Giro d'Italia 2023 Giro d'Italia, Stage 5: Atripalda - Salerno 171 km (Wednesday, May 10th)

[Salvarani]

Please...

I dont know what your problem with this post is. I was speaking in general. How you interpret is on you.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Not a problem, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I am just saying is funny when someone enters the debate saying what is the big deal I am right!!
It is moot point indeed.
BTW, I really don't care about whose fault it was. I am more concerned about who got hurt and the reaction of Remco. Hoping everyone recovers pronto.

I wonder how Vlasov is doing. If i saw it correctly, he gets a bike slammed in his back while on the ground.

 

[Gargamel35]

Dog looks happy. Tail wagging. Cute.

It's actually a really cute dog. Good boy.

 

[tobydawq]

I dont know what your problem with this post is. I was speaking in general. How you interpret is on you.

I dislike dogs with a passion, so they are obviously not fans of me, either. That certainly doesn't make me a bad person.

 

[yaco]

Yet they sent Groenewegen to different races with stages for sprinters with good climbing legs last year, like Dauphiné for example where they chased with the whole team for Groenewegen multiple times to get nowhere. Groves' program could have been so much better last year. Why should he have been confident that his program would have been better this year at Jayco?

Check Groves program in 2022 and 2023 - Prior to the Giro in 2022 he competed in 6 stage races - Except for the UAE, he was the leader in Turkey, Catalunya, Oman, Valenciana and Tirreno and he did a single one day race - Now of course his early year program was more arduous because his big target was the Vuelta - In 2023 he's done three stage races TDU, Catalunya, and PN as the leader and five one day races - And post the Giro in 2022 his program consisted of three stage races, Estonia, Poland, the Vuelta as the leader and he did nine one day races - His program was fine - Finally, as strange as it may seem, sprinters prefer stage races to one day races because in a normal stage race you'll get three opportunities to win, whereas a one day race gives you one opportuniy.

 

[Gargamel35]

Wait youre saying logic isnt Remco's mother?

Damn.

 

[topcat]

Maybe if the Roglic fans admit the Wright incident was 100% Roglic’s fault, then the Remco fans can admit today’s incident was 50% Remco’s fault. Glad to be of service.
Hope everybody is ok, because it’d be a shame to miss out on this fun.

 

[Samamba]

Was it Bouwman who casually decided to take a piss against a wall while waiting for a bike after giving it to Roglic?

That was straight up hilarious. Dude just wipped his well yk out while the cameraman was - luckily from the back - filming him. Chaos around him, Bouwmann just casually pissing against a wall like it's 4 AM after a night out.

 

[Salvarani]

I dislike dogs with a passion, so they are obviously not fans of me, either. That certainly doesn't make me a bad person.

Animals have a pretty good sense. In most cases it is a problem with the owner if it is anything wrong with them, if they have not been raised right or are under-stimulated.

Cool, we have no idea to know if you are "good" or "bad". Just gotta take your word for it. Have a nice evening.

 

[tobydawq]

Animals have a pretty good sense. In most cases it is a problem with the owner if it is anything wrong with them, if they have not been raised right or are under-stimulated.

Cool, we have no idea to know if you are "good" or "bad". Just gotta take your word for it. Have a nice evening.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

a one day race gives you one opportuniy

This is the most groundbreaking analysis I've ever read on this forum.

 

[wheresmybrakes]

Please, Remco, do not bl**dy crash again this race. I really can't go through all this "it's his fault, it isn't his fault" again. If Remco crashed with him being the only one in the race it would be someone else's fault.

 

[topcat]

This is the most groundbreaking analysis I've ever read on this forum.

It’s the most sensible analysis I’ve read all day

 

[Cookster15]

Hope Remco isn't affected by that crash. But its a worry he has a crash like that. Looked easily avoidable for most experienced riders.Lets hope its just gaining experience.

 

[red_flanders]

"keeps drifting"... same can be said of Kirsch, who drifts way further and harder coming from behind. Nothing on him? Ok lol.

If Kirsch is the guy with whom he collided, no. He wasn't "drifting" he was moving to his left with intention and vision, into a wide open space. Completely normal and how one advances in a pack. Remco lets himself move laterally right while looking left, directly into the rear wheel of Kirsch(?).

If you move laterally in a pack without looking where you're going, you are at fault. Period. 100%.

If Remco's coaches and staff tell him anything different, they're enabling behavior that will make him crash again. This isn't complicated.

 

[King Of The Wolds]

That was straight up hilarious. Dude just wipped his well yk out while the cameraman was - luckily from the back - filming him. Chaos around him, Bouwmann just casually pissing against a while like it's 4 AM after a night out.

Highlight of my Giro so far, that. Loved that he parked up Rog's bike neatly against that wall too before taking a piss right next to it.

 

[Salvarani]

If Kirsch is the guy with whom he collided, no. He wasn't "drifting" he was moving to his left with intention and vision, into a wide open space. Completely normal and how one advances in a pack. Remco lets himself move laterally right while looking left, directly into the rear wheel of Kirsch(?).

If you move laterally in a pack without looking where you're going, you are at fault. Period. 100%.

If Remco's coaches and staff tell him anything different, they're enabling behavior that will make him crash again. This isn't complicated.

I believe you are correct in your assessment.

 

[Cookster15]

I dont know what your problem with this post is. I was speaking in general. How you interpret is on you.

Not sure the post was accurate - "great judge of character". Generally yes, but not always. Dogs act like that when they think they are threatened. That doesn't necessarily mean the person threatening them is a bad person.

 

[Salvarani]

Not sure the post was accurate - "great judge of character". Generally yes, but not always. Dogs act like that when they think they are threatened. That doesn't necessarily mean the person threatening them is a bad person.

Sure, sometimes, but I think in the photo it was pretty obvious it didnt see Roglic as a threat

 

[Red Rick]

Apparently no serious injuries for Vlasov, just bruises

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I dislike dogs with a passion, so they are obviously not fans of me, either. That certainly doesn't make me a bad person.

No, but not knowing that a well-known Danish song from the 80s was a cover absolutely does.

I hope the crashed riders, dogs and posters will recover before tomorrow and be able to bury the hatchet and exchange eggs during the stage.

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

Back to c rash #1 and Sporza have compiled a list of animals vs the peloton. I forgot all about Philiipe Gilbert's angry confrontation with a dog's owners during the 2012 Tour.

'Hondzetting' in de koers: ook paarden, koeien, bijen, vogels en antilopes zorgden ooit voor onheil | sporza

Een hond heeft onbedoeld een hoofdrol opgeëist in de 5e etappe van de Ronde van Italië. Het was niet voor het eerst dat een trouwe viervoeter de renners de stuipen op het lijf (en meer) jaagde. Bovendien heeft bijna een hele dierentuin het peloton al eens opgeschud.

sporza.be

 

[Cookster15]

Looks like Australia has unearthed another top sprinter. Groves showing he is the real deal.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Apparently no serious injuries for Vlasov, just bruises

Yeah, that's nice, but doesn't mean he will be ok for the rest of the race. Same for Evenepoel and others who crashed. Could well be the pain puts them crooked on the bike and strain the wrong muscles. Or just take away too much energy to recover, costing them in the race.

 

[rokovski]

Remcos new equipment for future races.