Giro d'Italia 2024 Giro d'Italia route rumours

[staubsauger]

No! Double ascent of Monte Grappa (first over Bocca di Forca) and downhill finish to Bassano del Grappa would be infinitely better.

Conform!

 

[Netserk]

For the final mountain stage, I'd like something not too hard and worth waiting for: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/44523134

 

[yaco]

That is literally the definition of favoring climbers.

Riders like herrera have no business winning a gt. The routes of today mean only the pure climbers have a chance

No - I am only interested in flat, non-technical ITT's where you can get out all your power and then you create a gap - Anyway the best GC guys today are superior in the ITT and the climbs.

 

[OlavEH]

Btw, the rumour about a big mountain stage in Veneto doesn't comply with the rumour about a finish in Canazei. They could of course do most of the stage in Veneto, and the cross the border to Trentino at Fedaia before descending to Canazei. But when they specify a stage in Veneto, one would also think they mean the location of the stage finish.

Even though it would be backloaded, a finish like this could be fairly good:

Stage 18: Big mountain stage finishing with Fedaia climb and descent to Canazei.
Stage 19: Medium mountain stage to Sappada
Stage 20: Double Monte Grappa ascent including Bocca di Forca on the first climb finishing with a descent finish to Bassano del Grappa
Stage 21: Road stage (not ITT) to Rome.

 

[pman]

I was really hoping to see a stage finish in Slovenia. It doesn't look like that will happen? Seems like a missed opportunity.

 

[Eshnar]

Yesterday Beppe Conti stated that stage 1 will be a flattish road stage from Venaria Reale to Torino and stage 2 will be a MTF to Oropa.

 

[Netserk]

Yesterday Beppe Conti stated that stage 1 will be a flattish road stage from Venaria Reale to Torino and stage 2 will be a MTF to Oropa.

Ammattipyoraily tweeted the other day about Biella wanting the stage finish in town.

 

[Eshnar]

Ammattipyoraily tweeted the other day about Biella wanting the stage finish in town.

yes, that was already a rumour. But it wasn't that obvious to finish in Oropa on stage 2, they could have just finished in town.
I would trust Conti in this case, he's always very well informed about Piedmont.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

For all the rightful criticism of RCS, an Oropa MTF on stage 2 and a non-MTF on stage 20 would tell us they've learned something from the past few editions.

 

[Gigs_98]

To be fair, if they do Grappa twice before a finish in Bassano del Grappa I'm having a hard time imagining the final ascent not being the one used in 2010 and 2014. That would be alright, but it would also most likely all be about the final climb, no matter what they do earlier in the stage. I definitely think having Bocca di Forca as the last major climb before the slow drag up to Grappa would be far and beyond the best option.

 

[OlavEH]

tell us they've learned something from the past few editions.

As long as this also applies to the stages between 2 and 20.........

 

[Devil's Elbow]

As long as this also applies to the stages between 2 and 20.........

Prati di Tivo >> Gran Sasso, for starters.

 

[ChiefMasterPro]

https://x.com/ammattipyoraily/status/1705280200697659471?s=20

 

[OlavEH]

Prati di Tivo >> Gran Sasso, for starters.

Of course. But still the rumoured stages could make the route anything from below average to really good.

Bad would be not much major difficulties in the first 15 stages beside Oropa, Prati de Tivo. Like an ITT and perhaps a medium mountain stage or two that are too easy to create real gaps in the GC, and then backloading with Coe, the Canazei stage, Sappada and Monte Grappa in four consecutive stages from 17 to 20.

Good would be Oropa and Prati di Tivo + at least one big medium mountain stage and at least one more GC stage (in addition to an ITT) like a murito or a sterrato stage in the first two weeks, then Folgaria/Passo Coe on the 15 before the last rest day and the other rumoured stages in stage 18-20.

And of course how stages like the Canazei and Monte Grappa are designed.

 

[ChiefMasterPro]

https://x.com/ammattipyoraily/status/1705604322094878772?s=20

So maybe the queenstage on stage 15 to Livigno? Second time trial the day before. That looks very promising to me.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

The article Amatti linked places the start in Nozza, going up over the climb of Lodrino, then crossing the next mountain through this pass:

Then they would go via Aprica over to Tirano before the Forcola do Livigno towards the finish.
Mentioned as alternatives are the Mortirolo from the wrong side to replace Aprica and Passo Maniva (which would be quite a detour to replace San Zeno with a harder climb)

 

[OlavEH]

Then they would go via Aprica over to Tirano before the Forcola do Livigno towards the finish.
Mentioned as alternatives are the Mortirolo from the wrong side to replace Aprica and Passo Maniva (which would be quite a detour to replace San Zeno with a harder climb)

It won't be much of a queen stage if they are only doing San Zeno and Aprica before Forcola di Livgino. Adding Trivigino via Passo Santa Cristina should really be an option. I prefer that to doing Mortirolo the wrong way yet again.

 

[Netserk]

I would buy that design without hesitation. Sounds good to have after the ITT.

 

[Mayomaniac]

I hope that after this year they know that they have to pay the Swiss extra money to open the Forcola di Livigno early enough for the Giro....

 

[Red Rick]

Gavia+Foscagno is

right

***

there

 

[Mayomaniac]

Anyway, we haven't seen Forcola di Livignno since early on during the final mountain stage of the 2010 Giro and it as the crucial pass of the day is something I really wanna see.

 

[Netserk]

Gavia+Foscagno is

right

***

there

As the first high mountain stage, I think that would be worse. Foscagno is less than 6.4 %, and Gavia would be at least 63 km out.

 

[Red Rick]

As the first high mountain stage, I think that would be worse. Foscagno is less than 6.4 %, and Gavia would be at least 63 km out.

The worst part of that would be it being the first high mountains stage. But you're probably right.

With Gavia/Foscagno I'd probalby want to make the part before the Gavia harder by going through Daone-Campo Carlo Magno and Tonale.

 

[OlavEH]

So right now, we have something like:

Stage 2: Oropa MTF - this is okay, and more or less the only way Oropa should be used (as an early MTF)
Somewhere at the end of week 1 (stage 9?): Prati di Tivo MTF - also okay, there aren't many tougher MTFs in the Apennines.

Stage 15: Livigno finish via Forcola di Livgino - okay stage and probably good length. Trivigno via Passo Santa Cristina should really be added.
Stage 16 or 17: Passo Coe MTF - okay with a big MTF at this point. Coe is a MTF on par with Monte Bondone and Alpe di Siusi.
Stage 18: Canazei finish - this could be anything from really disappointing to a massive mountain stage. I hope that Fedaia is the last climb.
Stage 19: Sappada finish - probably a good medium mountain stage to separate the big mountain stages.
Stage 20: Bassano del Grappa finish via Monte Grappa - could be anything, I really hope they do a double Monte Grappa and not just one of the easier ones like from Caupo.

All in all the total impression of the route will depend much on what they do between stage 2 and 15 and how they design the Livigno and especially the Canazei and Bassano del Grappa stages.

 

[OlavEH]

Btw, I mapped the Livigno stage.

Given a start in Manerba del Garba, climbing of Colle San Zeno and then via Edolo and Aprica to Livigno, this will be over 220km. Therefore it seems not likely they will do something more like adding Trivigno before descending to Tirano and starting the last climb to Forcola di Livigno.