo and Van Wilder were surprisingly bad today.

 

[dobrien]

If teams play the numbers game stage 8 will already be a big problem for them.

If Remco is this isolated on 7 and 8 Ineos (and hopefully others) have to really be thinking about taking something out of him for stage 9; the focus has to be on making him do a lot of his own work and not doing it for him. And that means attacking.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Joke's on you for getting expectations up in that situation. Not much ever happens on a stage like this on a stage 4 unless one team can dominate the race solo and those teams don't go to the Giro most of the time.

Final climb was disappointing I agree, but I think everyone was afraid of getting countered in the worst caase and Evenepoel pulling it back on the flat in the best case and you still get nothing.

Stage 4 to Sestola had decent GC action two years back and that was an extremely similar finale in terms of profile, also off the back of a huge battle to get into the break, with better breakaway action to boot. Yes, the weather wasn't as bad today, but I don't think having higher expectations than nothing happening in the peloton on that final climb coupled with a lame fight for the stage is on me...

 

[tobydawq]

TV team is the Sporza team, including motards/cameras. Organisation hired them.

I don't think it's particularly nice that you and lots of others keep calling every motorcycle rider a motard.

Unless it's actually a real word but as I understand it, it's an amalgamation of motorcyclist and genius.

Edit: Apparently, the new site now censors the word r*tard and writes genius instead... Pretty daft.

 

[Andy schleck]

Stage 7 and 8 looks pretty hard as well. I think today is the easiest out of those three stages

Maybe some of these rather hard sprinter stages will deliver something

It's not gonna happen anything on campo imperatore. Maybe just a irrelevant attack by some GC favourite. The climb is just about the last 4 kms.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

It's not gonna happen anything on campo imperatore. Maybe just a irrelevant attack by some GC favourite. The climb is just about the last 4 kms.

But who can forget in 2018 Masnada being the last survivor from the breakaway, riding alone on that barren road

 

[Sciatic]

Well, one might argue that Ineos was trying to prevent a late Remco attack with their pacing, but more realistically they were just programmed 15 years ago and haven't been updated since.

Honestly, I think you’re exactly right. There was no pint for them executing a “keep the pace high so there’s no attacks” —it was just because it’s Ineos/Sky.

I mean I guess it does discourage attacks because it tells the other riders, okay we’ll pull for these last 5 Km so you don’t have to do any work.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

I don't think it's particularly nice that you and lots of others keep calling every motorcycle rider a motard.

Unless it's actually a real word but as I understand it, it's an amalgamation of motorcyclist and genius.

It's the French word for motorcyclist that has also been adopted in the Dutch-speaking cycling world.

 

[Escarabajo]

Klaas Lodewyck implies that they let the guys peel off one by one to save energy, because they knew nothing was going to happen anymore, and because it had been a hard race.

Dubious.

LOL. They need to learn how to peel!

 

[Tim Cahill]

Live interview from the Quickstep car

 

[Valv.Piti]

It's not gonna happen anything on campo imperatore. Maybe just a irrelevant attack by some GC favourite. The climb is just about the last 4 kms.

Why do you even watch cycling with that mindset? Its a hard day, and I like this stage better than all the headwind Etna stuff they usually go with

 

[tobydawq]

It's the French word for motorcyclist that has also been adopted in the Dutch-speaking cycling world.

Fair enough, then. I always thought it was used mockingly.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Edit: Apparently, the new site now censors the word r*tard and writes genius instead... Pretty daft.

Lol. That's pretty funny

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Fair enough, then. I always thought it was used mockingly.

lol, i've been a motard since my 19.

 

[Didinho]

Edit: Apparently, the new site now censors the word r*tard and writes genius instead... Pretty daft.

Quickstep DS is a genius.

 

[tobydawq]

Lol. That's pretty funny

Now I want to write all kinds of words to see if they get censored too. But I'm too scared of the result to try.

 

[Escarabajo]

Live interview from the Quickstep car

 

[Andy schleck]

Why do you even watch cycling with that mindset? Its a hard day, and I like this stage better than all the headwind Etna stuff they usually go with

They should put some proper mountain stages in the first 2 weeks(except for crans montana). It's possible to do better mountain stages than lago laceno and campo imperatore. The TTs are fine, but they should do also proper medium mountain stages, echelon stage, stage with cobbles. Some diversity to make a more exciting race.

 

[StryderHells]

Remco: Hard stage but I felt good, even better at the end when Ineos was riding.

He can ride in his rainbow jersey tomorrow. Leknessund also in white.

He wont be riding in the rainbow jersey tomorrow, he’s second in the young rider comp so he’ll be wearing white.

 

[Red Rick]

I don't think it's particularly nice that you and lots of others keep calling every motorcycle rider a motard.

Unless it's actually a real word but as I understand it, it's an amalgamation of motorcyclist and genius.

Edit: Apparently, the new site now censors the word r*tard and writes genius instead... Pretty daft.

That's.... not new?

There's a few other ones I forgot.

 

[noob]

Leknesund so cute in pink! Color explosion with that super light red hair and the bright pink

 

[Didinho]

He wont be riding in the rainbow jersey tomorrow, he’s second in the young rider comp so he’ll be wearing white.

You don't have to when you're not the right owner. So 2nd in that you can chose to refuse the white jersey.

 

[tobydawq]

They should put some proper mountain stages in the first 2 weeks(except for crans montana). It's possible to do better mountain stages than lago laceno and campo imperatore. The TTs are fine, but they should do also proper medium mountain stages, echelon stage, stage with cobbles. Some diversity to make a more exciting race.

I take it you haven't studied the route for stage 8 particularly closely?

And how can you blame an Italian race for not designing echelon stages?

 

[search]

You don't have to when you're not the right owner. So 2nd in that you can chose to refuse the white jersey.

...if you have a national or continental champion's jersey. Just to make that clear. Others don't have that choice