2024 Tirreno - Adriatico, March 4-10

[Netserk]

Should easily be some good enough climbs nearby to make it a good stage though, even if it's not the ITT anymore

If it's a road stage, it will still have to finish with a circuit. People want to see them more than once.

 

[Red Rick]

If it's a road stage, it will still have to finish with a circuit. People want to see them more than once.

You have this 1.8km 270 altitude gain hill like 5km from the city. Road surface is great. Descent is a good road. Top would be with 10km to go.

You have to add another 2km 10% climb to make it a circuit through San Benedetto.

It's not hard to make a very hard stage.

 

[Brullnux]

If it's a road stage, it will still have to finish with a circuit. People want to see them more than once.

Sure but you can make a hilly circuit around San Benedetto del Tronto, like a World Champs style circuit.

I do agree though that it's not really an 'annoying' obsession, it's just an extremely financially important one which probably goes some way to keeping the race afloat.

 

[Brullnux]

Not sure what happened to Philipsen there. Was that a 2024 Roglic imitation?

I've just watched it again, he and Milan bump each other and I think Phillipsen never really recovers his momentum from that point, probably hampered by the headwind.

That said, not sure he would've win regardless, as he did look pretty shattered 30m out. Would've been a bit closer though.

 

[Rob5091]

So now's the time to put on your bet for Milan and the points jersey at the Giro. Last year he had the brute speed but was always out of position in the final kms but they seemed to have worked on that at Lidl-Trek.
It's a shame that Philipsen is not doing the Giro as Milan seems to be just as quick.

 

[125C]

So now's the time to put on your bet for Milan and the points jersey at the Giro. Last year he had the brute speed but was always out of position in the final kms but they seemed to have worked on that at Lidl-Trek.
It's a shame that Philipsen is not doing the Giro as Milan seems to be just as quick.

Milan will still be at a pretty significant lead out deficit to Kooij I would say in the Giro, so I wouldn't be super confident yet. Especially with Theuns looking incredibly poor so far this year who was meant to be a big part of Milan's lead out.

 

[RedheadDane]

Had a bit of a random thought reading an interview with Vingegaard about the trophy.

The trophy is rather special.
Lots of riders have kids.
Kids can be... creative.

Have there ever been cases with a rider's kids getting their hands on the trophy in order to use it for make-believe?

 

[Escarabajo]

Very underwhelming race this edition IMO. Other than Isaac del Toro playing Froomey, there was nothing excited to watch. Probably not the fault of Jonas either, but what can we do?

Anyway, I was thinking the other day about something that could be a concern to Vingegaard and is that He is not having real competition in the run up to the Tour de France. I wonder if that doesn't play against him in case he finds himself in deficit early in the race. Or under pressure from actual competition. At least last year he was handedly defeated by Pogacar early in the season. And the previous year as well. Just a thought. It has happened in other sports when there are 2 competitors and one of them has had real challenge in the run up to the final match and the other didn't. We'll see.

 

[Brullnux]

Very underwhelming race this edition IMO. Other than Isaac del Toro playing Froomey, there was nothing excited to watch. Probably not the fault of Jonas either, but what can we do?

Anyway, I was thinking the other day about something that could be a concern to Vingegaard and is that He is not having real competition in the run up to the Tour de France. I wonder if that doesn't play against him in case he finds himself in deficit early in the race. Or under pressure from actual competition. At least last year he was handedly defeated by Pogacar early in the season. And the previous year as well. Just a thought. It has happened in other sports when there are 2 competitors and one of them has had real challenge in the run up to the final match and the other didn't. We'll see.

Nah, Vingo will face Roglic and Evenopoel at Itzulia and Dauphiné. That'll be enough. If anything, he'll face more competition in stage races than Pogacar will before the Tour.

 

[Escarabajo]

Nah, Vingo will face Roglic and Evenopoel at Itzulia and Dauphiné. That'll be enough. If anything, he'll face more competition in stage races than Pogacar will before the Tour.

Ok. Pogacar will face more competition at the Giro. I just don't think that He will walk through 3 weeks.

 

[Brullnux]

Ok. Pogacar will face more competition at the Giro. I just don't think that He will walk through 3 weeks.

Nicely capitalised he!

 

[Mina.S]

Matxin is the best scout in the world and has top contacts in the world, as a tactician he is 0 and persistently interferes in the work of DS, the only DS expert in that team at an acceptable level is Fabio Baldato, 2+2 is always 4, if Pogacar is so far was trained by a quasi-trainer who only prescribed endurance rides of 5W/kg and FTP 15 min intervals 2 times a week after zone 2 and the rest of his training was based on prescribing training from training peaks, imagine what can happen when a top-level coach takes over Sola, if one Yates progressed from 32 years old after 1 year of working with him, how much Pogi will progress 🤭, UAE has the best TT setup in the world, Pogačar finally has a coach who trains him with a Core device for heat training and for the first time you could see Pogacar in Strade Bianche to wear Core attached to a heart rate strap, he finally has real training and intervals for hills for the first time in his career and he will have properly conducted altitude training after the Giro, I can't tell you how I know all that, but believe me I have insight firsthand in all that, how else would I show you Pogačar's part from training on 24.2.2024 and that his 349w is 5.33w/kg as a base training and FTP 431w, that he will be 20% better is frankly a little too hasty, but if could predict for the Giro Pogacar will be at 65 kg, at both TTs he will win, at 15 min he will have 7.3 w/kg, at 20 min 7 w/kg, at 30 min hill 6.7 and at 40+ min hill he will have 6.5 w/ kg and on the Tour kg less and the strength is the same, so if Vingegard gets that from me, he has 👏👏👏👏

I have a PhD and work in a field where a certain zone 2 trainers name comes up a lot of none of it is positive. A few months ago I wrote a reply on another site basically reflecting what I’ve heard at conferences and lab talks. The trainer himself, found the comments later, harassed me online and tried to find out where I work to mess up my career. So crazy considering I’m a first year postdoc and am a nothing compared to academics his level.

what I took from that is that he searches him own name around the internet and personally attacks people. 💀

 

[CyclistAbi]

Jonas on a good form in the beginning of the season and hopefully he can add a bit more to it for the Tour.

 

[Froome]

Jonas on a good form in the beginning of the season and hopefully he can add a bit more to it for the Tour.

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