32ème édition du Tour de l'Ain (2.1) // August 7th - 9th 2020

[topcat]

Of course he would, and given he's now on a ketones cure he's going to annihilate the Tour as well.

I hope Jumbo realise Dumo is their best bet

 

[Escarabajo]

I hope Jumbo realise Dumo is their best bet

Why is that?

 

[Lequack]

 

[Red Rick]

I hope Jumbo realise Dumo is their best bet

This is the former RaboFail still.

If they realise Kruijswijk ain't winning they exceed my expectations

 

[topt]

I hope Jumbo realise Dumo is their best bet

based on what

 

[johnymax]

based on what

Based on his preferences. Both Rogla and Tom are huge cards to play for Jumbo Visma and both are looking good. I like it.

 

[Red Rick]

based on what

I would've blindly agreed until last Vuelta. But Roglic didn't really show any sign of weakness there.

I think it depends a lot on if Dumoulin makes a leap from his Sunweb days. And I think Dumoulin has shown his TT falls off much less when tired than Roglic' might.

Both are way better bets than Kruijswijk though, and I'd go as far as saying Kruijswijk has limited tactical value outside of being an optional domestique

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Things I've heard in the last 100m:
1). Gesink leading out Roglic
2). Almeida winning the stage
3). Nicola Bagioli ultimately winning

Also just learned something new on Eurosport: Hanninen was runner-up at the World Championship in 2018 behind Evenepoel!
Bet you didn't know that, huh, DNP-Old?

 

[Blanco]

I hope Jumbo realise Dumo is their best bet

Yeah, just keep hoping, cause it ain't gonna happen'

 

[DNP-Old]

Also just learned something new on Eurosport: Hanninen was runner-up at the World Championship in 2018 behind Evenepoel!
Bet you didn't know that, huh, DNP-Old?

The entire Eurosport cast are just next level trash, all of them. How do you watch so much cycling, but still don't know anything about it? Honestly, any Belgian or Dutch person should support Evenepoel into oblivion, no matter how arrogant of whatever they think he is. He might be the one to get Sporza to invest big time into cycling (again). Though it must be said that Wuyts and José, unfortunately, don't have eternal life either, and I fear that when their time comes, the ever so clueless Ruben Van Gucht will take over, with the walking-cliché-man Sven Nys as his right hand.

Chris Picavet is the true heir to the throne.

 

[topcat]

Based on his preferences. Both Rogla and Tom are huge cards to play for Jumbo Visma and both are looking good. I like it.

Thanks for answering for me. Dumo has proven he can win a tough gt.

 

[Blanco]

Thanks for answering for me. Dumo has proven he can win a tough gt.

So can Rogla...

 

[topcat]

So can Rogla...

So says you

 

[RedheadDane]

Things I've heard in the last 100m:
1). Gesink leading out Roglic
2). Almeida winning the stage
3). Nicola Bagioli ultimately winning

And I only just realised they got the Bagioli wrong...

 

[Earns1985]

113

FROOME Chris

Team INEOS

1:46

Froome will definitely not win the tour this year. Also a question if Ineos will take him with them.

 

[HelloDolly]

If I were Jumbo I would be behind Dumoulin as he for me is the better GT rider ..well he was

Roglic won the Vuelta but there was no competition and everyone one made the kid Podgcar look amasing .At the Giro last year Roga ran out of steam while marked by the Shark and was in the shade of Carapaz

Dumoulin has beaten the shark and Quintana in the GT and was very close in GT to Froome and Thomas without a team

I think he has the edge

But which will ride for the other when push comes to shove ?

 

[DNP-Old]

113

FROOME Chris

Team INEOS

1:46

Froome will definitly not win the tour this year. Also a question if Ineos will take him with them.

I don't think we should any conclusions until Dauphiné. It was more or less a flat stage, and he'll work for Egan and Thomas in the mountains. Why bother?

 

[RedheadDane]

Roglic won the Vuelta but there was no competition and everyone one made the kid Podgcar look amasing

Maybe the kid Pogacar was amazing!

 

[bob.a.feet]

113

FROOME Chris

Team INEOS

1:46

Froome will definitely not win the tour this year. Also a question if Ineos will take him with them.

When Froome's era is finally over but you remember Ineos are still going to win the next 10 Tours

 

[HelloDolly]

Maybe the kid Pogacar was amazing!

My point was he looked amasing against Roglic uphill

 

[Hugo Koblet]

If I were Jumbo I would be behind Dumoulin as he for me is the better GT rider ..well he was

Roglic won the Vuelta but there was no competition and everyone one made the kid Podgcar look amasing .At the Giro last year Roga ran out of steam while marked by the Shark and was in the shade of Carapaz

Dumoulin has beaten the shark and Quintana in the GT and was very close in GT to Froome and Thomas without a team

I think he has the edge

But which will ride for the other when push comes to shove ?

On the other hand, Dumoulin did have that injury which ruined his 2019 season, while Roglic was basically unstoppable and arguably was the best rider of the year, winning UAE Tour, Tirreno, Romandie, Vuelta, Emilia and Tre Valli Varesine, while finishing 3rd in the Giro.

 

[Red Rick]

If I were Jumbo I would be behind Dumoulin as he for me is the better GT rider ..well he was

Roglic won the Vuelta but there was no competition and everyone one made the kid Podgcar look amasing .At the Giro last year Roga ran out of steam while marked by the Shark and was in the shade of Carapaz

Dumoulin has beaten the shark and Quintana in the GT and was very close in GT to Froome and Thomas without a team

I think he has the edge

But which will ride for the other when push comes to shove ?

Seriously Bernal beat his own teammate with a single GT top 5 and a guy riding his first podium. Roglic from the Vuelta probably wins the Tour if he rides it. He impressed me with his consistency in the Vuelta.

The worst that can happen is Roglic starts better and then fades and Jumbo realise too late Roglic isn't gonna win.

 

[Red Rick]

My point was he looked amasing against Roglic uphill

He never dropped Roglic until the final mountain stage where Roglic let him go then he took 2 minutes out of the domestiques who were all dead. On the other hand Pog also got clobbered by Roglic a few times.

 

[bajbar]

Dumoulin might be a better choice in a Tour from 2000's. Two 50k flat TTs, almost no medium mountains/muritos/steep classics finishes. 5-6 mountain stages with long shallow climbs above 2000 meters. The route this year is the complete opposite. Only two real mountain stages with a MTF, plenty of steep ramps, mountains and hills from stage 1 to stage 20. Not a lot of chances to take huge time, plenty of chances to chip a couple of seconds if you have a strong finish. This suits Roglič down to a T.

Anyway, I think those two can coexist without one working for another per-se. But Kruijswijk will eventually have to go on domestique duty. With him, Kuss, Gesink, Bennet (and Van Aert who was apparenty amazing uphill in the training camp) doing the driving I see no need for etiher Roglič or Tom to work for one another as long as they are both high in the GC. But they can certainly work with each other. Which I think they might.

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

The entire Eurosport cast are just next level trash, all of them. How do you watch so much cycling, but still don't know anything about it? Honestly, any Belgian or Dutch person should support Evenepoel into oblivion, no matter how arrogant of whatever they think he is. He might be the one to get Sporza to invest big time into cycling (again). Though it must be said that Wuyts and José, unfortunately, don't have eternal life either, and I fear that when their time comes, the ever so clueless Ruben Van Gucht will take over, with the walking-cliché-man Sven Nys as his right hand.

Chris Picavet is the true heir to the throne.

TBH, all those options sound better than Roger De Vlaeminck, god he was terrible.