My thinking is that I want him to arrive at the Tour in the best possible shape. I welcome anything that makes that more likely, such as Porte's mechanical today.damian13ster said:So what you are hoping for is worst win in GT history?
That would be in way worse style than Wiggins in Tour de France 2012 and Contador in Vuelta 2014.
At least in those mentioned cases time was gained in individual time trial, and then there was wheelsucking until the end.
In this case it would be time gained through Team Time Trial, opponent mechanical on pancake- flat stage and then wheelsucking until the end.
Don't get your thinking at all
I agree with you, that's why I don't understand the hate for Wiggins and his Tour victory. That wouldn't make him an undeserving winner.The_Cheech said:Technically, if you wheelsuck "until the end" you do not win, it's a universal truth.damian13ster said:So what you are hoping for is worst win in GT history?ILovecycling said:I hope you are right, but its still long way offSeriousSam said:Great day for Contador with Porte having that mechanical. Bert's chances to keep the maglia rosa after the TT are now much better. If so, the Giro is pretty much won and he won't have to go nuclear in the mountains and can just follow Aru and Porte, out-sprinting them in last 800m like he did with Froome last year. Meaning he can save energy for the Tour.
The double is ON![]()
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That would be in way worse style than Wiggins in Tour de France 2012 and Contador in Vuelta 2014.
At least in those mentioned cases time was gained in individual time trial, and then there was wheelsucking until the end.
In this case it would be time gained through Team Time Trial, opponent mechanical on pancake- flat stage and then wheelsucking until the end.
Don't get your thinking at all
Froom rode his race and lost. Simple as that.
Cycling is easy: If you're in front, you can take a passive role and let others make the race entertaining. Froome tried and lost.
well now that Porte is down 1'+ to Contador, the likelihood that there will be lots of attacks pre-Stage 14 (Porte) and after (Aru and possibly Contador), I would say you have nothing to complain about.damian13ster said:I agree with you, that's why I don't understand the hate for Wiggins and his Tour victory. That wouldn't make him an undeserving winner.The_Cheech said:Technically, if you wheelsuck "until the end" you do not win, it's a universal truth.damian13ster said:So what you are hoping for is worst win in GT history?ILovecycling said:I hope you are right, but its still long way offSeriousSam said:Great day for Contador with Porte having that mechanical. Bert's chances to keep the maglia rosa after the TT are now much better. If so, the Giro is pretty much won and he won't have to go nuclear in the mountains and can just follow Aru and Porte, out-sprinting them in last 800m like he did with Froome last year. Meaning he can save energy for the Tour.
The double is ON![]()
VAM9S![]()
That would be in way worse style than Wiggins in Tour de France 2012 and Contador in Vuelta 2014.
At least in those mentioned cases time was gained in individual time trial, and then there was wheelsucking until the end.
In this case it would be time gained through Team Time Trial, opponent mechanical on pancake- flat stage and then wheelsucking until the end.
Don't get your thinking at all
Froom rode his race and lost. Simple as that.
Cycling is easy: If you're in front, you can take a passive role and let others make the race entertaining. Froome tried and lost.
It would make it really boring though and as a neutral cycling spectator I don't want to see that. I want to see attacks all over the place and not race being decided by TTT and mechanical (if it really comes down to that)
Yeah because Contador didn't attack before the two mountain stages where they battled against each other?damian13ster said:So what you are hoping for is worst win in GT history?ILovecycling said:I hope you are right, but its still long way offSeriousSam said:Great day for Contador with Porte having that mechanical. Bert's chances to keep the maglia rosa after the TT are now much better. If so, the Giro is pretty much won and he won't have to go nuclear in the mountains and can just follow Aru and Porte, out-sprinting them in last 800m like he did with Froome last year. Meaning he can save energy for the Tour.
The double is ON![]()
VAM9S![]()
That would be in way worse style than Wiggins in Tour de France 2012 and Contador in Vuelta 2014.
At least in those mentioned cases time was gained in individual time trial, and then there was wheelsucking until the end.
In this case it would be time gained through Team Time Trial, opponent mechanical on pancake- flat stage and then wheelsucking until the end.
Don't get your thinking at all
LMAO First of all there's no TT spec in this race. None of the greats are here.murali said:2' min on Uran is not a safe gap for a 59km flat+hilly TT. Uran wil probably win this long TT with over a min on other TT specialists and over 2 min on other GC contenders.
If aru and bertie distanced porte in an mountain stage, they will work together as long as contador is sure that aru wont get too much time bonuses.
Yep. Fat Contador was stronger than skinny Porte in that race too. But Porte counter-attacked him in the finish just like Contador did with Froome.Fernandez said:What about Porte winning Volta Catalunya because Valverde was cut in the crash of that descent? Isnt it the same? The Volta had Valverdes name as the winner, he was the stronger. So dont complain too much, this is racing.
Contador could have won the double in 2011 without bad luck.Fernandez said:What about Porte winning Volta Catalunya because Valverde was cut in the crash of that descent? Isnt it the same? The Volta had Valverdes name as the winner, he was the stronger. So dont complain too much, this is racing.
Lol. And suddenly from nowhere we hear Uran. Where do you get everything from?murali said:2' min on Uran is not a safe gap for a 59km flat+hilly TT. Uran wil probably win this long TT with over a min on other TT specialists and over 2 min on other GC contenders.
If aru and bertie distanced porte in an mountain stage, they will work together as long as contador is sure that aru wont get too much time bonuses.
“It was a day of ‘active rest’, with a lot of tension in the finale, I’m pleased I got through it without any problems.” This compared sharply to his activity on the rest day where he revealed he had spent the bulk of the day sleeping “like a [hibernating] bear in winter.”
With Porte now being hit with a 2' penalty, Contador basically only has to defend his small margin over Aru, crush Aru in the ITT and then defend his lead the rest of the way. In fact, it is more likely that you see Tinkoff collude with Sky against Astana. Porte is a much bigger threat to Aru than he is to Contador.Electress said:Does anyone think there may be an Astana /Tinkoff alliance formed to distance Porte before the ITT? They've done so to get rid of Rigo, and I can see it would benefit both to remove another contender if possible.
It will be interesting to see how Porte responds - if he's got the mental toughness of Contador (well, no, that is probably asking too much, but at least can not panic / over-react or crack up etc.)
I meant chokes as doesn't finish, not actually George Bush choking on a pretzel-type of choking.LaFlorecita said:Well aren't you nice.patrick24 said:I hope he chokes (for reasons I can't say on this forum).
Does anyone remember that time airstream said Contador should be shot in the head![]()
Contador choke? Never happen, the man has nerves of steel.patrick24 said:I meant chokes as doesn't finish, not actually George Bush choking on a pretzel-type of choking.LaFlorecita said:Well aren't you nice.patrick24 said:I hope he chokes (for reasons I can't say on this forum).
Does anyone remember that time airstream said Contador should be shot in the head![]()
That is good to hear, you are not as bad as airstream thenpatrick24 said:I meant chokes as doesn't finish, not actually George Bush choking on a pretzel-type of choking.LaFlorecita said:Well aren't you nice.patrick24 said:I hope he chokes (for reasons I can't say on this forum).
Does anyone remember that time airstream said Contador should be shot in the head![]()