Giro d'Italia 2024 Giro d'Italia route rumours

[Netserk]

The only explicit mention of Canazei is in relation to the 1987 stage, so couldn't it be one of the other Val di Fassa towns? Or does the part I quote unambiguously refer to Canazei?

 

[Netserk]

So the last half of the race could be something like this:

Stage 13 (Friday): Sprint stage, Po Valley
Stage 14 (Saturday): Castiglione delle Stiviere > Desenzano del Garda, ITT (~25 km)
Stage 15 (Sunday): Manerba del Garda > Livigno (San Zeno, Aprica, Forcola di Livigno)
- Rest Day - (Monday): Livigno
Stage 16 (Tuesday): ? > Passo Coe
Stage 17 (Wednesday): ???
Stage 18 (Thursday): ? > Canazei (Brocon? Fedaia? Pordoi?)
Stage 19 (Friday): Mortegliano > Sappada (Monte Rest, Duron, Valcalda, Sappada)
Stage 20 (Saturday): [Lago di Santa Croce] > Bassano del Grappa (Grappa)
Stage 21 (Sunday): Rome

 

[EddyMazzoleni]

Yeah, but after San Pellegrino you'd probably finish in Moena, Not in Canazei...

That said, Rolle-Valles-San Pellegrino followed by a downhill Finish wouldn't be Bad.

In 1978 they did the these exact last three climbs and finished in Canazei. Baronchelli won the stage and De Muynk dropped Moser. But we are not in 1978, so placing the finish in Canazei may result in a non show from the GC guys.
Anyway, this stage desing would actually be interesting.
One thing i'm so far happy about is that there seems to be a limited use of superhard mountaintop finishes in the last week.

 

[Mayomaniac]

In 1978 they did the these exact last three climbs and finished in Canazei. Baronchelli won the stage and De Muynk dropped Moser. But we are not in 1978, so placing the finish in Canazei may result in a non show from the GC guys.
Anyway, this stage desing would actually be interesting.
One thing i'm so far happy about is that there seems to be a limited use of superhard mountaintop finishes in the last week.

Like I said, it would be a great stage If you had the finish in Moena or Vigo di Fassa.

 

[Escarabajo]

IMHO Fedaia never should be the last climb again, but always the penultimate one like in 1998!

Like many times in the past. 2011 being an epic one!

 

[Ulle97]

When was the last time Finestre was used. There was an amazing stage there in 2005 when Simoni, Savoldelli and Rujano were battling it out. I think Contador had a moment of weakness there too in 2015.

I have also heard people saying it's close to the French border and could be used in the Tour. If this is true, which climbs could it link with?

 

[Netserk]

When was the last time Finestre was used. There was an amazing stage there in 2005 when Simoni, Savoldelli and Rujano were battling it out. I think Contador had a moment of weakness there too in 2015.

I have also heard people saying it's close to the French border and could be used in the Tour. If this is true, which climbs could it link with?

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So far, it has always been combined with Sestriere. After that, you can do Sestriere again (like the 2020 Sestriere stage of the Giro), Montgenèvre, Jafferau or Sauze d'Oulx. Alternatively, you can turn left and head towards Pinerolo with Pramartino on the way.

Fraiteve has also been rumoured as an extension of Sestriere. Col Basset and Colle dell'Assietta are additional speculative options.

EDIT: @Libertine Seguros has also had a fantasy design with the finish at Cesana San Sicario (https://forum.cyclingnews.com/threads/race-design-thread.15517/page-102#post-1362170), which can be used directly after Sestriere.

 

[OlavEH]

Fraiteve has also been rumoured as an extension of Sestriere. Col Basset and Colle dell'Assietta are additional speculative options.

Aren't these more or less much of the same climb?

 

[Netserk]

More or less, but not exactly the same.

 

[Gigs_98]

So the last half of the race could be something like this:

Stage 13 (Friday): Sprint stage, Po Valley
Stage 14 (Saturday): Castiglione delle Stiviere > Desenzano del Garda, ITT (~25 km)
Stage 15 (Sunday): Manerba del Garda > Livigno (San Zeno, Aprica, Forcola di Livigno)
- Rest Day - (Monday): Livigno
Stage 16 (Tuesday): ? > Passo Coe
Stage 17 (Wednesday): ???
Stage 18 (Thursday): ? > Canazei (Brocon? Fedaia? Pordoi?)
Stage 19 (Friday): Mortegliano > Sappada (Monte Rest, Duron, Valcalda, Sappada)
Stage 20 (Saturday): [Lago di Santa Croce] > Bassano del Grappa (Grappa)
Stage 21 (Sunday): Rome

That honestly wouldn't be so bad. If this is correct and stage 17 is not another mountain stage this would likely be the least backloaded Giro in a while. The Dolomites stage and the Bassano del Grappa stage have great potential, and I don't mind a pure mtf stage in the final week either. I wouldn't be completely happy with the pacing (I would prefer stages where you can attack from far out right before and after the restday) but at least the day after the Dolomites stage wouldn't be extremely hard and there isn't a f*cking MTT after the final mountainous road stage. I also really like the Sappada stage as a medium mountain day, even though you likely wouldn't have any gc gaps.

So now that I've said something positive, watch them adding another mtf on stage 17, make a mtf on the Fedaia on stage 18, have a flat stage on stage 19, simply use the 2010 side of Grappa twice on stage 20 and finish with a TT in Rome.

 

[Netserk]

If Passo Coe is in, maybe it's more likely to be the finish of stage 17, as the rest day is in Livigno (if the neutral start includes the Munt la Schera Tunnel, you can have an uni-puerto stage to Passo Coe, but I think that's unlikely)? Still an overall good structure, if we are lucky.

There should also be a longer ITT earlier in the race.

 

[Netserk]

From https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily and what else has been posted in this thread so far:

Stage 1 (Saturday): Venaria Reale > Torino (flat?)
Stage 2 (Sunday): ? > Oropa
Stage 3 (Monday): Novara > Alba
Stage 4 (Tuesday): ? > Andora OR Savona
Stage 5 (Wednesday): Genova > Lucca
Stage 6 (Thursday):
Stage 7 (Friday): Foligno > Perugia, ITT (somewhere in the first week)
Stage 8 (Saturday): [an additional stage in Abruzzo]
Stage 9 (Sunday): ? > Prati di Tivo?
- Rest Day - (Monday): [Abruzzo]
Stage 10 (Tuesday):
Stage 11 (Wednesday):
Stage 12 (Thursday):
Stage 13 (Friday): Sprint stage, Po Valley
Stage 14 (Saturday): Castiglione delle Stiviere > Desenzano del Garda, ITT (~25 km)
Stage 15 (Sunday): Manerba del Garda > Mottolino, Livigno (San Zeno, Aprica, Forcola di Livigno, Mottolino)
- Rest Day - (Monday): Livigno
Stage 16 (Tuesday): Livigno > ? (Eira, Foscagno, Stelvio, more?)
Stage 17 (Wednesday): > Passo Coe?
Stage 18 (Thursday): ? > Canazei? (Brocon? Fedaia? Pordoi?)
Stage 19 (Friday): Mortegliano > Sappada (Monte Rest, Duron, Valcalda, Sappada)
Stage 20 (Saturday): [Lago di Santa Croce] > Bassano del Grappa (Grappa)
Stage 21 (Sunday): Rome

@Eshnar, is there more to add?

 

[Eshnar]

From https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily and what else has been posted in this thread so far:

Stage 1 (Saturday): Venaria Reale > Torino (flat?)
Stage 2 (Sunday): ? > Oropa
Stage 3 (Monday):
Stage 4 (Tuesday): ? > Andora OR Savona
Stage 5 (Wednesday): Genova > Lucca
Stage 6 (Thursday):
Stage 7 (Friday): Foligno > Perugia, ITT (somewhere in the first week)
Stage 8 (Saturday): [an additional stage in Abruzzo]
Stage 9 (Sunday): ? > Prati di Tivo?
- Rest Day - (Monday): [Abruzzo]
Stage 10 (Tuesday):
Stage 11 (Wednesday):
Stage 12 (Thursday):
Stage 13 (Friday): Sprint stage, Po Valley
Stage 14 (Saturday): Castiglione delle Stiviere > Desenzano del Garda, ITT (~25 km)
Stage 15 (Sunday): Manerba del Garda > Livigno (San Zeno, Aprica, Forcola di Livigno)
- Rest Day - (Monday): Livigno
Stage 16 (Tuesday): ? > Passo Coe
Stage 17 (Wednesday): ???
Stage 18 (Thursday): ? > Canazei (Brocon? Fedaia? Pordoi?)
Stage 19 (Friday): Mortegliano > Sappada (Monte Rest, Duron, Valcalda, Sappada)
Stage 20 (Saturday): [Lago di Santa Croce] > Bassano del Grappa (Grappa)
Stage 21 (Sunday): Rome

@Eshnar, is there more to add?

Pretty much. The only thing I would add is that according to this

LO STELVIO CIMA COPPI DEL GIRO 2024 E C’E’ UNA NUOVA SALITA A LIVIGNO

LO STELVIO CIMA COPPI DEL GIRO 2024 E C’E’ UNA NUOVA SALITA A LIVIGNO

www.tuttobiciweb.it

stage 16 will start in Livigno and go over the Stelvio, so Passo Coe can't be there. The article says the finish will be in/near Val Gardena, so it might be the Canazei rumour or something else entirely.

 

[Netserk]

Wow, that seems a waste?

 

[Eshnar]

Wow, that seems a waste?

yes. But I have to say I saw it coming, since without it the Cima Coppi would have likely been the Mottolino wall above Livigno (assuming, as i was, that they would approach via Forcola). So I was wondering if they would throw in Gavia or Stelvio just for that.

 

[ChiefMasterPro]

Pretty much. The only thing I would add is that according to this

LO STELVIO CIMA COPPI DEL GIRO 2024 E C’E’ UNA NUOVA SALITA A LIVIGNO

LO STELVIO CIMA COPPI DEL GIRO 2024 E C’E’ UNA NUOVA SALITA A LIVIGNO

www.tuttobiciweb.it

stage 16 will start in Livigno and go over the Stelvio, so Passo Coe can't be there. The article says the finish will be in/near Val Gardena, so it might be the Canazei rumour or something else entirely.

I am okay with a finish in the Val Gardena (Ortsei, Santa Cristina or Selva would be the options) or on top or behind Passo Sella, as long as they would ride the Passo Pinei beforehand.

 

[Mayomaniac]

I am okay with a finish in the Val Gardena (Ortsei, Santa Cristina or Selva would be the options) or on top or behind Passo Sella, as long as they would ride the Passo Pinei beforehand.

Pinei via the hardest side and a downhill finish in Urtijë would be nice.
Haven't heared any rumours about a mountain stage finish in Südtirol from local media so far...

 

[Netserk]

yes. But I have to say I saw it coming, since without it the Cima Coppi would have likely been the Mottolino wall above Livigno (assuming, as i was, that they would approach via Forcola). So I was wondering if they would throw in Gavia or Stelvio just for that.

I could imagine that the article only has a good source for what takes place in Lombardia, and that the stage finish is an unrelated rumour.

 

[ChiefMasterPro]

I could imagine that the article only has a good source for what takes place in Lombardia, and that the stage finish is an unrelated rumour.

I mean, once you reach Merano or Bolzano, there are endless possibilities. Hopefully they chose a good one.

 

[Eshnar]

I could imagine that the article only has a good source for what takes place in Lombardia, and that the stage finish is an unrelated rumour.

I sure hope so

 

[Netserk]

I mean, once you reach Merano or Bolzano, there are endless possibilities. Hopefully they chose a good one.

By the time you get to Merano, Stelvio will be wasted.

 

[OlavEH]

stage 16 will start in Livigno and go over the Stelvio, so Passo Coe can't be there. The article says the finish will be in/near Val Gardena, so it might be the Canazei rumour or something else entirely.

Stelvio and Val Gardena finish on the same stage? That seems pretty moronic.

 

[Netserk]

Pinei via the hardest side and a downhill finish in Urtijë would be nice.
Haven't heared any rumours about a mountain stage finish in Südtirol from local media so far...

So far, Trentino is a black hole. We only have a firm grasp of what happens in Piemonte, Liguria, Lombardia, Veneto and Friuli.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

That article places Maniva in Stage 15, although afaik the ridge road to Crocedomini is still partially sterrato, so that would be a bit weird.

My main takeaway from these rumours is that Italians are still ultra-conservative and the more the long stages bomb, the harder they double down on high altitude and stage length. Approve

 

[Mayomaniac]

So far, Trentino is a black hole. We only have a firm grasp of what happens in Piemonte, Liguria, Lombardia, Veneto and Friuli.

I'm pretty confident about Trentino getting a mountain stage, after all they'll present the Giro there, at the big sports festival that RCS/La Gazzetta is holding in Trento.