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Giro d'Italia 2023 Giro d'Italia, Stage 7: Capua - Gran Sasso d'Italia (Campo Imperatore), 218 km (Friday, May 12)

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I don't care what Remco said. it's what he does that matters. Tomorrow, all he needs to care about is keep Roglic on a leash and wait for Sunday.

It's too early for Ineos to show their cards. JV needs to show up, drive the pace, expose Soudal if they can and regain some confidence before Sunday, make Roglic believe that he can win and Remco think that he can lose. You can't let Evenepoel feel invincible or he will be.

Can the break take it? I don't think so if JV shows up and rides hard.

You knew it all along, so I'm just stating the obvious: Tibopino will win the bike race.
 
Yes he's right. If he were to sit on Roglic wheel all day you won't hear me complain. He's the one in front. No problem with him stating just that.

But why call Roglic nervous? Trying to play mind games like that is a bit lame to me. Besides, saying stuff like that more often than not backfires and only tends to motivate your opponent.
He didn't step out of the hotel, call everybody to gather round because he wanted to announce: "Roglic is nervous, people!"

He was in the car, on a skype interview with French Eurosport. Philippe Gilbert asked him for his analysis on Roglic, did he think Roglic gave the impression that he was very strong or "ça va aller" (by which i assume Gilbert asks Evenepoel if he thinks he can handle Roglic). His answer was literally: "for the moment i have the impression that he is a bit nervous." That of course Roglic was 43s down in GC. That the team was behaving nervously in the peloton, pushing a lot, their typical style. "But we will see tomorrow if he can take time back". Based on the TT and on the stage were Leknessund took pink, Evenepoel thinks he is better than Roglic for the moment. Then the audio cuts out and he says something about second and third week, and he continues that for the moment the situation is ideal for them, because unlike in Catalunya where he was behind, he is now in the lead with 43s, so he thinks the stress will be higher for them (Jumbo).

That's what he said and how he came to say it. Considering he was asked directly and extensively about Roglic, i don't think he is saying anything strange or wrong. He also does it quite serenely imho. Maybe the part about Jumbo's typical behaviour in the peloton was not needed, but other than that there is little to fault his answer. Devil's Elbow will now verify this to make sure i am not making things up in order to make Evenepoel look good.

Whether it was the smart thing to do, motivating Roglic this way, that's another matter.
 
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He didn't step out of the hotel, call everybody to gather round because he wanted to announce: "Roglic is nervous, people!"

He was in the car, on a skype interview with French Eurosport. Philippe Gilbert asked him for his analysis on Roglic, did he think Roglic gave the impression that he was very strong or "ça va aller" (by which i assume Gilbert asks Evenepoel if he thinks he can handle Roglic). His answer was literally: "for the moment i have the impression that he is a bit nervous." That of course Roglic was 43s down in GC. That the team was behaving nervously in the peloton, pushing a lot, their typical style. "But we will see tomorrow if he can take time back". After the TT and on the stage were Leknessund took pink, Evenepoel thinks he is better than Roglic for the moment. Then the audio cuts out and he says something about second and third week, and he continues that for the moment the situation is ideal for them, because unlike in Catalunya where he was behind, he is now in the lead with 43s, so he thinks the stress will be higher for them (Jumbo).

That's what he said and how he came to say it. Considering he was asked directly and extensively about Roglic, i don't think he is saying anything strange or wrong. He also does it quite serenely imho. Maybe the part about Jumbo's typical behaviour in the peloton was not needed, but other than that there is little to fault his answer. Devil's Elbow will now verify this to make sure i am not making things up in order to make Evenepoel look good.
Regarding your opening sentence, I never said he did that.

It's just... yes, maybe his words were taken out of context but why don't we ever hear these sort of statements from other riders? I never hear Pogacar, Thomas, Roglic, Vingegaard or whomever say their opponent "looks nervous". Why can't he just say "I'm feeling fine and in great shape to beat anybody". I seriously wouldn't mind that. But to point out a single competitor and say he looks nervous..
Let's just say he doesn't score stylepoints in my book with that.
 
Regarding your opening sentence, I never said he did that.

It's just... yes, maybe his words were taken out of context but why don't we ever hear these sort of statements from other riders? I never hear Pogacar, Thomas, Roglic, Vingegaard or whomever say their opponent "looks nervous". Why can't he just say "I'm feeling fine and in great shape to beat anybody". I seriously wouldn't mind that. But to point out a single competitor and say he looks nervous..
Let's just say he doesn't score stylepoints in my book with that.
Again, Gilbert asked him specifically about Roglic.

Gilbert didn't ask him how he was feeling or what he had for breakfast. He asked Evenepoel's opinion/analysis on Roglic and he gave it. The reason why you don't hear that of other riders is because their answer would be "I don't know, i'm focussing on myself" BS answers. Maybe you prefer that, i surely don't.

My opening sentence was because people often seem to assume interviewees make random statements void of context and unprovoked. Also because almost every transcription or translation leaves something out. Even the French Eurosport transcription is biased. "For the moment i have the impression that he is a bit nervous" became "I have the impression that Roglic is nervous". That may not seem like a big difference, but already the tone is different. Then the title literally says "Evenepoel: "Roglic is nervous". Then get that translated to Italian, Italian to Japanese and Japanese back to English and Evenepoel just confessed to triple homicide.
 
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Regarding your opening sentence, I never said he did that.

It's just... yes, maybe his words were taken out of context but why don't we ever hear these sort of statements from other riders? I never hear Pogacar, Thomas, Roglic, Vingegaard or whomever say their opponent "looks nervous". Why can't he just say "I'm feeling fine and in great shape to beat anybody". I seriously wouldn't mind that. But to point out a single competitor and say he looks nervous..
Let's just say he doesn't score stylepoints in my book with that.
Listen I hear you. Remco is a bit brash and sometimes a touch disrespectful, certainly mercurial, often highly complimentary. But also as much as I like Roglic, professional non-comment comments are incredibly boring and disingenuous. It might not be prudent of Remco but I say speak your mind.
 
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Possible. Or a reporter asked him some questions and he gave a straight answer.

Imagine if Evenepoel's rivals gave straight answers as well. Considering how defensive some of Remco's fans are on social media & forums, I can't imagine what the reactions would be.

Someone would need to call Bernard Hinault to act as a mediator to calm everyone down.

Thanks for sticking your neck out. Would certainly please me. But then Roglic needs time with the TT looming. Incredible that we might say this when Roglic is the reigning Olympic TT champion.

Apples & oranges.

I often see this sort of comment but that Olympic ITT was very long, technical & rolling. It had climbs & one brutal climb in particular. People should remember Roglič caught Asgreen on the climb & then got overtaken by him on the flat after the descent.

Flat ITT's (especially without many corners) have never been Rog's forte. In the 2020 Vuelta for example in stage 13's 34km ITT, he barely gapped Carapaz & Carthy on 30km's of flat before crushing the final murito.

But it is forecast rain on Sunday so we'll see whether that affects anyone's performance, because as it stands Evenepoel was always going to take big time out of Rog in the first two ITT's. Not on stage 20's goat path though. That one will be different.
 
I also don't like generic answers but i mostly blame team bosses who probably instruct riders not to say anything. And many riders don't like attention and press so they try to get away quickly. Roglič actually says a lot, but mostly in Slovenian where he feels more comfortable. But yes, mostly about himself, since he's his nr. 1 enemy (crash after crash). Remco is a diva and it shows. He's also young and very cocky. We need people like that to make it interesting. It feels so much better when riders like that get beaten.

What we don't need, is hundreds of words from his lovers every time he makes a step how that step was all good. He could take a d*** in the middle of the street and Logic would be leading the lovers army how this was the best tactical move ever. Grow up.
 
A de fleche wallone of the high mountains is upon us. I think, gc wise, we only might see something if remco either feels supergood or still feels the effects of the crash. Guess I'll be checking the lifefeed untill the final 5k.

On a different note: I this not the climb where they use that big elevator too get everybody down? Wonder if that would be wise with covid lurking..
 
It will be interesting if Rog can recoup the time lost in the ITT. I can just imagine his response to the reporters at the end " not bad for someone who's nervous, eh?" If Rem doesn't lose any time today, his crash was nowhere near as bad as what his team said. Reminds me of WVV saying he's not going for the win, just testing the legs, then going out and steamrolling them all. Bit of BS'ing going on. Like to see someone other than the regular two, to gain time in GC. We need a good mix up for later in the race and not just a 2 up.
 
Could be the day when Geraint Thomas moves into Pink…

After all, he‘s the only one here who already won the TdF, so he knows how it works. Thomas is so good that he can win anything. He‘s one of the favourites today.

Thomas in his lifetime form looked like an amateur when Pog and Vinge engaged afterburners at last year's Tour (except Granon when he beat dead Pog). Under normal circumstances he has no realistic chance to beat Rogla and Remco (but crashes can make the difference OFC).