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lol, and lol again.
maybe he should have said he dislocated his shoulder 5 times and popped it in, then maybe, just maybe you would have realized it's all a lie.
just ask yourself this: does the ITT come after the second rest day. that will answer your question as to how well he does.
lol. you can lead a horse to water...
WheelofGear said:
lol, and lol again.
maybe he should have said he dislocated his shoulder 5 times and popped it in, then maybe, just maybe you would have realized it's all a lie.
just ask yourself this: does the ITT come after the second rest day. that will answer your question as to how well he does.
lol. you can lead a horse to water...
You only think there will be 30 seconds between Porte and Uran?
Surely Uran will win by more than a minute.
Surely Uran will win by more than a minute.
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Just wondering if the mods can't do anything about all this doping innuendo from Big Doppie.
Just wondering if the mods can't do anything about all this doping innuendo from Big Doppie.
Interesting that Contador is worried by his shoulder and position for that huge TT. It's going to be nearly 80 minutes of pain.
http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/05/news/contador-worried-about-tt-ambush-after-dodging-more-bullets_370502
http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/05/news/contador-worried-about-tt-ambush-after-dodging-more-bullets_370502
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I am quite sure Uran will take 40 to 60 seconds on Berto, maybe a bit more
Porte, I could see him gaining 30s, or losing 30s on Berto.
See where I'm coming from?
Hmm let me try to explain itNetserk said:
I am quite sure Uran will take 40 to 60 seconds on Berto, maybe a bit more
Porte, I could see him gaining 30s, or losing 30s on Berto.
See where I'm coming from?
DBotero said:
Porte and Contador looking ok,Aru not so good.
Basing your opinion on these photos is just plain silly.
1 second later they all have an different facial expression....
@Flo
I am. I don't think Porte will do super-duper. Contador will depend on his shoulder. If it was tomorrow, I'd expect Porte to beat Contador. In a week I think Contador will beat Porte.
As it is now Cataldo is the rider most likely to take pink from Alberto, but I think Contador will continue his trend and not lose it at any point.
I am. I don't think Porte will do super-duper. Contador will depend on his shoulder. If it was tomorrow, I'd expect Porte to beat Contador. In a week I think Contador will beat Porte.
As it is now Cataldo is the rider most likely to take pink from Alberto, but I think Contador will continue his trend and not lose it at any point.
Seriously...
So much conspiracies going on. Ofcourse Contador broke his leg last year. Sure his leg wasn't broken in two else he couldn't ride the Vuelta, but their was a fissure and that certainly didn't help him.
This Giro he had a shoulder dislocation. This can be very painful, but 1 dislocation isn't the same as the other (no talking about his 2 dislocations now). Apparently his certainly hurts, but it isn't a really bad one else I'd doubt he would be able to race at all.
Contador is a professional cyclist and as you all know cyclists are damn tough guys. Specially when it's about enduring pain. I think there ain't much sports where the athlete has such a high pain tolerance (fight sports probably). So they can endure quite something. For example Hamilton riding on with a broken collarbone etc.
No doubt Contador has pain and maybe today it was allready a lot better then yesterday, but it's likely the pain he had yesterday and today is more then I could deal with. I can't deal with that much pain tbh ;D
So much conspiracies going on. Ofcourse Contador broke his leg last year. Sure his leg wasn't broken in two else he couldn't ride the Vuelta, but their was a fissure and that certainly didn't help him.
This Giro he had a shoulder dislocation. This can be very painful, but 1 dislocation isn't the same as the other (no talking about his 2 dislocations now). Apparently his certainly hurts, but it isn't a really bad one else I'd doubt he would be able to race at all.
Contador is a professional cyclist and as you all know cyclists are damn tough guys. Specially when it's about enduring pain. I think there ain't much sports where the athlete has such a high pain tolerance (fight sports probably). So they can endure quite something. For example Hamilton riding on with a broken collarbone etc.
No doubt Contador has pain and maybe today it was allready a lot better then yesterday, but it's likely the pain he had yesterday and today is more then I could deal with. I can't deal with that much pain tbh ;D
I agree with you, not from the photo, but I have a feeling Aru won't be as dangerous as Porte (ok I dont think he won't be terrific either).In fact I think Porte might has something in the sleeve but Aru seems to be frustrated with these attacks, he doesnt have legs to drop AC, Im almost sure with that now.DBotero said:LaFlorecita said:lol they all look similarly good/bad to meDBotero said:
Porte and Contador looking ok,Aru not so good.
Ok,maybe i'm just seeing things
Yea,there is always the recovery thing and 3rd week performance, but there AC should be stronger.
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Probably because I want to believe the better outcome .We will see...like I said before the Giro, Im not worried about the Giro but Im worried about June.(also wondering if he really rides Sud)
This is an interesting point, actually I said the exact opposite 2 days ago but I changed my mind.mrhender said:
Probably because I want to believe the better outcome .We will see...like I said before the Giro, Im not worried about the Giro but Im worried about June.(also wondering if he really rides Sud)
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Didn't he even say that he barely had to go out of his TT position at all on these climbs?LaFlorecita said:No way Contador wins that TT, it's way too flat and way too long for him. But I doubt he'll lose much. 1 minute max to Uran and 30 seconds max to Porte. I would not be surprised if he beats Porte.WheelofGear said:
Alberto says he barely has to go out of the saddle, the hills are that flat (
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Yeah, that's what I meantMayomaniac said:Didn't he even say that he barely has to go out of his TT position at all on these climbs.LaFlorecita said:No way Contador wins that TT, it's way too flat and way too long for him. But I doubt he'll lose much. 1 minute max to Uran and 30 seconds max to Porte. I would not be surprised if he beats Porte.WheelofGear said:
Alberto says he barely has to go out of the saddle, the hills are that flat (
How I see ITT results
Uran winning
Porte 1'
Alberto 1'10''
Cataldo 1'20''
Konig 1'50''
Fabio 1'55''
Uran winning
Porte 1'
Alberto 1'10''
Cataldo 1'20''
Konig 1'50''
Fabio 1'55''
I'm really wondering when did this Route du Sud talk start, because there's not any statement from Alberto himself, he never even mentioned this race.
A few days before the Giro, he said what he would do between giro-tour and that was barely spend like 3 days in Spain, maybe celebrating a bit if he wins then he would go back to Italy and isolate himself at altitude until the Tour.
That's all he said.
Riding Route du sud would be a really bad idea, it's not a proper training especially after Giro, he wouldn't need more race days. And he would expose himself to stupid crashes again in peloton or you never know with his bad luck recently.
A few days before the Giro, he said what he would do between giro-tour and that was barely spend like 3 days in Spain, maybe celebrating a bit if he wins then he would go back to Italy and isolate himself at altitude until the Tour.
That's all he said.
Riding Route du sud would be a really bad idea, it's not a proper training especially after Giro, he wouldn't need more race days. And he would expose himself to stupid crashes again in peloton or you never know with his bad luck recently.
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I think it depends a lot on how steep the gradients are. Aru could surprise if there just are a few 5k, 5% hills.
If they are 3% for 3k, it wouldn't matter much.
ILovecycling said:
I think it depends a lot on how steep the gradients are. Aru could surprise if there just are a few 5k, 5% hills.
If they are 3% for 3k, it wouldn't matter much.
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5 kms at 5% will not make up for the time lost in the approximately 45 kms of flat roads. This Time trial will be extremely important, there are gonna be big differences. The gaps some of you suggested would be on a 30 km hilly Vuelta TT. This is very long.
WheelofGear said:
5 kms at 5% will not make up for the time lost in the approximately 45 kms of flat roads. This Time trial will be extremely important, there are gonna be big differences. The gaps some of you suggested would be on a 30 km hilly Vuelta TT. This is very long.
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There are few kickers but none of them last more than 2k.Still his new TT form is unknown, I am calculating that he will be a lot stronger than last year.WheelofGear said:
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It's an extremely long time trial. The gaps will be much bigger than that - I for one expect Porte to take pink if he goes in with the 24 second deficit that he has now.
ILovecycling said:
It's an extremely long time trial. The gaps will be much bigger than that - I for one expect Porte to take pink if he goes in with the 24 second deficit that he has now.
Porte is overrated as a TTer, especially since he has lost weight. Porte won't take pink from Contador.
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