2025 Spring Classics CQ game

Armchair Cyclist · Mar 1, 2025

Other special teams
You'll notice two other special teams after Collective Wisdom. There are two 'cheat lists' that one might use to build a team here: the points gained in these same races last year, and the popularity of the riders among participants in Skidmark's season long game.

For the Good Last Year team, there were two within budget combinations that (while omitting those who are unlikely to race much, if at all, in this series) gave the maximum score of points in these events in 2024:
STEIMLE Jannik
EDVARDSEN-FREDHEIM Stian
MALECKI Kamil
POLITT Nils
VAN GESTEL Dries
NORSGAARD Mathias
JARNET Maxime
VAN GILS Maxim
were common to both, but the numbers could be made up by either
GOOSSENS Kobe
TEUNS Dylan
and one of
KRIEGER Alexander
LÜHRS Luis-Joe
VANDEVELDE Yentl
(an 11 man team costing 2999: any one pointer didn't score in these events last year, so doesn't belong in this team)

or the final 4 places could be filled by
DESAL Cériel
CONSONNI Simone
and two out of the Krieger/Luhrs/Vandevelde tie.

So I have set it up so that the better of those will display.
These riders were not widely picked (only Teuns more than 3 times), but some of our teams seem to have paid some attention to points gathered in these races last time around:

1	DJW	1184
2	Blues_in_the_Bottle	1156
3	Ruvu	1104
4	DevilsElbow	1079
5	NBFC1962	1066
6	EvansIsTheBest	1059
7	SlowClimber	957
8	LosBrolin	926
9	Rufs	913
10	Madrazo	855
11	DJSprtsch	829
12	Hfgon1	806
13	Vladimir	781
14	Search	775
15	Ingsve	766
16	Shakes	750
17	Peixotini	732
18	Abbulf	702
19	QueenStagiare	698
20	Triley36	691
21	Kazistuta	667
22	AmisVelo	657
23	Del1962	648
24	Ray10	644
25	Leadbelly	609
26	Laarsland	593
27	Josedin	544
28	RedheadDane	503
29	Bminchow	485
30	JonEzeitza	451
31	Armchair	419
32	Onizuka	394
33	SamuCuenca	252
	CollectiveWisdom	672
	SoLastYear	2250
	MainGamePop	385

Many of those who were popular picks in the Main game will not expect to get many of their season points in this set of races, so the top twelve as a team may not score well, but they will be listed anyway:

UIJTDEBROEKS Cian
VAN BAARLE Dylan
VERMEERSCH Florian
PHILIPSEN Albert Withen
GEOGHEGAN HART Tao
KRON Andreas Lorentz
TORRES ARIAS Pablo
SEIXAS Paul
KÄMNA Lennard
GLOAG Thomas
VAN AERT Wout
HAYTER Ethan

But it's probably fair to say that if a rider is good value for the main game, and has these races as a target, he could be good value here. Whether by accident or design, some of our teams have a high count of main game picks:

1	EvansIsTheBest	514
2	Abbulf	501
3	DevilsElbow	455
4	Laarsland	454
5	Madrazo	450
6	Kazistuta	435
6	Ray10	435
8	Triley36	429
9	Bminchow	409
10	Ruvu	402
11	Ingsve	397
12	Del1962	391
13	DJSprtsch	377
14	Rufs	375
15	DJW	373
16	AmisVelo	364
17	JonEzeitza	333
18	Armchair	329
19	Peixotini	325
20	Hfgon1	317
21	QueenStagiare	310
22	Leadbelly	309
23	Search	306
24	Onizuka	290
25	SlowClimber	289
26	Shakes	269
27	Josedin	232
28	SamuCuenca	214
29	LosBrolin	204
30	Vladimir	200
31	Blues_in_the_Bottle	102
32	RedheadDane	99
33	NBFC1962	81
	CollectiveWisdom	526
	SoLastYear	13
	MainGamePop	821

Armchair Cyclist · Mar 1, 2025

What I hadn't noticed as teams came in (and I probably should have: I'm sure I have at least one of the spreadsheets set up to highlight duplicates in team lists) is that NBFC1962 had included Alexis Renard in his team twice. As I had confirmed the team to him, I accepted partial responsibility, so when he pointed it out (after the reveal) I offered him a chance to substitute in another rider so long as it was a unique pick (ie, not taking advantage of the reveal). So he now has STEIMLE Jannik. It's a less generous solution than I offered someone else in the Women's CQ game a few weeks ago, and I hope it is agreeable to all. I'll edit the reveal posts later.

Armchair Cyclist · Mar 1, 2025

Let's deal with the main event first:
Race 1: Omloop

The riders that were selected for the game (so Waerenskjold, inter alia, not listed here)

Race Pos'n		Pts	Teams
2	MAGNIER Paul	108	14
4	VAN MOER Brent	78	1 (Redhead Dane)
9	VAN DEN BERG Marijn	40	1 (Search)
10	ASKEY Lewis	36	1 (Vladimir)
11	VAN AERT Wout	30	19
14	RENARD Alexis	22	2
15	VACEK Mathias	20	4
16	LIVYNS Arjen	18	1
18	TEUNISSEN Mike	14	1
19	STEWART Jake	12	1
21	NAESEN Oliver	10	1
25	VAN DIJKE Mick	6	2

Apart from Rufs (Magnier, Vacek, Van Dijke), the top ten are all scoring via Magnier, Van Aert, and a varying number of five pointers.

1	AmisVelo	173	65
1	Peixotini	173	65
3	Madrazo	168	35
4	Abbulf	163	20
4	Del1962	163	20
6	Rufs	154	10
7	Ray10	148	5
8	JonEzeitza	143	3
9	Josedin	138	2
10	Bminchow	128	0.5
10	Leadbelly	128	0.5
12	Onizuka	123	0
13	Armchair	118	0
14	SamuCuenca	108	0
14	Vladimir	108	0
16	RedheadDane	103	0
17	Blues_in_the_Bottle	87	0
18	DJSprtsch	74	0
19	Ruvu	70	0
20	DevilsElbow	65	0
20	Search	65	0
22	Ingsve	61	0
23	NBFC1962	57	0
24	DJW	55	0
24	Hfgon1	55	0
24	Kazistuta	55	0
24	Laarsland	55	0
28	EvansIsTheBest	50	0
28	Shakes	50	0
28	SlowClimber	50	0
31	LosBrolin	48	0
32	Triley36	45	0
33	QueenStagiare	40	0
	CollectiveWisdom	161
	SoLastYear	20
	MainGamePop	35

The last column there are the points for the minor classification, the Green Jersey. Points to managers of the top ten teams, in the same scale of points as CQ uses for stages in the Tour de France (80-50-35-25-15-10-5-3-2-1), shared in the case of a tie (as here).

RedheadDane · Mar 1, 2025

Somehow... I'd completely forgotten that I have Van Moer...

QueenStagiaire · Mar 1, 2025

Tim Van Dijke had been missing from the results but actually finished 15th, has this already been updated in the game? @Armchair Cyclist

Armchair Cyclist · Mar 1, 2025

Race 2: Faun Ardeche

Or was it another stage of Tour of Algarve?

Race Pos'n		Pts	Teams
5	SCARONI Christian	52	9
11	BARRE Louis	20	1 (Samu Cuenca)
14	TULETT Ben	14	14
19	BAGIOLI Andrea	7	10
20	JEGAT Jordan	6	1
25	SVESTAD-BAARDSENG Embret	5	2

Samu Cuenca's team was one of the more eclectic, but it has come up trumps here: one of 5 teams that had both Scaroni and Tulett, but also had Barre as a unique pick

1	SamuCuenca	86	80
2	Bminchow	66	31.25
2	Ingsve	66	31.25
2	Laarsland	66	31.25
2	Ray10	66	31.25
6	Leadbelly	64	10
7	Hfgon1	59	5
8	LosBrolin	57	3
9	Josedin	52	2
10	DevilsElbow	21	0.33
10	DJSprtsch	21	0.33
10	EvansIsTheBest	21	0.33
13	AmisVelo	14	0
13	Del1962	14	0
13	Kazistuta	14	0
13	Madrazo	14	0
13	Rufs	14	0
13	Search	14	0
19	Abbulf	7	0
19	Armchair	7	0
19	QueenStagiare	7	0
19	SlowClimber	7	0
19	Triley36	7	0
24	RedheadDane	6	0
	CollectiveWisdom	73

If your team isn't listed, it's because they didn't score anything. There may be races on the schedule where that is the case for nearly all of us.

Standings

Green points
I will normally only put up the top ten in this category, but for first day, here is everyone that has got off the mark

1	SamuCuenca	80
2	AmisVelo	65
2	Peixotini	65
4	Ray10	36.25
5	Madrazo	35
6	Bminchow	31.75
7	Ingsve	31.25
7	Laarsland	31.25
9	Abbulf	20
9	Del1962	20
11	Leadbelly	10.5
12	Rufs	10
13	Hfgon1	5
14	Josedin	4
15	JonEzeitza	3
15	LosBrolin	3
17	DevilsElbow	0.33
17	DJSprtsch	0.33
17	EvansIsTheBest	0.33

Overall:
There were 4 times as many points scored in the Omloop than Ardeche today, so these rankings are weighted to that result (all races carry equal weight in the green jersey competition, at least in part in the hope that one team won't dominate both).

1	Ray10	214	(+6)
2	Bminchow	194	(+8)
2	SamuCuenca	194	(+12)
4	Leadbelly	192	(+6)
5	Josedin	190	(+4)
6	AmisVelo	187	(-5)
7	Madrazo	182	(-4)
8	Del1962	177	(-4)
9	Peixotini	173	(-8)
10	Abbulf	170	(-6)
11	Rufs	168	(-5)
12	JonEzeitza	143	(-4)
13	Ingsve	127	(+9)
14	Armchair	125	(-1)
15	Onizuka	123	(-3)
16	Laarsland	121	(+8)
17	Hfgon1	114	(+7)
18	RedheadDane	109	(-2)
19	Vladimir	108	(-5)
20	LosBrolin	105	(+11)
21	DJSprtsch	95	(-3)
22	Blues_in_the_Bottle	87	(-5)
23	DevilsElbow	86	(-3)
24	Search	79	(-4)
25	EvansIsTheBest	71	(+3)
26	Ruvu	70	(-7)
27	Kazistuta	69	(-3)
28	NBFC1962	57	(-5)
28	SlowClimber	57	(-)
30	DJW	55	(-6)
31	Triley36	52	(+1)
32	Shakes	50	(-4)
33	QueenStagiare	47	(-)
	CollectiveWisdom	234
	SoLastYear	25
	MainGamePop	35

2 more races tomorrow

Armchair Cyclist · Mar 1, 2025

QueenStagiaire said:
Tim Van Dijke had been missing from the results but actually finished 15th, has this already been updated in the game? @Armchair Cyclist

Oh [blast]

So 4 teams have Tim Van Dijk, who got 20 points, but 4 teams with Vacek, 1 each with Livyns, Teunissen, Stewart and 2 with, ironically, Mick van Dijk lose places and points. In some cases, the same teams, so the net changes are

DJW	20
Ingsve	19
QueenStagiare	19
Rufs	17
Vladimir	-1
JonEzeitza	-2
Josedin	-2
Blues_in_the_Bottle	-2
DJSprtsch	-2
LosBrolin	-2

That in turn means that moves up from 6th to 3rd in this race, displacing Madrazo, Abbulf and Del, with the resultant changes in green points.

Rufs	25
Abbulf	-7.5
Del1962	-7.5
Madrazo	-10

So the adjusted tables are

Green

1	SamuCuenca	80
2	AmisVelo	65
2	Peixotini	65
4	Ray10	36.25
5	Rufs	35
6	Bminchow	31.75
7	Ingsve	31.25
7	Laarsland	31.25
9	Madrazo	25
10	Abbulf	12.5
10	Del1962	12.5
12	Leadbelly	10.5
13	Hfgon1	5
14	Josedin	4
15	JonEzeitza	3
15	LosBrolin	3
17	DevilsElbow	0.33
17	DJSprtsch	0.33
17	EvansIsTheBest	0.33

Main

1	Ray10	214
2	Bminchow	194
2	SamuCuenca	194
4	Leadbelly	192
5	Josedin	188
6	AmisVelo	187
7	Rufs	185
8	Madrazo	182
9	Del1962	177
10	Peixotini	173
11	Abbulf	170
12	Ingsve	146
13	JonEzeitza	141
14	Armchair	125
15	Onizuka	123
16	Laarsland	121
17	Hfgon1	114
18	RedheadDane	109
19	Vladimir	107
20	LosBrolin	103
21	DJSprtsch	93
22	DevilsElbow	86
23	Blues_in_the_Bottle	85
24	Search	79
25	DJW	75
26	EvansIsTheBest	71
27	Ruvu	70
28	Kazistuta	69
29	QueenStagiare	66
30	NBFC1962	57
30	SlowClimber	57
32	Triley36	52
33	Shakes	50

Note to self: wait until CQ remove the provisional disclaimer before you process a race's results.

Shakes · Mar 2, 2025

For the fans, teams are all online @ https://www.savius.at/CQGame/cqgame.php?GameId=2

Similarity of teams @ https://www.savius.at/CQGame/cqgame.php?page=RandomStats&GameId=2 as well as the most popular riders.

https://www.savius.at/CQGame/cqgame.php?page=ComboSearch&GameId=2 for finding players with a certain selection of riders.

Enjoy!

(and I am last already... Grmbl!)

Armchair Cyclist · Mar 2, 2025

Race 3: Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne

This event gets a higher profile than almost any other 1.Pro race. It's effect on this game is not the reason.

As so often in sprint finishes, the highest placed riders are not deemed good value by the managers here.

4th	MARIT Arne	58 pts	1 team
7	VAN DEN BERG Marijn	40	1
16	ASKEY Lewis	10	1
18	WRIGHT Fred	8	2
21	NAESEN Oliver	5	1
22	GARCIA CORTINA Ivan	5	3
26	REINDERS Elmar	5	1
29	TEUNISSEN Mike	5	1

		Points	Green pts
1	SlowClimber	58	80
2	Search	40	50
3	Blues_in_the_Bottle	13	35
4	Vladimir	10	25
5	LosBrolin	8	15
6	DJSprtsch	5	4.25
6	Peixotini	5	4.25
6	QueenStagiare	5	4.25
6	RedheadDane	5	4.25
6	Ruvu	5	4.25

Standings
Green

1	SamuCuenca	80	(-)
1	SlowClimber	80	(+19)
3	Peixotini	69.25	(-1)
4	AmisVelo	65	(-2)
5	Search	50	(+15)
6	Ray10	36.25	(-2)
7	Blues_in_the_Bottle	35	(+13)
7	Rufs	35	(-2)
9	Bminchow	31.75	(-3)
10	Ingsve	31.25	(-3)
10	Laarsland	31.25	(-3)

Overall
Blues in the Bottle scored in this race, without improving his position at all. Peixotini is the only one in the top 18 after 2 events to score in the third one.

1	Ray10	214	(-)
2	Bminchow	194	(-)
2	SamuCuenca	194	(-)
4	Leadbelly	192	(-)
5	Josedin	188	(-)
6	AmisVelo	187	(-)
7	Rufs	185	(-)
8	Madrazo	182	(-)
9	Peixotini	178	(+1)
10	Del1962	177	(-1)
11	Abbulf	170	(-)
12	Ingsve	146	(-)
13	JonEzeitza	141	(-)
14	Armchair	125	(-)
15	Onizuka	123	(-)
16	Laarsland	121	(-)
17	Search	119	(+7)
18	Vladimir	117	(+1)
19	SlowClimber	115	(+11)
20	Hfgon1	114	(-3)
20	RedheadDane	114	(-2)
22	LosBrolin	111	(-2)
23	Blues_in_the_Bottle	98	(-)
23	DJSprtsch	98	(-2)
25	DevilsElbow	86	(-3)
26	DJW	75	(-1)
26	Ruvu	75	(+1)
28	EvansIsTheBest	71	(-2)
28	QueenStagiare	71	(+1)
30	Kazistuta	69	(-2)
31	NBFC1962	57	(-1)
32	Triley36	52	(-)
33	Shakes	50	(-)
	CollectiveWisdom	234
	SoLastYear	25
	MainGamePop	35

Armchair Cyclist · Mar 2, 2025

Race 4: Drome Classic
more than 10 times as many points won in France than in Belgium today:

Race Pos'n		Pts	Teams
3	TULETT Ben	66	14
5	BAGIOLI Andrea	52	10
8	SIMMONS Quinn	34	4
17	BARRE Louis	9	1
28	SVESTAD-BAARDSENG Embret	5	2
30	HEALY Ben	5	1

Tullett has probably already done enough to get into the best possible team at the end of the game, given his 27 point cost.

Three teams combine the two top five finishers that were picked.

1	DevilsElbow	118	55
1	DJSprtsch	118	55
1	EvansIsTheBest	118	55
4	Bminchow	100	20
4	Del1962	100	20
6	Triley36	86	10
7	SamuCuenca	80	5
8	AmisVelo	66	0.75
8	Ingsve	66	0.75
8	Kazistuta	66	0.75
8	Laarsland	66	0.75
8	Madrazo	66	0.75
8	Ray10	66	0.75
8	Rufs	66	0.75
8	Search	66	0.75
16	Leadbelly	57
17	Abbulf	52
17	Armchair	52
17	Hfgon1	52
17	QueenStagiare	52
17	SlowClimber	52
22	Shakes	34
23	LosBrolin	5
	CollectiveWisdom	118

Standings
Green

1	SamuCuenca	85	(-)
2	SlowClimber	80	(-1)
3	Peixotini	69.25	(-)
4	AmisVelo	65.75	(-)
5	DJSprtsch	59.58	(+14)
6	DevilsElbow	55.33	(+19)
6	EvansIsTheBest	55.33	(+19)
8	Bminchow	51.75	(+1)
9	Search	50.75	(-4)
10	Ray10	37	(-4)

Overall

1	Bminchow	294	(+1)
2	Ray10	280	(-1)
3	Del1962	277	(+7)
4	SamuCuenca	274	(-2)
5	AmisVelo	253	(+1)
6	Rufs	251	(+1)
7	Leadbelly	249	(-3)
8	Madrazo	248	(-)
9	Abbulf	222	(+2)
10	DJSprtsch	216	(+13)
11	Ingsve	212	(+1)
12	DevilsElbow	204	(+13)
13	EvansIsTheBest	189	(+15)
14	Josedin	188	(-9)
15	Laarsland	187	(+1)
16	Search	185	(+1)
17	Peixotini	178	(-8)
18	Armchair	177	(-4)
19	SlowClimber	167	(-)
20	Hfgon1	166	(-)
21	JonEzeitza	141	(-8)
22	Triley36	138	(+10)
23	Kazistuta	135	(+7)
24	Onizuka	123	(-9)
24	QueenStagiare	123	(+4)
26	Vladimir	117	(-8)
27	LosBrolin	116	(-5)
28	RedheadDane	114	(-8)
29	Blues_in_the_Bottle	98	(-6)
30	Shakes	84	(+3)
31	DJW	75	(-5)
31	Ruvu	75	(-5)
33	NBFC1962	57	(-2)
	CollectiveWisdom	352
	SoLastYear	25
	MainGamePop	35

Le Samyn, unfortunately, is still not of 1.Pro status, but Laigueglia is, so let's reconvene on Wednesday evening.

Shakes · Mar 4, 2025

Only now see I accidentally picked Lamperti instead of Magnier. Oops! Was happy with results until I realized my blunder. Doing it in a hurry without double checking, ouch.

Armchair Cyclist · Mar 5, 2025

Race 5 Trofeo Laigueglia

Race Pos'n		Pts	Teams
2	SCARONI Christian	78	9
8	BARRE Louis	34	1
13	KWIATKOWSKI Michal	16	6
25	MORGADO Antonio Tomas	5	22
26	RYAN Archie	5	2
28	JEGAT Jordan	5	1

Samu is top for the second time, both times with Louis Barre making the difference.

1	SamuCuenca	112	80
2	Leadbelly	99	50
3	Bminchow	83	15.5
3	Hfgon1	83	15.5
3	Ingsve	83	15.5
3	Josedin	83	15.5
3	LosBrolin	83	15.5
3	Ray10	83	15.5
9	Laarsland	78	2
10	Peixotini	21	0.5
10	Triley36	21	0.5
12	Rufs	16
12	SlowClimber	16
12	Vladimir	16
15	Kazistuta	10
15	RedheadDane	10
17	12 teams with one of the 5 pointers	5
	CollectiveWisdom	83

Standings

Green

I might have to rename this the Louis Barre Trophy

1	SamuCuenca	165	(-)
2	SlowClimber	80	(-)
3	Peixotini	69.75	(-)
4	Bminchow	67.25	(+4)
5	AmisVelo	65.75	(-1)
6	Leadbelly	60.5	(+14)
7	DJSprtsch	59.58	(-2)
8	DevilsElbow	55.33	(-2)
8	EvansIsTheBest	55.33	(-2)
10	Ray10	52.5	(-)

Overall
A rare situation: the team lowest in the popularity rankings is in the lead:

1	SamuCuenca	386	(+3)
2	Bminchow	377	(-1)
3	Ray10	363	(-1)
4	Leadbelly	348	(+3)
5	Ingsve	295	(+6)
6	Del1962	282	(-3)
7	Josedin	271	(+7)
8	Rufs	267	(-2)
9	Laarsland	265	(+6)
10	AmisVelo	258	(-5)
11	Madrazo	253	(-3)
12	Hfgon1	249	(+8)
13	Abbulf	227	(-4)
14	DJSprtsch	216	(-4)
15	DevilsElbow	209	(-3)
16	LosBrolin	199	(+11)
16	Peixotini	199	(+1)
18	EvansIsTheBest	194	(-5)
19	Search	185	(-3)
20	SlowClimber	183	(-1)
21	Armchair	182	(-3)
22	Triley36	159	(-)
23	JonEzeitza	146	(-2)
24	Kazistuta	145	(-1)
25	Vladimir	133	(+1)
26	Onizuka	128	(-2)
26	QueenStagiare	128	(-2)
28	RedheadDane	124	(-)
29	Blues_in_the_Bottle	98	(-)
30	Shakes	84	(-)
31	DJW	80	(-)
32	Ruvu	75	(-1)
33	NBFC1962	62	(-)
	CollectiveWisdom	435
	SoLastYear	25
	MainGamePop	35

We keep our attention of Italy for our next event: Strade Bianche on Saturday.

Armchair Cyclist · Mar 9, 2025

Race 6 Strade Bianche

Race Pos'n		Pts	Teams
2	PIDCOCK Thomas	132	6
4	HEALY Ben	96	1
15	HERMANS Quinten	24	1
17	LABROSSE Jordan	19	2
18	VERMEERSCH Florian	18	30
19	ASKEY Lewis	17	1
25	PHILIPSEN Albert Withen	11	8

and six 5 pointers

1	LosBrolin	179	Pidcock, Labrosse, Vermeersch and 2 fivers	80
2	Search	160	Pidcock, Vermeersch, 2 fivers	50
3	EvansIsTheBest	155	as above, one fiver	30
3	Rufs	155		30
5	SlowClimber	150	no fivers	15
6	NBFC1962	137	Pidcock, one fiver	10
7	SamuCuenca	106	Healy, 2 fivers	5
8	Leadbelly	42		2.5
8	RedheadDane	42		2.5
10	Vladimir	40		1
11	Ruvu	39
12	Laarsland	34
12	Ray10	34
12	Triley36	34
15	Madrazo	33
16	Abbulf	29
16	DJW	29
16	JonEzeitza	29
19	AmisVelo	28
19	Bminchow	28
19	DevilsElbow	28
19	Ingsve	28
19	Kazistuta	28
24	Blues_in_the_Bottle	23
24	Del1962	23
24	DJSprtsch	23
24	Onizuka	23
28	Armchair	18
28	Hfgon1	18
28	Peixotini	18
28	QueenStagiare	18
28	Shakes	18
33	Josedin	11
	CollectiveWisdom	31
	SoLastYear	0
	MainGamePop	29

Standings
Green

1	SamuCuenca	170	(-)
2	LosBrolin	113.5	(+14)
3	Search	100.75	(+8)
4	SlowClimber	95	(-2)
5	EvansIsTheBest	85.33	(+3)
6	Peixotini	69.75	(-3)
7	Bminchow	67.25	(-3)
8	AmisVelo	65.75	(-3)
8	Rufs	65.75	(+5)
10	Leadbelly	63	(-4)

Overall

1	SamuCuenca	492	(-)
2	Rufs	422	(+6)
3	Bminchow	405	(-1)
4	Ray10	397	(-1)
5	Leadbelly	390	(-1)
6	LosBrolin	378	(+10)
7	EvansIsTheBest	349	(+11)
8	Search	345	(+11)
9	SlowClimber	333	(+11)
10	Ingsve	323	(-5)
11	Del1962	305	(-5)
12	Laarsland	299	(-3)
13	AmisVelo	286	(-3)
13	Madrazo	286	(-2)
15	Josedin	282	(-8)
16	Hfgon1	267	(-4)
17	Abbulf	256	(-4)
18	DJSprtsch	239	(-4)
19	DevilsElbow	237	(-4)
20	Peixotini	217	(-4)
21	Armchair	200	(-)
22	NBFC1962	199	(+11)
23	Triley36	193	(-1)
24	JonEzeitza	175	(-1)
25	Kazistuta	173	(-1)
25	Vladimir	173	(-)
27	RedheadDane	166	(+1)
28	Onizuka	151	(-2)
29	QueenStagiare	146	(-3)
30	Blues_in_the_Bottle	121	(-1)
31	Ruvu	114	(+1)
32	DJW	109	(-1)
33	Shakes	102	(-3)
	CollectiveWisdom	466
	SoLastYear	30
	MainGamePop	64

Those mathematically selected teams are being left well adrift already.

Next up is a double header on Wednesday week: Nokere Koerse and Milan-Torino (with Superga this time).
Enjoy P-N and T-A until then.

Samu Cuenca · Mar 9, 2025

I didn't expect to still be in the lead after Scaroni crashed out yesterday, but being the only one to have Healy helped me a lot. But we're in the early stages and once we reach the mountains, the green jersey could easily get in trouble.

Armchair Cyclist · Mar 10, 2025

Earns1985 said:
Looks like Senechal (40 times picked) will again miss the classic season and the races, where he could potentially score the most..

Same issue for 16 of 33 teams here.

Armchair Cyclist · Mar 20, 2025

A busy few days: 5 races in 4 of them.

Today's pair in chronological order:
Race 7 Milano-Torino

Race Pos'n	Pts	Teams
2	TULETT Ben	78	14
13	JEGAT Jordan	16	1

1	AmisVelo, Bminchow, Del1962, DevilsElbow, DJSprtsch, EvansIsTheBest, Ingsve, Kazistuta, Laarsland, Madrazo, Ray10, Rufs, SamuCuenca, Search	78	16.14 green points
15	RedheadDane	16
	CollectiveWisdom	78

Standings (for about an hour)
Green
The two that dropped in the table lack Tullett

1	SamuCuenca	186.14	(-)
2	Search	116.89	(+1)
3	LosBrolin	113.5	(-1)
4	EvansIsTheBest	101.47	(+1)
5	SlowClimber	95	(-1)
6	Bminchow	83.39	(+1)
7	AmisVelo	81.89	(+1)
7	Rufs	81.89	(+1)
9	DJSprtsch	75.72	(+2)
10	DevilsElbow	71.47	(+2)

Main
A very simple pattern in this one: is you scored, you moved up, unless you were already in the top 4, if not, you dropped unless you were already in the bottom 6

1	SamuCuenca	570	(-)
2	Rufs	500	(-)
3	Bminchow	483	(-)
4	Ray10	475	(-)
5	EvansIsTheBest	427	(+2)
6	Search	423	(+2)
7	Ingsve	401	(+3)
8	Leadbelly	390	(-3)
9	Del1962	383	(+2)
10	LosBrolin	378	(-4)
11	Laarsland	377	(+1)
12	AmisVelo	364	(+1)
12	Madrazo	364	(+1)
14	SlowClimber	333	(-5)
15	DJSprtsch	317	(+3)
16	DevilsElbow	315	(+3)
17	Josedin	282	(-2)
18	Hfgon1	267	(-2)
19	Abbulf	256	(-2)
20	Kazistuta	251	(+5)
21	Peixotini	217	(-1)
22	Armchair	200	(-1)
23	NBFC1962	199	(-1)
24	Triley36	193	(-1)
25	RedheadDane	182	(+2)
26	JonEzeitza	175	(-2)
27	Vladimir	173	(-2)
28	Onizuka	151	(-)
29	QueenStagiare	146	(-)
30	Blues_in_the_Bottle	121	(-)
31	Ruvu	114	(-)
32	DJW	109	(-)
33	Shakes	102	(-)
	CollectiveWisdom	544
	SoLastYear	30
	MainGamePop	64

Armchair Cyclist · Mar 20, 2025

Race 8: Nokere Koerse

After 7 unsuccessful races, we have a race winner who actually got picked

Race Pos'n		Pts	Teams
1	EEKHOFF Nils	130	1
3	LAMPERTI Luke	66	1
7	ASKEY Lewis	40	1
8	DAINESE Alberto	34	1
12	RENARD Alexis	18	2
13	LIVYNS Arjen	16	1

So it should be obvious who the scoring teams selected

1	Onizuka	130	80
2	Shakes	66	50
3	Vladimir	40	35
4	Kazistuta	34	25
5	Blues_in_the_Bottle	18	12.5
5	NBFC1962	18	12.5
7	LosBrolin	16	5

Standings
Green
Before this result there were 4 teams still without any green points, but two of them were the top two here

1	SamuCuenca	186.14	(-)
2	LosBrolin	118.5	(+1)
3	Search	116.89	(-1)
4	EvansIsTheBest	101.47	(-)
5	SlowClimber	95	(-)
6	Bminchow	83.39	(-)
7	AmisVelo	81.89	(-)
7	Rufs	81.89	(-)
9	Onizuka	80	(+21)
10	DJSprtsch	75.72	(-1)

Main
Of those in the top half of the table, only Los Brolin scored.

1	SamuCuenca	570	(-)
2	Rufs	500	(-)
3	Bminchow	483	(-)
4	Ray10	475	(-)
5	EvansIsTheBest	427	(-)
6	Search	423	(-)
7	Ingsve	401	(-)
8	LosBrolin	394	(+2)
9	Leadbelly	390	(-1)
10	Del1962	383	(-1)
11	Laarsland	377	(-)
12	AmisVelo	364	(-)
12	Madrazo	364	(-)
14	SlowClimber	333	(-)
15	DJSprtsch	317	(-)
16	DevilsElbow	315	(-)
17	Kazistuta	285	(+3)
18	Josedin	282	(-1)
19	Onizuka	281	(+9)
20	Hfgon1	267	(-2)
21	Abbulf	256	(-2)
22	NBFC1962	217	(+1)
22	Peixotini	217	(-1)
24	Vladimir	213	(+3)
25	Armchair	200	(-3)
26	Triley36	193	(-2)
27	RedheadDane	182	(-2)
28	JonEzeitza	175	(-2)
29	Shakes	168	(+4)
30	QueenStagiare	146	(-1)
31	Blues_in_the_Bottle	139	(-1)
32	Ruvu	114	(-1)
33	DJW	109	(-1)
	CollectiveWisdom	544
	SoLastYear	50
	MainGamePop	64

Denain tomorrow, then Koksijde on Friday and the main event of the week, Milan-San Remo, on Saturday. Hopefully there will be some more interesting scoring in one of them.

Samu Cuenca · Mar 20, 2025

I regret not picking Brennan for any of the games this year. Maybe I should create a Fall Classics game just to make up for it.

Armchair Cyclist · Mar 20, 2025

Samu Cuenca said:
I regret not picking Brennan for any of the games this year. Maybe I should create a Fall Classics game just to make up for it.

I'd be happy to talk you through the spreadsheet if you want to base it on this...

RedheadDane · Mar 20, 2025

Samu Cuenca said:
I regret not picking Brennan for any of the games this year. Maybe I should create a Fall Classics game just to make up for it.

What would the time period be?
Assuming you'd use the same "All WT and PS one day races within a certain period" as this game.

Donostia to Lombardia?

Armchair Cyclist · Mar 21, 2025

Race 9 GP de Denain

That's more like it: 4 of the first 5 were selected, and one of them was the most popular pick in the game.

Race Pos'n	Pts	Teams
1	BRENNAN Matthew	130	2
3	DE BONDT Dries	66	1
4	VERMEERSCH Florian	58	30
5	VAN MOER Brent	52	1
10	ASKEY Lewis	24	1
11	DE SCHUYTENEER Steffen	20	2
23	VAN MECHELEN Vlad	5	2
25	DEL GROSSO Tibor	5	1
30	RENARD Alexis	5	2

Two teams with the winner this time, and the highest scores from one race yet in this edition.

1	Laarsland	208	Brennan, Vermeersch and De Schuyteneer	80
2	Abbulf	188	Brennan & Vermeersch	50
3	DJW	144	De Bondt, Vermeesch and De Schuyteneer	35
4	RedheadDane	110	Vermeersch and Van Moer	25
5	Vladimir	82	Vermeersch and Askey	15
6	Blues_in_the_Bottle	63		6
6	JonEzeitza	63		6
6	LosBrolin	63		6
9	AmisVelo	58		0.14
9	Armchair	58		0.14
9	Bminchow	58		0.14
9	Del1962	58		0.14
9	DevilsElbow	58		0.14
9	DJSprtsch	58		0.14
9	EvansIsTheBest	58		0.14
9	Hfgon1	58		0.14
9	Ingsve	58		0.14
9	Kazistuta	58		0.14
9	Leadbelly	58		0.14
9	Madrazo	58		0.14
9	Onizuka	58		0.14
9	Peixotini	58		0.14
9	QueenStagiare	58		0.14
9	Ray10	58		0.14
9	Rufs	58		0.14
9	Ruvu	58		0.14
9	Search	58		0.14
9	Shakes	58		0.14
9	SlowClimber	58		0.14
9	Triley36	58		0.14
31	NBFC1962	10
32	Josedin	0
32	SamuCuenca	0
	CollectiveWisdom	58
	SoLastYear	0
	MainGamePop	58

Standings
Green
So many people being joint ninth means that we are finally all off the mark, and my habit is to celebrate that landmark by giving the full table. Even if it does become an act of self-humiliation

1	SamuCuenca	186.14	(-)
2	Laarsland	130.14	(+15)
3	LosBrolin	124.5	(-1)
4	Search	117.03	(-1)
5	EvansIsTheBest	101.61	(-1)
6	SlowClimber	95.14	(-1)
7	Bminchow	83.53	(-1)
8	AmisVelo	82.03	(-1)
8	Rufs	82.03	(-1)
10	Onizuka	80.14	(-1)
11	Vladimir	76	(+5)
12	DJSprtsch	75.86	(-2)
13	DevilsElbow	71.61	(-2)
14	Peixotini	69.89	(-2)
15	Ray10	68.78	(-2)
16	Ingsve	63.78	(-2)
17	Leadbelly	63.14	(-2)
18	Abbulf	62.5	(+8)
19	Blues_in_the_Bottle	53.5	(+1)
20	Shakes	50.14	(-2)
21	Del1962	48.78	(-2)
22	Kazistuta	42.03	(-1)
22	Madrazo	42.03	(-1)
24	DJW	35	(+8)
25	RedheadDane	31.75	(+3)
26	NBFC1962	22.5	(-3)
27	Hfgon1	20.64	(-3)
28	Josedin	19.5	(-3)
29	Triley36	10.64	(-2)
30	JonEzeitza	9	(+1)
31	QueenStagiare	4.39	(-2)
31	Ruvu	4.39	(-2)
33	Armchair	0.14	(-1)

Overall
A change at the top, as the two teams with Brennan both make 10 place leaps forward, and Samu Cuenca's rare status as an non-picker of Vermeersch comes into play.

1	Laarsland	585	(+10)
2	SamuCuenca	570	(-1)
3	Rufs	558	(-1)
4	Bminchow	541	(-1)
5	Ray10	533	(-1)
6	EvansIsTheBest	485	(-1)
7	Search	481	(-1)
8	Ingsve	459	(-1)
9	LosBrolin	457	(-1)
10	Leadbelly	448	(-1)
11	Abbulf	444	(+10)
12	Del1962	441	(-2)
13	AmisVelo	422	(-1)
13	Madrazo	422	(-1)
15	SlowClimber	391	(-1)
16	DJSprtsch	375	(-1)
17	DevilsElbow	373	(-1)
18	Kazistuta	343	(-1)
19	Onizuka	339	(-)
20	Hfgon1	325	(-)
21	Vladimir	295	(+3)
22	RedheadDane	292	(+5)
23	Josedin	282	(-5)
24	Peixotini	275	(-2)
25	Armchair	258	(-)
26	DJW	253	(+7)
27	Triley36	251	(-1)
28	JonEzeitza	238	(-)
29	NBFC1962	227	(-7)
30	Shakes	226	(-1)
31	QueenStagiare	204	(-1)
32	Blues_in_the_Bottle	202	(-1)
33	Ruvu	172	(-1)
	CollectiveWisdom	602
	SoLastYear	50
	MainGamePop	122

I'm surprised to see that only 38% of tomorrow's field were in this race (I had sort of assumed that the three northern races this week had the same cast), so it'll be different. But to whose advantage?

RedheadDane · Mar 21, 2025

Armchair Cyclist said:
1
Laarsland
208
Brennan, Vermeersch and De Schuyteneer
80
2
Abbulf
188
Brennan & Vermeersch
50
3
DJW
144
De Bondt, Vermeesch and De Schuyteneer
35
4
RedheadDane
110
Vermeersch and Van Moer
25
5
Vladimir
82
Vermeersch and Askey
15

So, we all picked F. Vermeersch, while none of us picked G. Vermeersch?
Also, what do the second and third number collumn mean?

Devil's Elbow · Mar 21, 2025

RedheadDane said:
Also, what do the second and third number collumn mean?

It fairly obviously goes like this:

Rank	Player	Points scored on the day	Scoring riders	Green jersey points scored on the day
1	Probably not RhD	More than anyone else	Other, Vino	80

RedheadDane · Mar 21, 2025

Devil's Elbow said:
It fairly obviously goes like this:

Rank Player Points scored on the day Scoring riders Green jersey points scored on the day
1 Probably not RhD More than anyone else Other, Vino 80

Aaaah, I didn't consider green jersey points.

Armchair Cyclist · Mar 21, 2025

Looks like @Shakes, as the only manager to pick Lamperti, with @Onizuka999 not far behind (Eekhout) as the main beneficiaries of today's race. And Florian Vermeersch again making a mockery of the green points by creating a huge tie for positions behind him.

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