86th Tour de Suisse (2.UWT) // June 11th - 18th 2023

[Ilmaestro99]

there are two interviews with the race doctor available in Swiss media (one on Blick's website, one during SRF's coverage today), and he said that both riders were located inside the streambed. He also mentions that after resuscitation they checked Mäder (as well as possible) for broken bones before his transport to the clinic, and weren't able to locate any obvious injuries. So he assumes that he suffered from a traumatic brain injury. So in the end, to me it sounds like one rider was probably just more lucky than the other.

According to him, they were stopped by a commissaire and a spectator, btw, so that should also exclude that any team car was present already at this point.

Thank you for your posts. What a tragic incident

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

I saw Stefan Kung give this lady an embrace right at the end of the coverage today. I assumed it was some family member of his. I never imagined that Gino's mother would have made it to the finish line today to greet the riders. Some lady.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1669752944466571290

View: https://twitter.com/eurosport/status/1669752944466571290

 

[jonas334455]

Her name is actually Sandra Mäder. She was quite active on twitter following her son.
The reason Gino started cycling and wanted to turn professional was that he wanted his parents greeting him
on the side of the road together after they split when he was a teenager.

Oh, and Gino has no connection to Gino Bartali as cyclingnews writes in their report. She wrote on twitter once that she just liked the name.

 

[Escarabajo]

One thing, dont they generally use wider tires now than before?

Yes. They are even wider for the classics I think.

All tires used to be 23, I ride 25/26 now. Everyone in my group tells me why I ride skinny tires. The majority in my group ride are on 28. Some of them 32. But I don't think that they used so wide for the mountains.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Her name is actually Sandra Mäder. She was quite active on twitter following her son.
The reason Gino started cycling and wanted to turn professional was that he wanted his parents greeting him
on the side of the road together after they split when he was a teenager.

Oh, and Gino has no connection to Gino Bartali as cyclingnews writes in their report. She wrote on twitter once that she just liked the name.

Why did Eurosport call her Heidi? Did they not know her name and copied the most cliché name?

 

[jonas334455]

Why did Eurosport call her Heidi? Did they not know her name and copied the most cliché name?

I don't know. Probably someone started it and all the other used it without checking.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1669788172748742656

View: https://twitter.com/sandramaeder/status/1669788172748742656

 

[RedheadDane]

That just seems so respectless, to basically just... guess a name.

 

[SHAD0W93]

I don't know. Probably someone started it and all the other used it without checking.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1669788172748742656

View: https://twitter.com/sandramaeder/status/1669788172748742656

That’s just disrespectful on so many levels.

 

[titan31]

That's pretty bad by Eurosport. Like come on lads

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

That’s just disrespectful on so many levels.

They probably had a toss up between Heidi and Gretl, but heads it was.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

So they're allegedly planning on taking the time 25 km from the line tomorrow. I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind this. Is the descent from Ottenberg dangerous in any way?

 

[QueenStagiaire]

So they're allegedly planning on taking the time 25 km from the line tomorrow. I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind this. Is the descent from Ottenberg dangerous in any way?

Who is alleging this?

 

[Devil's Elbow]

So they're allegedly planning on taking the time 25 km from the line tomorrow. I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind this. Is the descent from Ottenberg dangerous in any way?

It isn't the widest road in the world (not especially narrow but narrower than you usually get in Switzerland), but it's also at low gradients, down a gentle hillside with zero drops next to the road, without any technical sections as far as I can tell.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Who is alleging this?

Wielerflits

 

[search]

that new "finish line" is after a descent as well, so I can't really see how this makes sense. Unless they mean to say that everyone gets the same time anyway.

 

[titan31]

BBC calling her the wrong name too

Mader, 26, dies after Tour de Suisse crash

Swiss cyclist Gino Mader dies at the age of 26 after crashing heavily on stage five of the Tour de Suisse.

www.bbc.com

 

[SHAD0W93]

They probably had a toss up between Heidi and Gretl, but coins it was.

Could have just went the safe method and said it was his mom and say her name later when it’s confirmed.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

The stage will finish at the top of Ottenberg, 18.8 km from where the stage winner will be crowned.

Tour de Suisse 2023 will continue - Tour de Suisse

After an emotional day and a very touching ride in memory of Gino Mäder, it was decided in consultation with the family of Gino Mäder that the Tour de Suisse Men 2023 will continue. The 3rd Tour de Suisse Women will also go ahead. The 3rd Tour de Suisse Women will also go ahead. Today’s […]

www.tourdesuisse.ch

 

[Berniece]

So they're allegedly planning on taking the time 25 km from the line tomorrow. I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind this. Is the descent from Ottenberg dangerous in any way?

25km doesn’t make any sense, would mean they skip Ottenburg…

EDIT: @Samu Cuenca just posted that this is indeed not the case and they’ll finish on top of Ottenburg. Makes more sense

 

[QueenStagiaire]

The stage will finish at the top of Ottenberg, 18.8 km from where the stage winner will be crowned.

Tour de Suisse 2023 will continue - Tour de Suisse

After an emotional day and a very touching ride in memory of Gino Mäder, it was decided in consultation with the family of Gino Mäder that the Tour de Suisse Men 2023 will continue. The 3rd Tour de Suisse Women will also go ahead. The 3rd Tour de Suisse Women will also go ahead. Today’s […]

www.tourdesuisse.ch

Completely drunk decision, making up an uphill shootout for the GC contenders followed by a stage win fight at the finish. That changes the race completely.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

It's GC times being taken at the top of Ottenberg, the stage still finishes in Weinfelden. There was also supposed to be a bonus second sprint in the final 18k, not sure what happens to that. In any case, this heavily affects the GC battle given how tight things are, not sure this is the right way to go about this for that reason.

 

[Berniece]

This is so weird… just finish on top of Ottenburg as a compensation of today. Stopping the time at Ottenburg but letting others still sprint for victory later is extremely weird. Never even heard of such a thing

 

[Netserk]

Good grief.

I find it difficult to imagine the nature of the road that would still be race-able for the stage win, but not for the GC riders.

 

[Boehmand]

This is so weird… just finish on top of Ottenburg as a compensation of today. Stopping the time at Ottenburg but letting others still sprint for victory later is extremely weird. Never even heard of such a thing

The logic probably is for the GC teams to take it easy on the last descent.

But if the GC riders are already in front after gunning it up the last climb, why wouldn't they continue for the stage win after getting rid of the heavier riders?

Outside of possibly Remco, none of these riders shrug off a WT stage win.

 

[Berniece]

Good grief.

I find it difficult to imagine the nature of the road that would still be race-able for the stage win, but not for the GC riders.

Also if the GC riders go all out and have a lead at the top, and there are still bonus seconds on the line at the finish. Won’t they just go for it?