47th Tour de l'Avenir September 5-12 (A.S.O.)

[DAOTEC]

Tomorrow D-day

Saint-Pourçain-sur-Sioule Col du Béal 157 km

Km 78.5 - Côte du Château d'Aulteribe - 1.0 km de montée à 7.8 % - Catégorie 3
Km 92.5 - Côte d'Augerolles - 2.5 km de montée à 5.4 % - Catégorie 3
Km 129.0 - Col du Chansert - 12.9 km de montée à 5.6 % - Catégorie 2
Km 157.0 - COL DU BEAL - 13.3 km de montée à 6.5 % - Catégorie 1

Start: 12:40
Finish: 17:00

General:
1 Alex DOWSETT GRANDE-BRETAGNE 7:39:35
2 Michael MATTHEWS AUSTRALIE 0:00:01
3 Anthony DELAPLACE FRANCE A 0:00:14
4 John DEGENKOLB ALLEMAGNE 0:00:15
5 Nelson OLIVEIRA PORTUGAL 0:00:21
6 Jesus HERRADA LOPEZ ESPAGNE 0:00:22
7 Blaz JARC SLOVÉNIE 0:00:24
8 Geoffrey SOUPE FRANCE A 0:00:24
9 Loic DESRIAC FRANCE B 0:00:26
10 Nairo Alexander QUINTANA ROJAS COLOMBIE 0:00:27
11 Jarlinson PANTANO GÓMEZ COLOMBIE 0:00:28
12 Wilco KELDERMAN PAYS-BAS 0:00:28
13 Camilo SUAREZ COLOMBIE 0:00:30
14 Andrei KRASILNIKAU BIÉLORUSSIE 0:00:30
15 Gregory BRENES EQUIPE MIXTE 0:00:31
16 Michal KWIATKOWSKI POLOGNE 0:00:36
17 Martijn KEIZER PAYS-BAS 0:00:36
18 Sebastian LANDER DANEMARK 0:00:37
19 Jérôme COUSIN FRANCE B 0:00:38
20 Romain HARDY FRANCE A 0:00:38

30 Esteban CHAVES COLOMBIE 0:00:42
42 Daniel TEKLEHAIMANOT EQUIPE MIXTE 0:00:50
59 Sébastian SALAZAR COLOMBIE 0:01:02
71 Darwin ATAPUMA COLOMBIE 0:01:48
Red number
118 Taylor PHINNEY ÉTATS-UNIS 0:18:56

@ Timmy-loves-Rabo, Vids are out there I posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCZGtH6soHo&feature=player_embedded already just look them up.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Anybody know how Jesús Herrada goes uphill? His brother's pretty good at it (4th in Circuito Montañes, 6th in Vuelta a Asturias, stage win in a less than totally flat stage of the Volta a Portugal), and Jesús was also top 10 in the prologue and 6th in the U23 Euro Champs ITT. If his climbing is the same as or better than his brother he's an interesting prospect.

 

[this_is_edie]

wow, these are only hills and the american team is already exposed big time.

seriously why the hatred? so boring to hate a whole country,

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Anybody know how Jesús Herrada goes uphill? His brother's pretty good at it (4th in Circuito Montañes, 6th in Vuelta a Asturias, stage win in a less than totally flat stage of the Volta a Portugal), and Jesús was also top 10 in the prologue and 6th in the U23 Euro Champs ITT. If his climbing is the same as or better than his brother he's an interesting prospect.

jesus isn't bad climber but not like his brother jose. jesus is a big itt talent and much bigger talent overall than jose.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

seriously why the hatred? so boring to hate a whole country,

I don't hate any country.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

you could also reverse the question and ask why they feel so attacked.

 

[TRDean]

you could also reverse the question and ask why they feel so attacked.

Because Ryo seems a little aggressive in his assesments...thats all. As for Telansky..he can climb and was the rider the team was working for. Ben King can also climb, but he was being used as a mule in this race for Telansky. Didn't King win the KOM in a race in Portugal earlier this season? Anyway...hard racing to be sure.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

aggresive -> direct

people usually wrongly translate directness for aggresiveness.. especially dutch people are usually very direct, and people from other cultures take it the wrong way

many dutch people say what we think out loud.

 

[TRDean]

aggresive -> direct

people usually wrongly translate directness for aggresiveness.. especially dutch people are usually very direct, and people from other cultures take it the wrong way

many dutch people say what we think out loud.

Dutch or not...direct or not...Ryo is more than a little negative on the US riders...especially since he is wrong here.

 

[this_is_edie]

I don't hate any country.

not my country. and your posts certainly imply that you do.

 

[this_is_edie]

you could also reverse the question and ask why they feel so attacked.

It's not the first or second time that he/she posts negative things about the US. I was feeling curious for a moment as to the reason for that sentiment.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Well he is the same about dutch (his own country), belgian, french etc etc
The guy is Dutch but claims Gesink is a terrible limited rider who is boring and has no personality... so there is no nationality bias.
just dont pay attention

You will never hear a negative word about Colombians though, thats the exception

 

[Parrulo]

Saint-Pourçain-sur-Sioule Col du Béal 157 km

Km 78.5 - Côte du Château d'Aulteribe - 1.0 km de montée à 7.8 % - Catégorie 3
Km 92.5 - Côte d'Augerolles - 2.5 km de montée à 5.4 % - Catégorie 3
Km 129.0 - Col du Chansert - 12.9 km de montée à 5.6 % - Catégorie 2
Km 157.0 - COL DU BEAL - 13.3 km de montée à 6.5 % - Catégorie 1

Start: 12:40
Finish: 17:00

General:
1 Alex DOWSETT GRANDE-BRETAGNE 7:39:35
2 Michael MATTHEWS AUSTRALIE 0:00:01
3 Anthony DELAPLACE FRANCE A 0:00:14
4 John DEGENKOLB ALLEMAGNE 0:00:15
5 Nelson OLIVEIRA PORTUGAL 0:00:21
6 Jesus HERRADA LOPEZ ESPAGNE 0:00:22
7 Blaz JARC SLOVÉNIE 0:00:24
8 Geoffrey SOUPE FRANCE A 0:00:24
9 Loic DESRIAC FRANCE B 0:00:26
10 Nairo Alexander QUINTANA ROJAS COLOMBIE 0:00:27
11 Jarlinson PANTANO GÓMEZ COLOMBIE 0:00:28
12 Wilco KELDERMAN PAYS-BAS 0:00:28
13 Camilo SUAREZ COLOMBIE 0:00:30
14 Andrei KRASILNIKAU BIÉLORUSSIE 0:00:30
15 Gregory BRENES EQUIPE MIXTE 0:00:31
16 Michal KWIATKOWSKI POLOGNE 0:00:36
17 Martijn KEIZER PAYS-BAS 0:00:36
18 Sebastian LANDER DANEMARK 0:00:37
19 Jérôme COUSIN FRANCE B 0:00:38
20 Romain HARDY FRANCE A 0:00:38

are the guys with their name in bold considered favorites?

cus if they are i may get a a small erection since nelson oliveira is in bold ;_;

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

No, he forgot some guys, like Degenkolb and Kelderman

Degenkolb won the Thüringer Rundfahrt and a stage in the Tour de Alsace and should defo be with the favs

Kelderman won the Tour de Alsace and won the queen stage on the Ballon d'Alsace and therefore should also definately be considered a favorite

 

[Parrulo]

No, he forgot some guys, like Degenkolb and Kelderman

Degenkolb won the Thüringer Rundfahrt and a stage in the Tour de Alsace and should defo be with the favs

Kelderman won the Tour de Alsace and won the queen stage on the Ballon d'Alsace and therefore should also definately be considered a favorite

buzz killer <_<

still i have faith in nelson oliveira. a podium would be cool.would be the second podium for portugal in only 2 years so that would make me happy.

 

[this_is_edie]

Seems there were a lot of crashes in today's stage, not just Phinney going down. But Jorgensen, Roe, Kennaugh all hit the deck.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

buzz killer <_<

still i have faith in nelson oliveira. a podium would be cool.would be the second podium for portugal in only 2 years so that would make me happy.

He definately has a chance.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Well he is the same about dutch (his own country), belgian, french etc etc
The guy is Dutch but claims Gesink is a terrible limited rider who is boring and has no personality... so there is no nationality bias.
just dont pay attention

You will never hear a negative word about Colombians though, thats the exception

I dislike ardila and pena

 

[hrotha]

Anybody know how Jesús Herrada goes uphill? His brother's pretty good at it (4th in Circuito Montañes, 6th in Vuelta a Asturias, stage win in a less than totally flat stage of the Volta a Portugal), and Jesús was also top 10 in the prologue and 6th in the U23 Euro Champs ITT. If his climbing is the same as or better than his brother he's an interesting prospect.

I only know him to be a great time-trialist (he's won the Spanish TT championship three times, twice as a junior and once [this year] as u23), but doing some research I see this year he was 2nd in the GC of the Vuelta al Bidasoa, which included a climb up Jaizkibel and a mountain-top finish where he was 5th.

 

[Escarabajo]

I dislike ardila and pena

Why?

....................................

 

[theyoungest]

No, he forgot some guys, like Degenkolb and Kelderman

Degenkolb won the Thüringer Rundfahrt and a stage in the Tour de Alsace and should defo be with the favs

Kelderman won the Tour de Alsace and won the queen stage on the Ballon d'Alsace and therefore should also definately be considered a favorite

You mean to win the overall? I don't think Degenkolb is one for the bigger climbs.

 

[roundabout]

Degenkolb isn't exactly a climber type at 180/77 and the climbs in Thüringen are not as hard as the ones tomorrow.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Why?

....................................

because they are both money riders who asted imo their talents only for money. aso ardila seems totally unmotivated as racer anymore

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

In Avenir, at that age group, even the bigger guys can win. Because they have a surplus in physique strength.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

not in this field on this parcours.