51st Brabantse Pijl - 204km

[boomcie]

Ofcourse Gilbert is top favorite, but that on basis of his results last year, and his results and riding in MSR and Flanders.

Brabantse Pijl says nothing to me.

Did you even watch the race

Seriously, he did prove his shape was more than ok. What do you want the guy to do?

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Brabantse Pijl says nothing to me.

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well different races they may be.
But Gilbert having form is non-questionable.
Therefore Brabantse Pijl says something.

 

[theyoungest]

Ofcourse Gilbert is top favorite, but that on basis of his results last year, and his results and riding in MSR and Flanders.

Brabantse Pijl says nothing to me.

EG, the E3 Prijs comparison also makes no sense, because while the field there was also weaker, it had at least some RVV favorites (Nuyens, who won the RVV a week later, Leukemans, and also Boom/Langeveld who did well in PR/RVV). And he didn't win by beating someone in a two man sprint, but by finishing far in front.

So again. The comparisons made no sense.

Now you just sound like El Pistolero about Cancellara after the E3-prijs. The competition is crap... blahblah... Watch how he crushes the opposition on Sunday. Unless he's outmanoeuvred by those geniuses at Garmin

 

[boomcie]

... Unless he's outmanoeuvred by those geniuses at Garmin

Funny sh!t

 

[El Pistolero]

i hope leukemans proves you all wrong even though Phil is my 4th favourite rider behind Evans, TGAK and GvA. ACF always barracks for he under dog.

It's Alberto Contador, not Alberto Kontador...

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

AGR is odd, I can't really remember being so confident in a winner in the past. This year tho, hard not to rate Gilbert.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

It's Alberto Contador, not Alberto Kontador...

haha, not bad el pickle.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

AGR is odd, I can't really remember being so confident in a winner in the past. This year tho, hard not to rate Gilbert.

He is the only top favorite.

And behind that the usual large group of contendors that 'might do something'
But you can't put anybody next to Gilbert.

But simply not on basis of this Brabantse Pijl. No way.

 

[theyoungest]

i hope leukemans proves you all wrong even though Phil is my 4th favourite rider behind Evans, TGAK and GvA. ACF always barracks for he under dog.

Is it a coincidence that all three underdogs are BMC riders? Suggesting that you actually don't have much faith in them?

 

[boomcie]

Is it a coincidence that all three underdogs are BMC riders? Suggesting that you actually don't have much faith in them?

I don't think he meant Evans, Kristoff and Van Avermaet are underdogs. He's talking about Leukemans.

Edit: Unless this was a joke?

 

[theyoungest]

I don't think he meant Evans, Kristoff and Van Avermaet are underdogs. He's talking about Leukemans.

He always barracks for the underdog. And from his post I assume he always barracks for Cadel, Alexander, and Greg. Ergo: Cadel, Alexander, and Greg are underdogs.

And of course I'm joking.

 

[Michielveedeebee]

He always barracks for the underdog. And from his post I assume he always barracks for Cadel, Alexander, and Greg. Ergo: Cadel, Alexander, and Greg are underdogs.

And of course I'm joking.

sure you are

 

[boomcie]

He is the only top favorite.

And behind that the usual large group of contendors that 'might do something'
But you can't put anybody next to Gilbert.

But simply not on basis of this Brabantse Pijl. No way.

No, but it helps to build a solid case...

 

[luckyboy]

Gilbert ftw

not the riskiest prediction ever, but still..

 

[boomcie]

He always barracks for the underdog. And from his post I assume he always barracks for Cadel, Alexander, and Greg. Ergo: Cadel, Alexander, and Greg are underdogs.

And of course I'm joking.

I usually like your jokes better.

 

[El Pistolero]

Brabantse Pijl did tell us something though:

Gilbert closed the gap really fast.
It was pretty impressive, but of course not against big names. It really does compare to the E3 Prijs although what Cancellara did there was even more impressive because of the bad luck and the solo ride.

Gilbert is smart enough not to impress too much here I think.

My money for AGR is either on Cunego or Gilbert. Kolobnev also can't be ignored.

 

[boomcie]

Gilbert is smart enough not to impress too much here I think.

My money for AGR is either on Cunego or Gilbert. Kolobnev also can't be ignored.

Good evening El Pistolet, how's it hangin'?

I think it's more accurate to say that Gilbert is smart enough not to waste his energy.

Also: *ignoring Kolobnev*
How did I do that?

 

[El Pistolero]

Good evening El Pistolet, how's it hangin'?

I think it's more accurate to say that Gilbert is smart enough not to waste his energy.

Also: *ignoring Kolobnev*
How did I do that?

Wasn't in response to you, but more of a small analyses of who will likely shine in AGR.

 

[boomcie]

Wasn't in response to you, but more of a small analyses of who will likely shine in AGR.

Don't worry, I know.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

No, but it helps to build a solid case...

I don't see how.

Unlike Cancellara, who in the E3 Prijs beat the RVV-winner (Nuyens), a top 5 RVV finisher (Langeveld), one of the strongest guys in Roubaix (boom) and the same guy who finished 2nd today (Leukemans), I don't see any of the riders he beat today do the same..
Do you see Geslin finishing top 5 in AGR/Fleche or LBL? Do you see Tankink winning the Amstel? Do you see Hoogerland as one of the strongest in LBL? Etcetera... no you don't.

So I really don't see how his won today helps his status even more. It doesn't elevate his status. It only CONFIRMS, his status

 

[Winterfold]

Wuyts and co make it sound like Gilbert just easily defeated both Schlecks, Gesink, Sammy Sanchez, Cunego and all other contendors or something. While he only won the Brabantse Pijl against Leukemans, Geslin and Tankink for crying out loud.

A Cancellara-scenario definately won't happen. They will all want to ride, and riding on someone's wheel is not so effective in the hilly classics, unless your name is Rebellin and your opponent is Boogerd.

I agree with D-T. The kind of riders who can beat Gilbert will beat him by riding and will want to win that way, rather than the more negative (but clearly effective overall) tactics against Cancellara the last two weekends.

 

[El Pistolero]

Negative tactics don't really work when you can sprint anyway.

 

[boomcie]

So I really don't see how his won today helps his status even more. It doesn't elevate his status. It only CONFIRMS, his status

When did anyone ever state differently? A confirmation of his status means it actualizes his position as race favorite. Like I said, it helps to build a solid case. What are you trying to prove here D_T?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

When did anyone ever state differently? A confirmation of his status means it actualizes his position as race favorite. Like I said, it helps to build a solid case. What are you trying to prove here D_T?

Wuyts... that's the whole reason I posted all of this, didn't you see my initial comment?

Wuyts is trying to make it sound like this race elevates his status and that every opponent coming sunday (f.e schlecks, cunego, gesink, kolobnev ando thers) are in awe that he beat Leukemans, Geslin and Tankink

 

[boomcie]

Wuyts... that's the whole reason I posted all of this, didn't you see my initial comment?

Wuyts is trying to make it sound like this race elevates his status and that every opponent coming sunday (f.e schlecks, cunego, gesink, kolobnev ando thers) are in awe that he beat Leukemans, Geslin and Tankink

You're not sounding entirely crazy , but you are guilty of (deliberately?) underestimating Phil's performance. It did looked like a walk in the park for the guy, which must mean something.

I guess it might potentially instill fear in some of his opponents.