2024 Tour de France CQ Game

Armchair Cyclist · Jul 5, 2024

Stage 7
First, flatter, ITT

Green points
Are we still calling them the big 4? Only one of them is big in terms of picks.

EVENEPOEL Remco	80	0
POGACAR Tadej	50	0
ROGLIC Primoz	35	10
VINGEGAARD HANSEN Jonas	25	2
CAMPENAERTS Victor	15	0
VAUQUELIN Kévin	10	0
JORGENSON Matteo	5	10
ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves	3	3
HEALY Ben	2	3
KÜNG Stefan	1	0

Sometimes I think top green point scorer on a stage is an achievement that we ought to give more acclaim to...

1	Armchair_Cyclist	40
1	Gotland	40
3	Anderis	38
4	Kazistuta	35
4	Lecko	35
4	Madrazo	35
4	Queen_Stagiaire	35
4	SamuCuenca	35
4	Scrooll07	35
4	Search	35
11	Salvarani, Yellow_Knight	25
13	18_Valve, AmisVelo, Del1962, DJW, Josedin, Laarsland, Leadbelly, LosBrolin	5
21	Googolplex, Hfgon1	3
23	BicycleBoy, BluesInTheBottle, RedheadDane	2
26	the rest	0
	Collective_Wisdom	0
	Pog_vs_the_World	50

Standings

1	Kazistuta	275	0
2	Scrooll07	238	0
3	Anderis	231	0
4	Queen_Stagiaire	193	2
5	SlowClimber	190	-1
6	Lecko	177	1
7	18_Valve	171	-2
8	Gotland	168	1
9	Madrazo	165	-1
10	Search	154	1

Pogacar would single-handedly take a place in the top ten

Yellow points

ROGLIC Primoz	65	10
ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves	63	3
JORGENSON Matteo	45	10
GEE Derek	43	26
VINGEGAARD HANSEN Jonas	25	2
YATES Simon	16	5

BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley	-30	5
LANDA MEANA Mikel	-30	1
RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos	-30	16
GALL Felix	-48	12
CICCONE Giulio	-60	17

1	Anderis	173
2	Gotland	147
3	Armchair_Cyclist	112
4	Scrooll07	80
5	AmisVelo	58
6	Googolplex	53
7	Queen_Stagiaire	51
8	Hfgon1	50
9	Lecko	48
10	LosBrolin	47
11	18_Valve	38
12	SamuCuenca	35
12	ZigZagWanderer	35
14	Salvarani	20
15	Laarsland	19
16	Josedin	10
17	Kazistuta	9
18	Yellow_Knight	8
19	Ingsve	6
20	Del1962	5
21	Sam6	3
22	Search	2
23	DJW	0
24	Leadbelly	-6
24	Madrazo	-6
26	BicycleBoy	-13
27	Devils_Elbow	-20
28	SlowClimber	-21
29	RedheadDane	-29
30	JumboVismaFan	-31
31	BluesInTheBottle	-36
31	Vladimir	-36
33	Triley36	-52
34	Titan31	-65
35	Rufs	-78
36	Evans_is_the_Best	-79
37	Peixotini	-93
38	ArchieBoy	-95
39	DJSprtsch	-96
	Collective_Wisdom	-93
	Pog_vs_the_World	70

Standings

1	Anderis	1074	6
2	Scrooll07	1058	-1
3	Queen_Stagiaire	981	1
4	Kazistuta	947	-1
5	Search	944	-3
6	Gotland	917	12
7	Madrazo	916	-2
8	Armchair_Cyclist	892	9
9	Yellow_Knight	890	1
10	DJW	885	-1
11	Hfgon1	862	3
12	Lecko	860	2
13	Triley36	848	-5
14	Leadbelly	837	-3
15	Peixotini	813	-9
16	BicycleBoy	812	-3
17	Devils_Elbow	807	-5
18	18_Valve	771	5
19	LosBrolin	767	6
20	Josedin	737	4
20	Laarsland	737	7
22	SamuCuenca	717	7
23	Evans_is_the_Best	715	-7
24	Vladimir	710	-4
25	Del1962	709	3
26	BluesInTheBottle	702	-5
27	Googolplex	695	7
28	Salvarani	670	5
29	ArchieBoy	668	-10
30	JumboVismaFan	651	-1
31	AmisVelo	649	5
32	SlowClimber	647	-1
33	Rufs	641	-7
34	DJSprtsch	638	-12
35	Sam6	602	0
36	Titan31	590	-4
37	ZigZagWanderer	589	1
38	Ingsve	573	-1
39	RedheadDane	321	0
	Collective_Wisdom	876
	Pog_vs_the_World	1045

Spreadsheet

Anderis · Jul 5, 2024

Anderis said:
Not looking good. Should've picked Carapaz.

Should've shown more patience before writing that post.

Armchair Cyclist · Jul 6, 2024

Stage 8
The perfect breakaway stage that wasn't
Green points

GIRMAY HAILU Biniam	80	0
PHILIPSEN Jasper	50	0
DE LIE Arnaud	35	0
ACKERMANN Pascal	25	2
VAN DEN BERG Marijn	15	0
GIBBONS Ryan	10	1
TURGIS Anthony	5	0
WRIGHT Fred	3	4
ARANBURU DEBA Alexander	2	0
EVENEPOEL Remco	1	0

not many of us taking the points today:

1	Kazistuta	25
1	Search	25
3	AmisVelo	10
4	Armchair_Cyclist	3
4	Del1962	3
4	DJW	3
4	RedheadDane	3

and otherwise, zeros all around

Standings Some significance in the handful of points: Search rises past several of the top ten, and Kazistuta extends his lead.

1	Kazistuta	300	0
2	Scrooll07	238	0
3	Anderis	231	0
4	Queen_Stagiaire	193	0
5	SlowClimber	190	0
6	Search	179	4
7	Lecko	177	-1
8	18_Valve	171	-1
9	Gotland	168	-1
10	Madrazo	165	-1

The points a bit farther down are very congested: Amis Velo rose 10 places by virtue of getting just 10 points.

Yellow points
Another rather neutered day for the game

ACKERMANN Pascal	25	2
GIBBONS Ryan	10	1
DEMARE Arnaud	9	2
JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland	3	1
WRIGHT Fred	3	4

BARDET Romain	-4	1
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando	-5	5
ONLEY Oscar	-6	3

1	Search	27
2	Kazistuta	20
3	RedheadDane	19
4	DJSprtsch	11
5	AmisVelo	10
6	Del1962	5
7	BicycleBoy	4
7	Devils_Elbow	4
9	Armchair_Cyclist	3
9	DJW	3
11	BluesInTheBottle	2
11	Evans_is_the_Best	2
11	JumboVismaFan	2
11	Leadbelly	2
11	Lecko	2
11	LosBrolin	2
11	Peixotini	2
11	Queen_Stagiaire	2
11	Rufs	2
11	Salvarani	2
11	Triley36	2
11	Vladimir	2
11	Yellow_Knight	2
24	Googolplex	0
24	Gotland	0
24	Hfgon1	0
24	Josedin	0
24	Madrazo	0
24	Sam6	0
24	SamuCuenca	0
24	ZigZagWanderer	0
32	18_Valve	-1
33	SlowClimber	-3
34	Ingsve	-4
34	Laarsland	-4
36	Anderis	-5
36	Scrooll07	-5
38	ArchieBoy	-6
38	Titan31	-6
	Collective_Wisdom	2
	Pog_vs_the_World	21

Standings
On a day when hardly anyone changed place, the second highest scorer on the day loses one.

1	Anderis	1069	0
2	Scrooll07	1053	0
3	Queen_Stagiaire	983	0
4	Search	971	1
5	Kazistuta	967	-1
6	Gotland	917	0
7	Madrazo	916	0
8	Armchair_Cyclist	895	0
9	Yellow_Knight	892	0
10	DJW	888	0
11	Hfgon1	862	0
11	Lecko	862	1
13	Triley36	850	0
14	Leadbelly	839	0
15	BicycleBoy	816	1
16	Peixotini	815	-1
17	Devils_Elbow	811	0
18	18_Valve	770	0
19	LosBrolin	769	0
20	Josedin	737	0
21	Laarsland	733	-1
22	Evans_is_the_Best	717	1
22	SamuCuenca	717	0
24	Del1962	714	1
25	Vladimir	712	-1
26	BluesInTheBottle	704	0
27	Googolplex	695	0
28	Salvarani	672	0
29	ArchieBoy	662	0
30	AmisVelo	659	1
31	JumboVismaFan	653	-1
32	DJSprtsch	649	2
33	SlowClimber	644	-1
34	Rufs	643	-1
35	Sam6	602	0
36	ZigZagWanderer	589	1
37	Titan31	584	-1
38	Ingsve	569	0
39	RedheadDane	340	0
	Collective_Wisdom	878
	Pog_vs_the_World	1066

As to tomorrow, I guess it is the definitive "anything can happen" stage. You can't win the game on stage nine, but you can lose it...

RedheadDane · Jul 6, 2024

I picked Bini for the Giro as part of my non-European lineup, and he crashes out after three-and-a-bit days.
I didn't pick him for the Tour - despite him fitting my selection criteria - and he wins two stages...

Armchair Cyclist · Jul 6, 2024

RedheadDane said:
I picked Bini for the Giro as part of my non-European lineup, and he crashes out after three-and-a-bit days.
I didn't pick him for the Tour - despite him fitting my selection criteria - and he wins two stages...

What were your criteria?

And has anyone spotted the principle behind Samu's team? It is doing rather better than a selection not made on the grounds of "I think this is the best I can construct within the budget" should be able to expect.

RedheadDane · Jul 6, 2024

Armchair cyclist said:
What were your criteria?

I only picked riders with names starting with 'A', 'B', 'J', or 'L'. And I'll remind that Wright's name isn't actually 'Fred', it's 'Alfred'!

Armchair Cyclist · Jul 6, 2024

RedheadDane said:
I only picked riders with names starting with 'A', 'B', 'J', or 'L'. And I'll remind that Wright's name isn't actually 'Fred', it's 'Alfred'!

Any particular reason for that particular combination of letters?

RedheadDane · Jul 6, 2024

Armchair cyclist said:
Any particular reason for that particular combination of letters?

My initials, not necessarily in that order.
Please don't ban me for breaking the "Don't reveal your own name" rule.

Armchair Cyclist · Jul 7, 2024

Stage 9: Gravel
No real GC action, must have been a boring one...

Green points

TURGIS Anthony	80	0
PIDCOCK Thomas	50	1
GEE Derek	35	26
ARANBURU DEBA Alexander	25	0
HEALY Ben	15	3
LUTSENKO Alexey	10	0
ROMO OLIVER Javier	5	0
STUYVEN Jasper	3	0
GIRMAY HAILU Biniam	2	0
MATTHEWS Michael	1	1

second and third for Slow Climber, but not the winner

1	SlowClimber	85
2	BicycleBoy	50
2	BluesInTheBottle	50
4	Lots of teams with Gee	35
27	RedheadDane	15
28	Rufs	1
29	The rest	0
	Collective_Wisdom	35
	Pog_vs_the_World	0

Standings
As I usually do for a rest day, not just the top ten:

1	Kazistuta	300	0
2	SlowClimber	275	3
3	Scrooll07	273	-1
4	Anderis	266	-1
5	Queen_Stagiaire	228	-1
6	Search	214	0
7	Lecko	212	0
8	18_Valve	206	0
9	Gotland	203	0
10	Madrazo	200	0
11	Yellow_Knight	157	2
12	DJW	155	2
13	Armchair_Cyclist	152	-2
14	Triley36	148	2
15	BicycleBoy	143	4
16	BluesInTheBottle	142	4
17	Ingsve	130	1
18	Peixotini	128	-6
19	Hfgon1	127	1
20	Devils_Elbow	125	6
21	Leadbelly	123	6
22	Googolplex	121	6
23	Titan31	120	6
24	Laarsland	118	-9
25	AmisVelo	96	-8
26	Rufs	92	-4
27	Del1962	91	-5
27	Evans_is_the_Best	91	-5
27	JumboVismaFan	91	-5
30	Josedin	85	2
31	DJSprtsch	77	-1
32	SamuCuenca	75	-1
33	LosBrolin	53	1
34	ZigZagWanderer	51	1
35	ArchieBoy	48	2
36	Vladimir	45	2
37	Salvarani	40	-4
38	Sam6	39	1
39	RedheadDane	30	-3
	Collective_Wisdom	128
	Pog_vs_the_World	155

Yellow

GEE Derek	105	26
PIDCOCK Thomas	62	1
HEALY Ben	34	3
THOMAS Geraint	8	1
GALL Felix	6	12
HINDLEY Jai	5	3
MAS NICOLAU Enric	5	10

COQUARD Bryan	-5	1
DEMARE Arnaud	-5	2
ONLEY Oscar	-5	3
BARDET Romain	-7	1
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	-8	9
MEINTJES Louis	-8	18
JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland	-9	1
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley	-10	5
CICCONE Giulio	-10	17
JORGENSON Matteo	-20	10
YATES Simon	-33	5

1	SlowClimber	155
2	BluesInTheBottle	150
3	BicycleBoy	121
4	Googolplex	116
5	Vladimir	112
6	Anderis	105
6	Scrooll07	105
8	Madrazo	103
9	18_Valve	98
10	Titan31	96
11	Devils_Elbow	95
11	Search	95
13	Triley36	92
14	ArchieBoy	91
14	Josedin	91
16	Hfgon1	89
17	Gotland	87
17	Lecko	87
17	Yellow_Knight	87
20	Queen_Stagiaire	85
21	LosBrolin	84
22	DJW	77
23	Ingsve	70
24	ZigZagWanderer	58
25	Sam6	56
26	Leadbelly	51
27	RedheadDane	14
28	SamuCuenca	0
29	Rufs	-1
30	Evans_is_the_Best	-3
30	Salvarani	-3
32	JumboVismaFan	-9
33	Peixotini	-11
34	Armchair_Cyclist	-18
34	DJSprtsch	-18
34	Kazistuta	-18
37	Laarsland	-25
38	AmisVelo	-46
39	Del1962	-77
	Collective_Wisdom	95
	Pog_vs_the_World	19

Standings

1	Anderis	1174	0
2	Scrooll07	1158	0
3	Queen_Stagiaire	1068	0
4	Search	1066	0
5	Madrazo	1019	2
6	Gotland	1004	0
7	Yellow_Knight	979	2
8	DJW	965	2
9	Hfgon1	951	2
10	Kazistuta	949	-5
11	Lecko	949	1
12	Triley36	942	1
13	BicycleBoy	937	2
14	Devils_Elbow	906	3
15	Leadbelly	890	-1
16	Armchair_Cyclist	877	-8
17	18_Valve	868	1
18	BluesInTheBottle	854	8
19	LosBrolin	853	0
20	Josedin	828	0
21	Vladimir	824	4
22	Googolplex	811	5
23	Peixotini	804	-7
24	SlowClimber	799	9
25	ArchieBoy	753	4
26	SamuCuenca	717	-4
27	Evans_is_the_Best	714	-5
28	Laarsland	708	-7
29	Titan31	680	8
30	Salvarani	669	-2
31	Sam6	658	4
32	ZigZagWanderer	647	4
33	JumboVismaFan	644	-2
34	Rufs	642	0
35	Ingsve	639	3
36	Del1962	637	-12
37	DJSprtsch	631	-5
38	AmisVelo	613	-8
39	RedheadDane	354	0
	Collective_Wisdom	973
	Pog_vs_the_World	1085

Because they are in the top ten, I have applied the tie-breaker to Kazistuta and Lecko. I give a higher placing to the team that has the lesser reliance on riders that give many points. They both have Roglic as their highest putative scorer, but then Lecko's second highest is Gee (215), while Kazistuta's is Ciccone (112), so it is Kaz who gets the top ten spot.

Enjoy your rest day

bminchow · Jul 8, 2024

Oh boy. Work has sucked so bad i missed the tdF contest! Oh well, hope y'all are enjoying it

Armchair Cyclist · Jul 8, 2024

bminchow said:
Oh boy. Work has sucked so bad i missed the tdF contest! Oh well, hope y'all are enjoying it

I had noticed your absence from the game, and from the forum for some time: glad it wasn't for any more serious reason.

Armchair Cyclist · Jul 9, 2024

Stage 10
Have you recovered from your coma yet?
Green points
We're still scoring fairly sparsely in the sprint stages

PHILIPSEN Jasper	80	0
GIRMAY HAILU Biniam	50	0
ACKERMANN Pascal	35	2
VAN AERT Wout	25	0
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando	15	5
BENNETT Sam	10	3
DEGENKOLB John	5	1
BAUHAUS Phil	3	5
GROENEWEGEN Dylan	2	0
ZINGLE Axel	1	0

Kazistuta (Ackermann/Gaviria/Bauhaus) again: taking sprint stage victories like early 2010s Cavendish

1	Kazistuta	53
2	Search	35
3	SlowClimber	25
4	18_Valve	15
4	Anderis	15
4	Scrooll07	15
7	Hfgon1	10
7	Titan31	10
9	SamuCuenca	5
10	DJSprtsch	3
10	Josedin	3
10	Lecko	3
10	Peixotini	3
14	the rest	0

Standings

1	Kazistuta	353	0
2	SlowClimber	300	0
3	Scrooll07	288	0
4	Anderis	281	0
5	Search	249	1
6	Queen_Stagiaire	228	-1
7	18_Valve	221	1
8	Lecko	215	-1
9	Gotland	203	0
10	Madrazo	200	0

Yellow points
Nobody has Vlasov, but a bunch of riders picked up points by moving up as he vacated 11th place.

ACKERMANN Pascal	35	2
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando	27	5
BENNETT Sam	10	3
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley	10	5
BUITRAGO SANCHEZ Santiago	10	11
CICCONE Giulio	10	17
GALL Felix	6	12
HINDLEY Jai	6	3
CRAS Steff	5	7
DEGENKOLB John	5	1
HEALY Ben	5	3
MAS NICOLAU Enric	5	10

1	Kazistuta	80
2	Search	60
3	SlowClimber	59
4	18_Valve	46
5	Titan31	38
6	Peixotini	37
7	Hfgon1	32
7	Scrooll07	32
9	Triley36	30
10	Anderis	29
10	BicycleBoy	29
12	Leadbelly	26
13	Sam6	24
14	Devils_Elbow	23
15	Vladimir	22
16	DJSprtsch	20
16	Evans_is_the_Best	20
16	Rufs	20
19	AmisVelo	19
19	Ingsve	19
19	Queen_Stagiaire	19
19	ZigZagWanderer	19
23	ArchieBoy	18
23	Del1962	18
23	Madrazo	18
26	Lecko	17
27	BluesInTheBottle	16
28	Yellow_Knight	14
29	RedheadDane	13
30	Armchair_Cyclist	12
30	DJW	12
30	Googolplex	12
33	JumboVismaFan	11
33	LosBrolin	11
35	Josedin	9
35	Salvarani	9
37	SamuCuenca	6
38	Laarsland	3
39	Gotland	2
	Collective_Wisdom	32
	Pog_vs_the_World	20

Standings

Search gets a little closer, but the top two still have a decent gap. (they share Roglic/Gee/Gaviria/Cavendish)

1	Anderis	1203	0
2	Scrooll07	1190	0
3	Search	1126	1
4	Queen_Stagiaire	1087	-1
5	Madrazo	1037	0
6	Kazistuta	1029	4
7	Gotland	1006	-1
8	Yellow_Knight	993	-1
9	Hfgon1	983	0
10	DJW	977	-2
11	Triley36	972	1
12	BicycleBoy	966	1
12	Lecko	966	-1
14	Devils_Elbow	929	0
15	Leadbelly	916	0
16	18_Valve	914	1
17	Armchair_Cyclist	889	-1
18	BluesInTheBottle	870	0
19	LosBrolin	864	0
20	SlowClimber	858	4
21	Vladimir	846	0
22	Peixotini	841	1
23	Josedin	837	-3
24	Googolplex	823	-2
25	ArchieBoy	771	0
26	Evans_is_the_Best	734	1
27	SamuCuenca	723	-1
28	Titan31	718	1
29	Laarsland	711	-1
30	Sam6	682	1
31	Salvarani	678	-1
32	ZigZagWanderer	666	0
33	Rufs	662	1
34	Ingsve	658	1
35	Del1962	655	1
35	JumboVismaFan	655	-2
37	DJSprtsch	651	0
38	AmisVelo	632	0
39	RedheadDane	367	0
	Collective_Wisdom	1005
	Pog_vs_the_World	1105

I haven't had to change the top ten in the polka dots classification since stage 4: maybe tomorrow. And maybe something else will change too.

Armchair Cyclist · Jul 10, 2024

Stage 11
Makes up for yesterday?

Green Points

VINGEGAARD HANSEN Jonas	80	2
POGACAR Tadej	50	0
EVENEPOEL Remco	35	0
ROGLIC Primoz	25	10
CICCONE Giulio	15	17
ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves	10	3
YATES Adam	5	0
LANDA MEANA Mikel	3	1
RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos	2	16
GALL Felix	1	12

Only the third stage in which the winner has been a pick in the game. Two managers went for the expensive pick: one of them also chose Ciccone

1	Yellow_Knight	95
2	Salvarani	80
3	Madrazo	41
3	Search	41
5	Kazistuta	40
5	Lecko	40
5	Queen_Stagiaire	40
8	Anderis	35
9	SamuCuenca	28
10	Scrooll07	27
11	Armchair_Cyclist	25
11	Gotland	25
11	Hfgon1	25
14	ArchieBoy	18
15	DJSprtsch	17
15	DJW	17
15	Peixotini	17
15	Triley36	17
19	Titan31	16
20	Del1962	15
20	Leadbelly	15
20	Sam6	15
20	SlowClimber	15
24	Googolplex	11
25	BluesInTheBottle	3
25	Evans_is_the_Best	3
25	Josedin	3
25	Rufs	3
25	Vladimir	3
30	BicycleBoy	2
30	Devils_Elbow	2
30	JumboVismaFan	2
30	Laarsland	2
30	LosBrolin	2
35	18_Valve	1
35	Ingsve	1
37	AmisVelo	0
37	RedheadDane	0
37	ZigZagWanderer	0
	Collective_Wisdom	18
	Pog_vs_the_World	50

Standings

1	Kazistuta	393	0
2	Anderis	316	2
3	Scrooll07	315	0
3	SlowClimber	315	-1
5	Search	290	0
6	Queen_Stagiaire	268	0
7	Lecko	255	1
8	Yellow_Knight	252	3
9	Madrazo	241	1
10	Gotland	228	-1

Salvarani has a 13 place rise, but that is partly because he was very low before

Yellow Points
Plenty of GC variation, just not in the top 4

VINGEGAARD HANSEN Jonas	90	2
CICCONE Giulio	55	17
ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves	40	3
RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos	37	16
LANDA MEANA Mikel	33	1
GALL Felix	27	12
ROGLIC Primoz	27	10
KELDERMAN Wilco	24	2
HEALY Ben	17	3
CRAS Steff	16	7
YATES Simon	10	5

MAS NICOLAU Enric	-10	10
HINDLEY Jai	-11	3
DECLERCQ Tim	-20	1
PIDCOCK Thomas	-20	1
WRIGHT Fred	-20	4
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion	-22	1
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley	-30	5
JORGENSON Matteo	-30	10
GEE Derek	-40	26

A wide range of score changes for teams on the day

1	Yellow_Knight	113 (Vingegaard & Ciccone, but Gee)
2	Peixotini	106 (Ciccone, Rodriguez and Cras, but Mas)
3	Kazistuta	96 (Ciccone, Roglic & Cras)
4	Search	93(Ciccone, Gall, Roglic & Cras, but Gee)
5	DJSprtsch	89
6	Salvarani	88
7	ArchieBoy	87
8	Evans_is_the_Best	76
9	Rufs	72
10	Madrazo	67
11	Hfgon1	51
12	Lecko	50
12	Titan31	50
14	Triley36	49
15	Scrooll07	40
16	Queen_Stagiaire	39
17	Vladimir	36
18	BluesInTheBottle	31
18	JumboVismaFan	31
20	Anderis	25
21	Sam6	21
22	Del1962	19
23	SamuCuenca	17
24	Googolplex	16
25	Ingsve	3
25	Laarsland	3
27	DJW	0
28	SlowClimber	-5
29	Josedin	-6
30	BicycleBoy	-8
31	Devils_Elbow	-14
32	Armchair_Cyclist	-25
33	18_Valve	-27
34	AmisVelo	-32
35	RedheadDane	-33
36	LosBrolin	-37
37	Leadbelly	-41
38	Gotland	-45
39	ZigZagWanderer	-48
	Collective_Wisdom	85
	Pog_vs_the_World	103

Among the losses are the first DNFs affecting the game this time. All our riders have 20 points at least for GC, as finishing the Tour gives 20 CQ points, regardless of position. Those of us who have Wright, Declercq and/or Izagirre lose that 20 points for each of them, but retain any stage points they have (Wright has 3 from stage 8)
Standings

More movement than we have seen for a while: Scrool returns to the top (Scrool07 is something of a legacy name in the game: he now posts as @nbfc1962 ), Triley and Lecko into the top ten, I continue to plummet.

1	Scrooll07	1230	1
2	Anderis	1228	-1
3	Search	1219	0
4	Queen_Stagiaire	1126	0
5	Kazistuta	1125	1
6	Yellow_Knight	1106	2
7	Madrazo	1104	-2
8	Hfgon1	1034	1
9	Triley36	1021	2
10	Lecko	1016	2
11	DJW	977	-1
12	Gotland	961	-5
13	BicycleBoy	958	-1
14	Peixotini	947	8
15	Devils_Elbow	915	-1
16	BluesInTheBottle	901	2
17	18_Valve	887	-1
18	Vladimir	882	3
19	Leadbelly	875	-4
20	Armchair_Cyclist	864	-3
21	ArchieBoy	858	4
22	SlowClimber	853	-2
23	Googolplex	839	1
24	Josedin	831	-1
25	LosBrolin	827	-6
26	Evans_is_the_Best	810	0
27	Titan31	768	1
28	Salvarani	766	3
29	DJSprtsch	740	8
29	SamuCuenca	740	-2
31	Rufs	734	2
32	Laarsland	714	-3
33	Sam6	703	-3
34	JumboVismaFan	686	1
35	Del1962	674	0
36	Ingsve	661	-2
37	ZigZagWanderer	618	-5
38	AmisVelo	600	0
39	RedheadDane	334	0
	Collective_Wisdom	1090
	Pog_vs_the_World	1208

QueenStagiaire · Jul 11, 2024

Why did I do this to myself and select Roglič?

Anderis · Jul 11, 2024

QueenStagiaire said:
Why did I do this to myself and select Roglič?

I personally don't regret selecting Roglic. At least I was leading for a while. It was fun while it lasted.

Samu Cuenca · Jul 11, 2024

My 1989 team definitely won't win now.

RedheadDane · Jul 11, 2024

SKA OTL, possibly because he was sent down to help Rickaert...

And that's bad both for this, and for the Main Game...

Armchair Cyclist · Jul 11, 2024

The ten Roglic teams included the top 5, plus those in 7th, 10th and 12th.

Plus Samu and I somewhat farther back...

Armchair Cyclist · Jul 11, 2024

Stage 12
Big sprint, GC guy crashes and loses time: it's just like week 1 used to be.

Green points
Anyone regretting not having bought him at 768 points yet?

GIRMAY HAILU Biniam	80	0
VAN AERT Wout	50	0
ACKERMANN Pascal	35	2
PHILIPSEN Jasper	25	0
DE LIE Arnaud	15	0
KRISTOFF Alexander	10	0
BAUHAUS Phil	5	5
COQUARD Bryan	3	1
GROENEWEGEN Dylan	2	0
GIBBONS Ryan	1	1

and again Kazistuta!

1	Kazistuta	40
2	Search	35
3	DJSprtsch	5
3	Josedin	5
3	Lecko	5
3	Peixotini	5
7	ArchieBoy	3
8	AmisVelo	1

Standings
Of these, Kaz, Search and Lecko scored today

1	Kazistuta	433	0
2	Search	325	3
3	Anderis	316	-1
4	Scrooll07	315	-1
4	SlowClimber	315	-1
6	Queen_Stagiaire	268	0
7	Lecko	260	0
8	Yellow_Knight	252	0
9	Madrazo	241	0
10	Gotland	228	0

Yellow points

More gains and losses because of Roglic and Jakobsen's misfortunes than positive results.

ACKERMANN Pascal	35	2
ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves	30	3
RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos	30	16
COQUARD Bryan	8	1
BAUHAUS Phil	5	5
OLIVEIRA Nelson Filipe Santos Simoes	5	1
VAN DEN BROEK Frank	5	1

VERVAEKE Louis	-5	1
YATES Simon	-6	5
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando	-10	5
JAKOBSEN Fabio	-20	7
KRAGH ANDERSEN Søren	-20	1
MØRKØV CHRISTENSEN Michael	-20	1
ROGLIC Primoz	-60	10

1	ArchieBoy	39
2	Josedin	35
2	Peixotini	35
4	LosBrolin	32
4	Vladimir	32
6	BicycleBoy	30
6	BluesInTheBottle	30
6	Devils_Elbow	30
6	Googolplex	30
6	Hfgon1	30
6	JumboVismaFan	30
6	Rufs	30
13	Evans_is_the_Best	28
14	Laarsland	14
15	DJSprtsch	13
16	DJW	12
17	Triley36	10
18	Titan31	1
19	Leadbelly	0
19	Salvarani	0
21	AmisVelo	-3
22	Ingsve	-5
23	Del1962	-6
23	Sam6	-6
23	ZigZagWanderer	-6
26	18_Valve	-16
27	Yellow_Knight	-20
28	Search	-25
29	RedheadDane	-27
30	SlowClimber	-31
31	Kazistuta	-32
32	Anderis	-38
33	Scrooll07	-40
34	Lecko	-55
34	Queen_Stagiaire	-55
34	SamuCuenca	-55
37	Armchair_Cyclist	-58
38	Gotland	-78
38	Madrazo	-78
	Collective_Wisdom	32
	Pog_vs_the_World	0

Standings
most of us move a bit, @search getting the most significant change at the top. Roglic teams hang on to the top 4 places, but what will happen in the morning?

1	Search	1194	2
2	Scrooll07	1190	-1
3	Anderis	1190	-1
4	Kazistuta	1093	1
5	Yellow_Knight	1086	1
6	Queen_Stagiaire	1071	-2
7	Hfgon1	1064	1
8	Triley36	1031	1
9	Madrazo	1026	-2
10	DJW	989	1
11	BicycleBoy	988	2
12	Peixotini	982	2
13	Lecko	961	-3
14	Devils_Elbow	945	1
15	BluesInTheBottle	931	1
16	Vladimir	914	2
17	ArchieBoy	897	4
18	Gotland	883	-6
19	Leadbelly	875	0
20	18_Valve	871	-3
21	Googolplex	869	2
22	Josedin	866	2
23	LosBrolin	859	2
24	Evans_is_the_Best	838	2
25	SlowClimber	822	-3
26	Armchair_Cyclist	806	-6
27	Titan31	769	0
28	Salvarani	766	0
29	Rufs	764	2
30	DJSprtsch	753	-1
31	Laarsland	728	1
32	JumboVismaFan	716	2
33	Sam6	697	0
34	SamuCuenca	685	-5
35	Del1962	668	0
36	Ingsve	656	0
37	ZigZagWanderer	612	0
38	AmisVelo	597	0
39	RedheadDane	307	0
	Collective_Wisdom	1122
	Pog_vs_the_World	1208

Armchair Cyclist · Jul 12, 2024

Roglic withdrawing is a blow for the race, and a serious blow to ten teams here. Apart of course from not getting any future points, he loses 262 points that he had from his GC and mountains classifications placings.

Every cloud has a silver rainstorm* for someone else:

LANDA MEANA Mikel	30	1
CICCONE Giulio	20	17
GEE Derek	20	26
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley	10	5
BUITRAGO SANCHEZ Santiago	10	11
GALL Felix	10	12
JORGENSON Matteo	10	10

The ten Roglic teams lose between 204 and 237 points each, Leadbelly is the one who gains most, with 66 (although Collective Wisdom gets 67)

The effective top ten this morning:

1	Yellow_Knight	1128	4
2	Hfgon1	1122	5
3	Triley36	1088	5
4	DJW	1044	6
5	BicycleBoy	1036	6
6	Peixotini	1025	6
7	Search	990	-6
8	Devils_Elbow	989	6
9	BluesInTheBottle	972	6
10	Vladimir	962	6

Of the 6 Pogacar teams that were in that elite last night, only Search survives.

Of the putative top 5, Yellow Knight is lead by Vingegaard, Hfgon by Almeida, and the next three by Rodriguez, backed with Hindley, Jorgensen and Bernal respectively.

We are better collectively than individually: the Collective Wisdom team would be out front with 1189. But even if we had the extra 417 points in the budget, how many of us would actually reach the 1208 of Pogacar + the seven cheapest riders?

*:not necessarily a meteorological fact, don't come moaning to me if you spend the day standing under some cumulus with a bucket and come away none the wealthier

Armchair Cyclist · Jul 12, 2024

And with Ayuso out as well, the advantage swings towards Hfgon. And if Yates were to take enough today to catch Rodriguez on GC, that aids the top two even more.

Armchair Cyclist · Jul 12, 2024

Stage 13
Nearly lots of change, but it turned out that most of the bad luck represented in the stage 13 results happened before it.

Green points
fewer than ever...

PHILIPSEN Jasper	80	0
VAN AERT Wout	50	0
ACKERMANN Pascal	35	2
GIRMAY HAILU Biniam	25	0
ARNDT Nikias	15	1
STUYVEN Jasper	10	0
RUSSO Clément	5	1
COQUARD Bryan	3	1
POGACAR Tadej	2	0
WAERENSKJOLD Søren	1	0

1	Kazistuta	35
1	Search	35
3	Scrooll07	15
4	Josedin	5
5	ArchieBoy	3

and Pogacar and his mates got 7 points (One of his teammates gives something other than on schedule to complete points: Russo got 5)

Standings
Kazistuta, Search and Scrooll were already 1st, 2nd and 4th, so gap between first two the same, and Scrooll into 4th.

Yellow points
This was one of those days when who does or does not finish (or even start) makes far more difference to the game than the stage result.

CICCONE Giulio	40	17
GEE Derek	40	26
ACKERMANN Pascal	38	2
JORGENSON Matteo	30	10
LANDA MEANA Mikel	30	1
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley	20	5
BUITRAGO SANCHEZ Santiago	20	11
GALL Felix	20	12
HEALY Ben	17	3
ARNDT Nikias	15	1
HAIG Jack	15	13
CRAS Steff	12	7
HINDLEY Jai	11	3

MEINTJES Louis	-8	18
MAS NICOLAU Enric	-9	10
HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus	-20	1
ROGLIC Primoz	-262	10

Nobody had picked Ayuso, but plenty gained points from willing the GC spot he vacated.

1	Leadbelly	133
2	DJW	125
3	Sam6	123
4	18_Valve	119
4	Hfgon1	119
6	Titan31	115
7	Triley36	103
8	SlowClimber	102
9	ArchieBoy	98
10	Josedin	95
10	ZigZagWanderer	95
12	BicycleBoy	89
13	Del1962	85
14	Devils_Elbow	84
15	Googolplex	73
16	Yellow_Knight	72
17	BluesInTheBottle	68
18	AmisVelo	62
18	LosBrolin	62
20	Peixotini	55
21	Laarsland	53
22	Vladimir	50
23	Ingsve	44
24	RedheadDane	36
25	Rufs	32
26	DJSprtsch	23
27	Evans_is_the_Best	17
28	JumboVismaFan	0
29	Salvarani	-17
30	Search	-120
31	Madrazo	-153
32	Queen_Stagiaire	-170
33	Kazistuta	-173
34	Gotland	-183
35	Lecko	-190
36	Armchair_Cyclist	-197
37	Scrooll07	-198
38	Anderis	-208
39	SamuCuenca	-226
	Collective_Wisdom	127
	Pog_vs_the_World	25

Standings
As per this morning's calculations, of the Roglic teams only Search remains in the top ten. @hfgon1 , with a team founded on Almeida, Ciccone and Gee, is the new leader. Yellow Knight is in second, while the other team that has Vingegaard, Giro winner Salvarani, is in 31st: that shows the importance of the secondary and tertiary picks (Ciccone and Gee over Mas and Gaudu)

1	Hfgon1	1183	6
2	Yellow_Knight	1158	3
3	Triley36	1134	5
4	DJW	1114	6
5	BicycleBoy	1077	6
6	Search	1074	-5
7	Peixotini	1037	5
8	Devils_Elbow	1029	6
9	Leadbelly	1008	10
10	BluesInTheBottle	999	5
11	ArchieBoy	995	6
12	Scrooll07	992	-10
13	18_Valve	990	7
14	Anderis	982	-11
15	Vladimir	964	1
16	Josedin	961	6
17	Googolplex	942	4
18	SlowClimber	924	7
19	LosBrolin	921	4
20	Kazistuta	920	-16
21	Queen_Stagiaire	901	-15
22	Titan31	884	5
23	Madrazo	873	-14
24	Evans_is_the_Best	855	0
25	Sam6	820	8
26	Rufs	796	3
27	Laarsland	781	4
28	DJSprtsch	776	2
29	Lecko	771	-16
30	Del1962	753	5
31	Salvarani	749	-3
32	JumboVismaFan	716	0
33	ZigZagWanderer	707	4
34	Gotland	700	-16
34	Ingsve	700	2
36	AmisVelo	659	2
37	Armchair_Cyclist	609	-11
38	SamuCuenca	459	-4
39	RedheadDane	343	0
	Collective_Wisdom	1249
	Pog_vs_the_World	1233

How will the Pyrenees upset our teams?

EvansIsTheBest · Jul 12, 2024

Pretty impressive to not gain any spot considering I didn't pick Roglic.

RedheadDane · Jul 12, 2024

Nice to be in the "gains point" group.

hfgon1 · Jul 13, 2024

Havent had a look here for some days. Quite surprised I'm in the lead right now as one of my expensive picks with Sam Bennett was nearly a no show and I still havent understood the point regulations of this game.

Dont think I will be able to keep this rank but rooting for Gee, Ciccone, Almeida, Haig, Buitrago and Carapaz is on now again...

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