2025 Tour of the Alps (April 21-25)

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Apr 10, 2019
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Can someone explain to me the criteria for KOM classification in this race?

7.8 km at 8% unclassified
4.7 km at 8.8% unclassified
and a bunch of little ramps at 10% unclassified.
Because Italy.
Tomorrow the unclassified climb is the first 4.5kms of this side of Erbe.
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I prefer that side staight after Furcia because you avoid the traffic on the main ride.
Also, I have climbed every single climb left in the race besides the Stronach climb (last climb of the last stage) multiple times, so I can actually give some insight when it comes to those climbs. ;)
 

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As today‘s stage took five hours and two seconds and the final climb delivered, this goes down as a W for long mountain stages.

long mountain stages are the future, with everyone being so physiologically optimized all the time
 
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Why do they finish these stages so early (about 1530)? I thought Italians didn’t eat dinner until around 8:00, so what’s the rush? ;)
 
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Michael Storer took full advantage of AG2R's questionable tactics and the Pantani-esque slipstream that suddenly appeared in front of him, but will Tudor be able to control things during the rest of the race?


Stage 3: Sterzing-Ratschings/Vipiteno-Racines - Innichen/San Candido, 145 km, aka In the Pedal Strokes of Mayomaniac

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Please note that the stage is expected to finish about an hour earlier than the first two stages (so between 14 and 14:30 local time)!!!
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The peloton will ride in a southeast direction after the start in Sterzing/Vipiteno. A 6.5 km uphill drag through tunnels and across bridges will bring the riders to Longega/Zwischenwasser where the next mountain awaits. The climb to slightly below Untermoi/Antermoia is not an easy one, with the first 4 km averaging over 10%.
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After a very short descent, it goes uphill again for the 2.5 km depicted as downhill on the profile below, which is then followed by the descent to Piccolein/Piccolino, where you probably don't want to sit right behind Felix Gall if it can be avoided.

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The riders will then ride back through Longega/Zwischenwasser to start the next climb, the Furkelpass/Passo Furcia, which was used as the last climb when Lennard Kämna won in Niederdorf/Villabassa in 2022. One can only hope he'll have good sensations again tomorrow.

The climb is also known for how it links up with the road to Kronplatz/Plan de Corones, which was supposed to have been ridden in full in the 2006 Giro, but has so far only been used for the MTTs in 2008 and 10. The altered 2006 stage finished at Furcia instead, where Robo Basso handed the win to Leonardo Piepoli.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd8DJoZS09w


As you can see on the climb profile, it really kicks off about halfway through with sections above 10%, but there are still 55 km left from the top, which include about 30 km of valley roads. The 10 km descent averages over 7% and reaches 14% at its worst, so you probably don't want to be on Felix Gall's wheel there.

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The route continues east where the finish line in Innichen/San Candido will be crossed for the first time with 21 km left. 5 km later, the final climb over Jaufenstraße/Via Jaufen to Vierschachberg/Monte Versciaco starts. It's not too different from the climb we saw on stage 2, but the hardest part comes near the bottom rather than closer to the top.
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There's a bit of false flat after the top before the descent kicks in with 5.5 km to go. As Mayomaniac explained earlier in the thread, the original finish was even trickier, but this one is not easy either. 3 km downhill at around 10% all the way (18% max.), through some corners and bends, could make it possible for someone to create a gap before the last 2 flat km to the line. Felix Gall will probably want to be ahead solo after the climb.

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Why do they finish these stages so early (about 1530)? I thought Italians didn’t eat dinner until around 8:00, so what’s the rush? ;)

I think this is the one with not a lot of - if any - alternative routes for people to get home from work.
Apparently nobody considered just giving people the day off...
 
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Michael Storer took full advantage of AG2R's questionable tactics and the Pantani-esque slipstream that suddenly appeared in front of him, but will Tudor be able to control things during the rest of the race?


Stage 3: Sterzing-Ratschings/Vipiteno-Racines - Innichen/San Candido, 145 km, aka In the Pedal Strokes of Mayomaniac

!!!
Please note that the stage is expected to finish about an hour earlier than the first two stages (so between 14 and 14:30 local time)!!!
2025_62_3.jpg

The peloton will ride in a southeast direction after the start in Sterzing/Vipiteno. A 6.5 km uphill drag through tunnels and across bridges will bring the riders to Longega/Zwischenwasser where the next mountain awaits. The climb to slightly below Untermoi/Antermoia is not an easy one, with the first 4 km averaging over 10%.
ErbeNE.gif


After a very short descent, it goes uphill again for the 2.5 km depicted as downhill on the profile below, which is then followed by the descent to Piccolein/Piccolino, where you probably don't want to sit right behind Felix Gall if it can be avoided.

ErbeSE.gif


The riders will then ride back through Longega/Zwischenwasser to start the next climb, the Furkelpass/Passo Furcia, which was used as the last climb when Lennard Kämna won in Niederdorf/Villabassa in 2022. One can only hope he'll have good sensations again tomorrow.

The climb is also known for how it links up with the road to Kronplatz/Plan de Corones, which was supposed to have been ridden in full in the 2006 Giro, but has so far only been used for the MTTs in 2008 and 10. The altered 2006 stage finished at Furcia instead, where Robo Basso handed the win to Leonardo Piepoli.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd8DJoZS09w


As you can see on the climb profile, it really kicks off about halfway through with sections above 10%, but there are still 55 km left from the top, which include about 30 km of valley roads. The 10 km descent averages over 7% and reaches 14% at its worst, so you probably don't want to be on Felix Gall's wheel there.

passo-furcia-furkelpass-longega-zwischenwasser.png


The route continues east where the finish line in Innichen/San Candido will be crossed for the first time with 21 km left. 5 km later, the final climb over Jaufenstraße/Via Jaufen to Vierschachberg/Monte Versciaco starts. It's not too different from the climb we saw on stage 2, but the hardest part comes near the bottom rather than closer to the top.
2NP9juO.jpeg


There's a bit of false flat after the top before the descent kicks in with 5.5 km to go. As Mayomaniac explained earlier in the thread, the original finish was even trickier, but this one is not easy either. 3 km downhill at around 10% all the way (18% max.), through some corners and bends, could make it possible for someone to create a gap before the last 2 flat km to the line. Felix Gall will probably want to be ahead solo after the climb.

innichberg-monte-san-candido-innichen-san-candido.png
Nice: Fun fact, the final downhill section (with 22% ramps) is right next to a field that my family owns. Also overall only the 3rd steepest murito that starts in my hometown.
 
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Storer with a great performance but the motorbikes gave him a helping hand too.

Seixas very strong once again.
 
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Storer is a real throwback rider and on his day I would contend that he is the best pure climber in the world (clearly still behind Pogacar and Vingegaard) and able to win from the GC group when on a magic day.

Can’t TT and consistency is an issue so doubtful he could ever top 5 a Grand Tour.
 
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I think this is the one with not a lot of - if any - alternative routes for people to get home from work.
Apparently nobody considered just giving people the day off...
Good to know. It’s probably okay they didn’t bother to take into account the all of 5 or so viewers (judging from this forum) on the US. West coast 🤪
 
Michael Storer took full advantage of AG2R's questionable tactics and the Pantani-esque slipstream that suddenly appeared in front of him, but will Tudor be able to control things during the rest of the race?
I still haven't found the conclusive video of Marco's AdH record setting feats when he was allegedly getting towed by motos.

As for Storer's win, looked at the video twice and the moto was only in drafting range on one hairpin but quickly sped out of range. Meanwhile the chasing group got more draft off each other.
 
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Nice: Fun fact, the final downhill section (with 22% ramps) is right next to a field that my family owns. Also overall only the 3rd steepest murito that starts in my hometown.
I am fully expecting Petulant Whiners United representation tomorrow