Aero gone wild

[ray j willings]

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^^
You hated the brake near the BB, you don't understand it, yet you think looks good

Extreme Trek bias by any chance Ray

Not sure if I like the raw carbon look.....it looks dirty!
Give me nude brushed Ti any day.

What the **** is it with you guys... I can't post anything without you trying to have a go at me.

Of course I like it because the carbon is naked, like my bike, Its joke ...**** me ,why don't you just lighten up or put me on ignore like the other moron or better still get a ******** life...
I don't report people to mods or put people on ignore but you and your buddys are deliberately acting like idiots and trying to have a go at me every chance you get..
You don't like my bike or my posts etc ,,,GOOD then you and your mates can just **** ***

 

[StinkFist]

ahhhh, OK.

If you read your statement, it's a little confusing / ambiguous.....you hated it, but it looks good -

You'll also notice the grinning face smilie. Don't take it too seriously

Throwing out insults and asking / telling poster to **** off isn't really doing your rep any favours either.....

Maybe spend some time in that small ring of yours.....as they say, a change is as good as a holiday

 

[ray j willings]

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^^
Not sure if I like the raw carbon look.....it looks dirty!
Give me nude brushed Ti any day.

What the **** is it with you guys... I can't post anything without you trying to have a go at me.

Of course I like it because the carbon is naked, like my bike, Its joke ...**** me ,why don't you just lighten up or put me on ignore like the other moron or better still get a ******** life...
I don't report people to mods or put people on ignore but you and your buddys are deliberately acting like idiots and trying to have a go at me every chance you get..
You don't like my bike or my posts etc ,,,GOOD then you and your mates can just **** ***

I thought you had me on ignore. Good to see you keeping up with my posts

My other bike by the way is a custom £5000 frame, Guru photon .,,i'm just building it up now.
Bar/stem combo . seatpost- combo- ISP. SiSL Cranks, carbon chainring's etc you know all the flash cool super light tuned parts . Even lighter than my Trek, it's AWESOME

 

[ray j willings]

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ahhhh, OK.

If you read your statement, it's a little confusing / ambiguous.....you hated it, but it looks good -

You'll also notice the grinning face smilie. Don't take it too seriously

Throwing out insults and asking / telling poster to F@#K off isn't really doing your rep any favours either.....

Maybe spend some time in that small ring of yours.....as they say, a change is as good as a holiday

I think you have mistaken me for some one who give's a **** ,,enjoy

 

[StinkFist]

I think you have mistaken me for some one who give's a **** ,enjoy

why then, do you bother replying??

 

[ray j willings]

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I think you have mistaken me for some one who give's a **** ,,enjoy

why then, do you bother replying??

For you and winky and French fry and the other ******* who just seem to get upset because I ride a light bike ..

This video describes all your posts enjoy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

 

[StinkFist]

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Scott thought that little bit of exposed cable is ok.

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/article/scott-launches-revamped-foil-44613/

Sadly the rear brake has migrated to under the chain stay.

Latest trek Madone, the rear brake is back to where it belongs..but still 2 bolt, direct mount.

And the new Aero design has improved James Huang's test lap times -
Tyre pressure must have been just perfect for a smoother ride though

Unlike on Trek's similarly IsoSpeed-equipped Domane endurance platform, which incorporates an even cushier rear end but can sometimes feel somewhat harsh up front, the new Madone delivers up a more balanced and cohesive feel front to rear. It might not be as comfortable out back as a Domane but then again, as a full-blown race bike, it should be firmer and more communicative.

That all said, riders interested in an aero road bike aren't going to be considering ride quality as their primary metric – we're talking about free speed, after all, and this new Madone seems to have that in spades, too. We haven't had a chance to verify Trek's drag claims – specifically ones comparing it to its major competition – but repeated runs on my regular fast-and-flat test loops surrounding BikeRadar's US offices in Boulder, Colorado have certainly returned consistently lower times relative to non-aero machines. As expected for this segment, the chassis is plenty stiff, too.

Not too sure about their Proprietary Centre Pull Brakes though....hard to comment without using them I suppose. Good plug for Swiss Stop there though -

Full article on the main page -http://www.cyclingnews.com/reviews/trek-madone-9-series-first-ride-review

All these aero (Road, non-TT) bikes are looking very, very similar

Froome-Dawg's Bolide look nice and stealth....running a 56 tooth Isometric Chain Ring as well.

 

[winkybiker]

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[StinkFist]

Classic Campy!
Got a Pic of the whole bike?

 

[42x16ss]

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Scott thought that little bit of exposed cable is ok.

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/article/scott-launches-revamped-foil-44613/

Sadly the rear brake has migrated to under the chain stay.

Latest trek Madone, the rear brake is back to where it belongs..but still 2 bolt, direct mount.

And the new Aero design has improved James Huang's test lap times -
Tyre pressure must have been just perfect for a smoother ride though

Unlike on Trek's similarly IsoSpeed-equipped Domane endurance platform, which incorporates an even cushier rear end but can sometimes feel somewhat harsh up front, the new Madone delivers up a more balanced and cohesive feel front to rear. It might not be as comfortable out back as a Domane but then again, as a full-blown race bike, it should be firmer and more communicative.

That all said, riders interested in an aero road bike aren't going to be considering ride quality as their primary metric – we're talking about free speed, after all, and this new Madone seems to have that in spades, too. We haven't had a chance to verify Trek's drag claims – specifically ones comparing it to its major competition – but repeated runs on my regular fast-and-flat test loops surrounding BikeRadar's US offices in Boulder, Colorado have certainly returned consistently lower times relative to non-aero machines. As expected for this segment, the chassis is plenty stiff, too.

Not too sure about their Proprietary Centre Pull Brakes though....hard to comment without using them I suppose. Good plug for Swiss Stop there though -

Full article on the main page -http://www.cyclingnews.com/reviews/trek-madone-9-series-first-ride-review

All these aero (Road, non-TT) bikes are looking very, very similar

Froome-Dawg's Bolide look nice and stealth....running a 56 tooth Isometric Chain Ring as well.

Just about every Huang-ism covered in a couple of paragraphs! His writing is getting more efficient

 

[The Hegelian]

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Amen, I'm on an old steel Merckx. These aero things are so bloody ugly.

 

[King Boonen]

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When you can buy a bike that looks like these, with all the advantages of a modern groupset, I have no idea why anyone other than racers would buy anything else:

 

[The Hegelian]

Looks and feels. High end steel is beautiful on the inside too. I live in the mountains and am more than happy to take a little extra weight for the feel of steel. Most other riders around here are too busy in digital-strava-carbon world to realise that it's actually fun to ride up and down mountains.....

 

[42x16ss]

All three are absolutely stunning, but as always, I'd chose the Colnago

 

[jmdirt]

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I was just looking at the pics of Sagan's Specialized ViAS, and I like the design of the rear brake.

I'm sure it's great. Right up until you have to change the pads and cable housing....

When it needs new pads or cables, its time for a new bike!

 

[winkybiker]

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Looks and feels. High end steel is beautiful on the inside too. I live in the mountains and am more than happy to take a little extra weight for the feel of steel. Most other riders around here are too busy in digital-strava-carbon world to realise that it's actually fun to ride up and down mountains.....

Well, I'm pretty carboned-up, but no strava, no computer, no power-meter. I just ride for the sheer joy of it. I judge how well I'm going by how it feels. That's it. I strive for that glorious feeling that I get when I just want to push harder on the climb, and find not only that I can, but that I can hold onto it to the top. Add the scenery, the fresh air, the company, the weight control (mine - not the bike's), the extra food I get to eat, and that it gets me places I want to go, and cycling is all just win-win for me. I don't need no stinkin' strava.

 

[The Hegelian]

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Looks and feels. High end steel is beautiful on the inside too. I live in the mountains and am more than happy to take a little extra weight for the feel of steel. Most other riders around here are too busy in digital-strava-carbon world to realise that it's actually fun to ride up and down mountains.....

Well, I'm pretty carboned-up, but no strava, no computer, no power-meter. I just ride for the sheer joy of it. I judge how well I'm going by how it feels. That's it. I strive for that glorious feeling that I get when I just want to push harder on the climb, and find not only that I can, but that I can hold onto it to the top. Add the scenery, the fresh air, the company, the weight control (mine - not the bike's), the extra food I get to eat, and that it gets me places I want to go, and cycling is all just win-win for me. I don't need no stinkin' strava.

Beautiful to hear! Was not intending to be a steel hipster snob over the carbon masses; I recently purchased a carbon XC bike, and it provides its own joy. Very quick on the gas. You're damn right about that glorious moment when the usual suffering becomes embodied power. It's a fine line isn't it....when you're on the wrong side of it, the struggle is immense.

 

[King Boonen]

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Looks and feels. High end steel is beautiful on the inside too. I live in the mountains and am more than happy to take a little extra weight for the feel of steel. Most other riders around here are too busy in digital-strava-carbon world to realise that it's actually fun to ride up and down mountains.....

Absolutely! My steel road bike it about 9.4kgs or 20.5ish pounds. It's Reynolds 853 Pro Race tubes so pretty stiff but still give you the feel and give you expect from high quality steel. It's also a pretty aggressive geometry so i feel I get the best of both worlds. I fully accept you can make forgiving carbon bikes, but the majority of the big brands frames will still beat you up over the roads I ride and unless you're a Cat. 1 amateur AND involved in a race, it'll make very little difference. I keep up fine on club rides (I drop on some climbs due to not being as good as other guys but on of our best climbers beats most people on his old, steel fixed wheel ) and really enjoy my time on the bike. When we do 100+ miles some of the guys on their carbon race machines look pretty uncomfortable by the end...

For me, steel is the perfect material to make a bike out of. That's based on me sitting down going over the properties of the materials and my requirements with my brother who is a Eng.D. engineer and a cycling friend who is a Ph.D. materials scientist who works for Rolls Royce in their jet engines division. I KNOW carbon is best for some people and some situations, but I can only afford one road bike and steel works best for me

All three are absolutely stunning, but as always, I'd chose the Colnago

I would, 99% of the time, agree with you. I will, at some point have Gilco tubing in my life and properly experience riding it. But that San Cristobal is something else. I'd be hard pushed not to choose that.

Well, I'm pretty carboned-up, but no strava, no computer, no power-meter. I just ride for the sheer joy of it. I judge how well I'm going by how it feels. That's it. I strive for that glorious feeling that I get when I just want to push harder on the climb, and find not only that I can, but that I can hold onto it to the top. Add the scenery, the fresh air, the company, the weight control (mine - not the bike's), the extra food I get to eat, and that it gets me places I want to go, and cycling is all just win-win for me. I don't need no stinkin' strava.

I use Strava, but mainly to see where I've been. I've got a Garmin that can accept routes so I can go places I've never been and it'll also route me home so I can get lost exploring and then find my way back with no troubles. It has a HRM, so I use it on club runs or if I'm purposefully training for something but it's not actually displayed during my ride any more. I look at it afterwards. I'm like you, I can judge how I'm going by how I feel. I know if my legs are tired or need warming up, I know if I haven't eaten enough beforehand or need to drink and I don't need a HRM to tell me I'm pushing too hard on the climbs or I'm about to bonk.

I'm a cyclist, I just love to get on a bike and ride somewhere

 

[blutto]

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I was just looking at the pics of Sagan's Specialized ViAS, and I like the design of the rear brake.

I'm sure it's great. Right up until you have to change the pads and cable housing....

When it needs new pads or cables, its time for a new bike!

....yes, that is the First Law of the Quantum Bicycle Universe... where the size of said universe is defined by the constant N+1 ( and assumes a constantly expanding universe )....

Cheers

 

[The Hegelian]

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Absolutely! My steel road bike it about 9.4kgs or 20.5ish pounds. It's Reynolds 853 Pro Race tubes so pretty stiff but still give you the feel and give you expect from high quality steel. It's also a pretty aggressive geometry so i feel I get the best of both worlds. I fully accept you can make forgiving carbon bikes, but the majority of the big brands frames will still beat you up over the roads I ride and unless you're a Cat. 1 amateur AND involved in a race, it'll make very little difference. I keep up fine on club rides (I drop on some climbs due to not being as good as other guys but on of our best climbers beats most people on his old, steel fixed wheel ) and really enjoy my time on the bike. When we do 100+ miles some of the guys on their carbon race machines look pretty uncomfortable by the end...

For me, steel is the perfect material to make a bike out of. That's based on me sitting down going over the properties of the materials and my requirements with my brother who is a Eng.D. engineer and a cycling friend who is a Ph.D. materials scientist who works for Rolls Royce in their jet engines division. I KNOW carbon is best for some people and some situations, but I can only afford one road bike and steel works best for me

I got there less scientifically - I jumped on a friends steel steed and was just blown away by the liveliness of it. I never knew what that vague term referred to, even though it was oft used in reviews. Mine is Columbus MXL - which was made especially for Merckx's MX Leaders. It was really designed for heavy riders bashing though cobbles, which is not me at all, but it is just so damn sweet.

 

[Angliru]

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I was just looking at the pics of Sagan's Specialized ViAS, and I like the design of the rear brake.

I'm sure it's great. Right up until you have to change the pads and cable housing....

Well I'm sure that if one can afford the bike they can also afford to pay someone trained to work on it.

 

[42x16ss]

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I was just looking at the pics of Sagan's Specialized ViAS, and I like the design of the rear brake.

I'm sure it's great. Right up until you have to change the pads and cable housing....

Well I'm sure that if one can afford the bike they can also afford to pay someone trained to work on it.

True but not everyone leaves their maintenance to a shop wrench

 

[winkybiker]

Neither Sagan nor Cav were on the new Venge at the finish today. Any ideas why?

 

[42x16ss]

I'd take a guess but I'd probably offend the Specialized fans

 

[JackRabbitSlims]

maybe they just don't like the new bike??
some of these guys can be real finicky about their rides and the set-up.....as you would expect.

Cav rode the new ViAS in stage 2 & 3, went back to the old Venge for the Cobbled stage & stage 5.....

unlike Contador who is doing bike-swaps during the stage as the conditions dictate....maybe Cav, Sagan etc look at the stage and choose a bike characteristic that they think suits them best on that given day??