86th Tour de Suisse (2.UWT) // June 11th - 18th 2023

[Eddy Evenepoel]

I think it’s worth reflecting about that there are several factors that can make a descent dangerous. Tricky corners is one. Extreme speed is another.

This downhill seems easy but it result in extreme speed and that can make corners not looking to tricky extremely dangerous as well.

 

[Rob5091]

Good to hear Mäder condition is stable. It sounds like he came apon the vehicles helping Sheffield and crashed avoiding them. However, hope he's out of hospital soon.

Edit - from the blick website, with google translate, "As Tour de Suisse doctor Roland Kretsch tells Blick, Mäder was flown by Rega to the Centre for Psychotraumatology in St. Gallen. Mäder had never been conscious, he had found him without a pulse. He was then resuscitated for 25 minutes. Successful. "He has come back to life, the cardiac arrest has been remedied," says Kretsch."

Going from that, it seems Mäder was technically dead when they found him - no pulse. No one has apparently come forward who saw the crash happen. Tragic news.

 

[Samamba]

I mean stable doesn't really mean anything here. Looks like they still don't really know. Good that his dad is with him tho. But reanimation for 25 minutes straight before he "came back to life" sounds really bad.

Descent definitely wasn't dangerous. Obviously it's always dangerous when riders go this fast, but I honestly think Mader was just incredibly unlucky. Sheffield for example is somewhat fine, probably because he didn't land on the one spot with some rocks.

 

[jonas334455]

Yeah, further information has been added now. He was reanimated for 25 minutes, never was conscious and was now (during the night or this morning) transferred to a specialised clinic in St.Gallen.

 

[Jagartrott]

Stable does not necessarily mean good news. I hope he can ride his bike again, or at least lead a relatively normal life if not. I remember that a while ago, during a GT I think, he was riding to support climate change action. It touched me.

Get through this, Gino.

Edit: 25 minutes of reanimation, no regaining consciousness since - that's very worrying.

 

[search]

Report on blick.ch says that Mäder is on intenisve care and stable. His father is there and the team says they're waiting for the doctors to coummunicate the extent of his injuries.
TdS talked with the family about cancelling the stage but decided against.

this article?

Mäders Teamchefin: «Er ist auf der Intensivstation»

Nach dem schlimmen Sturz in der 5. Etappe der Tour de Suisse schwebte Gino Mäder in Lebensgefahr. Alle fragen sich, wie es dem Schweizer Rad-Profi geht.

www.blick.ch

it's not what it says. It says that he yesterday was reported to be stable (by one single, unconfirmed source), and that there's been no update since.

It took them 25 minutes to get him back to life, and he is in intensive care. Since then, his status in unchanged, and he is still unconscious.

Edit: seems like it has been edited since your post. Unfortunately it doesn't sound any positive now.

 

[jonas334455]

this article?

Mäders Teamchefin: «Er ist auf der Intensivstation»

Nach dem schlimmen Sturz in der 5. Etappe der Tour de Suisse schwebte Gino Mäder in Lebensgefahr. Alle fragen sich, wie es dem Schweizer Rad-Profi geht.

www.blick.ch

it's not what it says. It says that he yesterday was reported to be stable (by one single, unconfirmed source), and that there's been no update since.

It took them 25 minutes to get him back to life, and he is in intensive care. Since then, his status in unchanged, and he is still unconscious.

Yeah, they added some information after I posted.

 

[Lievro]

25 minutes. That's extremely long and not good news.

 

[titan31]

Ya, that sounds bad. I'm not expecting good news now

 

[search]

Bini just said that they would prefer not to race today

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqqCDa4AWg4

 

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

Ya, that sounds bad. I'm not expecting good news now

Agree…

He is such a good and intelligent person, great racer, talented and everything… Just terrible.

TdS doctor mentions 25 minutes of reanimation until he came back to life. That‘s terribly long. He‘s elite athlete and in great, healthy shape, but these 25 minutes possibly could have caused damage.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Can we only have informations from official/confirmed sources here please? No speculation? I cannot believe it

 

[Peyroteo94]

This is the reason why Tour has so many MTF these days

 

[jonas334455]

Last 30k will be raced neutralized, Ginos family wished that. Further discussions during the day.

Good bye, Gino.

 

[KOM]

Why would it? Portet d'Aspet didn't disappear after Casartelli passed away and neither did Passo del Bocco when Weylandt met his end there. I don't think we'll never see a descent finish into La Punt again, much less that descent finishes are going to suddenly disappear after today.

Completely different time. Nowadays we get multiple essays and/or strikes and altered routes anytime it rains during a race (forgive the hyperbole) so I think its quite likely this horrible incident will change the races in some shape or form.

 

[Andy schleck]

The descent wasn't dangerous, it was a accident, unfortunately it happens.
RIP Mader.

 

[Riek s]

RIP Mäder. Very hard to hear.

My sincere condolences to his family, friends & loved ones.

 

[Ricco']

I dunno. Like Sheffield went off at the same corner and there's a chance the presence of vehicles put Mader off so that would mean this descent and the fight at the front is the reason here.

It's all a series of unfortunate events that lead to this tragic outcome, we can never be sure it was because of gc fight or something. As someone have said previous instances have happened when there was nothing on line, and while a descend in the end of the stage leads to more risks being taken to a placement, it also means that the riders are more spread out which is better than something happening when they are bunched up in a 80+ rider group, where an unfortunate crash can easily mean than a couple more go down as well.


About Mäder, is sickening what happened. A guy on the prime of his life, riding is home grand tour, with so many goals and dreams lined up in his future. Don't know what to say.

 

[houtdffan]

First, RIP to Mader

you neutralize the stage today or even cancel it. Just as was done in the 2011 giro the day after a fatality and the 1995 TDF

You do not cancel the entire race

 

[MikeTichondrius]

Have either descents been used in a place where the race was on?

This was the exact finish from the 2013 stage Rui Costa won. I didn't look it up but Portet d'Aspet is unlikelier to have been used as a final descent for the fact that the bigger stage finish towns are a further climb away or just further away.

It's dozens of races every year, hundreds of riders going at it. This could easily have happened anywhere else. The best that can be done is identifying dangerous spots and implementing some sort of protection. This is no Crostis descent, which was indeed ridiculous. This is a regular alpine road. Nothing to stop this from happening on a Telegraphe or Peyresourde descent finish, which nobody would blink at.

The sport is indeed cruel. But in our hearts, we know they risk it all for us sometimes, and that is a big part of why we watch. RIP Gino, nobody deserves to die so young.

 

[Eshnar]

Please continue the discussion here

RIP Gino Mäder (1997 - 2023)

He's dead. Originally posted by Izzyeviel: He's no longer with us...I thought it'd be a good idea to do a sort of a tribute thread for him. I'm guessing i'm not the only person here who is devastated by the news. And lets be honest, he was probably getting a thread sooner or later, he was a...

forum.cyclingnews.com

EDIT: I mean about the sad news. You may continue the discussion about descents here if you really want.

 

[Volderke]

Dear Gino

I know you are not going to read this, and I know you don't care about someone silly old woman on a cycling forum.
But you hang in there, young man. You are a fighter. You can make it!

 

[Berniece]

The descent wasn't dangerous, it was a accident, unfortunately it happens.
RIP Mader.

Descents are a part of cycling, and should remain. But that doesn't mean the organizers and UCI can't make an effort on making such descents more safe. That if you are willing to take a risk in a corner, you are still alive. So the focus is mostly on skill, and not on who dares the most.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Have either descents been used in a place where the race was on?

Portet d'Aspet was the final climb in a stage of the 2021 Tour, although the descent was at about 30k to go. Before that, Ronde de l'Isard has had finishes in Aspet, which is right at the bottom of the descent, but I can't confirm they actually used it.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Finishes on descents will be seriously review after this tragedy and I think this isn't good for cycling