Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

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My two cents here, if Contador can recover he'll be podium minimum, I think his biggest threats come from Froome and especially Quintana. As for Nibali, I don't know, I kind of see him in a similar light to Sastre in 2008, both won the Tour when the competition wasn't particularly high. All things being equal I don't see Nibali on the podium.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Toso is a monster. I wouldn't say they have a guy better suited to protect a GC leader on the flat terrain.
I don't think he will be on the team though, although I would like it.

Edit: and if Tinkov insists on a random Russian even though there are at least 5 better replacements, he is an even bigger idiot than I already thought.

 

[Netserk]

Imo the best line up (from what we know now) would be:
Contador
Majka
Kreuziger
Rogers
Kiserlovski
Sagan
Bennati
Tosatto
Bodnar (Valgren if Bodnar isn't ready)

 

[jens_attacks]

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I'm not sure he will be beaten by Valverde, but it is more likely to occur than not in my opinion. Would bet on it.

We can be very sure he will be beaten by Nibali, or do you think we also cannot be sure he will be outclimbed by Quintana, Froome and Contador? Out of those, Nibali and Froome have shown the strongest climbing in recent years.

http://www.climbing-records.com/2014/12/the-2014-subiendo-como-una-moto-awards.html

"After being hold by another rider for a period of two years, the title of the best climber in the world comes back on the shoulders of the Spanish champion, Alberto Contador. Even if he crashed out of the Tour de France while supposedly, being in his best form ever, he still managed to return and reach at the end of the second week of La Vuelta a Espana, the same climbing level as in his dominating years."

Holy crap, thats the most subjective article I have ever read in my life (and I read quite a bit). Absolutely 0 facts, 0 numbers, just an opinion of an author, and somehow you are using it here as an argument? Because you found one guy who agrees with your opinion and made uninformative blog post about it? You cant be serious?

probably most accurate description ever thanks
except the numbers thing 'cause that's what that blog is about. and i'm never subjective there, only here lol.
contador for the douuuuubleeeeeeeeeeeee vamooooooooooos

 

[jens_attacks]

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I'm not sure he will be beaten by Valverde, but it is more likely to occur than not in my opinion. Would bet on it.

We can be very sure he will be beaten by Nibali, or do you think we also cannot be sure he will be outclimbed by Quintana, Froome and Contador? Out of those, Nibali and Froome have shown the strongest climbing in recent years.

http://www.climbing-records.com/2014/12/the-2014-subiendo-como-una-moto-awards.html

"After being hold by another rider for a period of two years, the title of the best climber in the world comes back on the shoulders of the Spanish champion, Alberto Contador. Even if he crashed out of the Tour de France while supposedly, being in his best form ever, he still managed to return and reach at the end of the second week of La Vuelta a Espana, the same climbing level as in his dominating years."

Holy crap, thats the most subjective article I have ever read in my life (and I read quite a bit). Absolutely 0 facts, 0 numbers, just an opinion of an author, and somehow you are using it here as an argument? Because you found one guy who agrees with your opinion and made uninformative blog post about it? You cant be serious?

that's legendary jens_attacks' blog

hype hype hype luv it florry

any recent pics of alberto by the way? i'm curious if he will already be skinnier in ruta del sol(route du sud actually lol) than in il giro and by how much
in le tour, he should be around 2 maybe kilos slimmer than in il giro

 

[ILovecycling]

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Phew, skimmed many pages for nonsense, again.

Bodnar won't be on the TdF team, he had a double collarbone fracture at Cali. Jesus won't be on the TdF team either, apparently he's too 'fragile'..
Reckon it's
AC
Rogers
Kreuziger
Bennati
Sagan
Tosatto
Majka
A Russian
?

Valgren and Kiserlovski.But Im not sure with Tosso either

 

[ILovecycling]

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I'm not sure he will be beaten by Valverde, but it is more likely to occur than not in my opinion. Would bet on it.

We can be very sure he will be beaten by Nibali, or do you think we also cannot be sure he will be outclimbed by Quintana, Froome and Contador? Out of those, Nibali and Froome have shown the strongest climbing in recent years.

http://www.climbing-records.com/2014/12/the-2014-subiendo-como-una-moto-awards.html

"After being hold by another rider for a period of two years, the title of the best climber in the world comes back on the shoulders of the Spanish champion, Alberto Contador. Even if he crashed out of the Tour de France while supposedly, being in his best form ever, he still managed to return and reach at the end of the second week of La Vuelta a Espana, the same climbing level as in his dominating years."

Holy crap, thats the most subjective article I have ever read in my life (and I read quite a bit). Absolutely 0 facts, 0 numbers, just an opinion of an author, and somehow you are using it here as an argument? Because you found one guy who agrees with your opinion and made uninformative blog post about it? You cant be serious?

that's legendary jens_attacks' blog

hype hype hype luv it florry

any recent pics of alberto by the way? i'm curious if he will already be skinnier in ruta del sol(route du sud actually lol) than in il giro and by how much
in le tour, he should be around 2 maybe kilos slimmer than in il giro

Alberto pic from yesterday near Lago di Lugano

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CG08oKHW8AAoZJm.jpg:large

 

[LaFlorecita]

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CG08oKHW8AAoZJm.jpg:large

brutal pic on the cover of that magazine , besides that he doesn't look a whole lot slimmer but we can't really judge his shape from this photo

 

[SeriousSam]

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I'm not sure he will be beaten by Valverde, but it is more likely to occur than not in my opinion. Would bet on it.

We can be very sure he will be beaten by Nibali, or do you think we also cannot be sure he will be outclimbed by Quintana, Froome and Contador? Out of those, Nibali and Froome have shown the strongest climbing in recent years.

http://www.climbing-records.com/2014/12/the-2014-subiendo-como-una-moto-awards.html

"After being hold by another rider for a period of two years, the title of the best climber in the world comes back on the shoulders of the Spanish champion, Alberto Contador. Even if he crashed out of the Tour de France while supposedly, being in his best form ever, he still managed to return and reach at the end of the second week of La Vuelta a Espana, the same climbing level as in his dominating years."

Holy crap, thats the most subjective article I have ever read in my life (and I read quite a bit). Absolutely 0 facts, 0 numbers, just an opinion of an author, and somehow you are using it here as an argument? Because you found one guy who agrees with your opinion and made uninformative blog post about it? You cant be serious?

probably most accurate description ever thanks
except the numbers thing 'cause that's what that blog is about. and i'm never subjective there, only here lol.
contador for the douuuuubleeeeeeeeeeeee vamooooooooooos

Didn't know that's your website. I check it religiously after every major climb. Most of the time, I'm disappointed to learn the 90s guys were 3 minutes quicker.

Why, though, do you feel Gilbert's Cauberg record was more impressive than Valverde's Mur?

 

[Carols]

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CG08oKHW8AAoZJm.jpg:large

brutal pic on the cover of that magazine , besides that he doesn't look a whole lot slimmer but we can't really judge his shape from this photo

The cover pic may have been from the Mortirolo chase back. Not brutal, just in full gas mode . He looks rested and that is what is important now!

 

[LaFlorecita]

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CG08oKHW8AAoZJm.jpg:large

brutal pic on the cover of that magazine , besides that he doesn't look a whole lot slimmer but we can't really judge his shape from this photo

The cover pic may have been from the Mortirolo chase back. Not brutal, just in full gas mode . He looks rested and that is what is important now!

it was stage 12

 

[Carols]

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CG08oKHW8AAoZJm.jpg:large

brutal pic on the cover of that magazine , besides that he doesn't look a whole lot slimmer but we can't really judge his shape from this photo

The cover pic may have been from the Mortirolo chase back. Not brutal, just in full gas mode . He looks rested and that is what is important now!

it was stage 12

Indeed when PhilGil won by Alberto showed wheels to everyone else .

 

[BlurryVII]

On this video, he looks fatter at the moment... This is probably 1 or 2 days old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztY9Ww7tzyw

 

[bill1109]

this link also has some pics from that and other stages

http://features.cyclingtips.com.au/giro-ditalia-photo-gallery-3

 

[Carols]

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On this video, he looks fatter at the moment... This is probably 1 or 2 days old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztY9Ww7tzyw

He looks tired

 

[Squirbos_19]

Jay McCarthy just came 7th in the Dauphine. He should get a spot in the Tour team, I really hope he does but he'll need a super Dauphine. He'd be handy for Sagan and to help Berto in the hills.

 

[BlurryVII]

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On this video, he looks fatter at the moment... This is probably 1 or 2 days old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztY9Ww7tzyw

He looks tired

That too... but we all look kinda tired in the morning

 

[LaFlorecita]

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He looks rested

He looks tired

 

[Carols]

Re: Re:

He looks rested

He looks tired

I know in the vid he looks exhausted, in the picture he looks rested . Different days/times obviously!

 

[jens_attacks]

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I'm not sure he will be beaten by Valverde, but it is more likely to occur than not in my opinion. Would bet on it.

We can be very sure he will be beaten by Nibali, or do you think we also cannot be sure he will be outclimbed by Quintana, Froome and Contador? Out of those, Nibali and Froome have shown the strongest climbing in recent years.

http://www.climbing-records.com/2014/12/the-2014-subiendo-como-una-moto-awards.html

"After being hold by another rider for a period of two years, the title of the best climber in the world comes back on the shoulders of the Spanish champion, Alberto Contador. Even if he crashed out of the Tour de France while supposedly, being in his best form ever, he still managed to return and reach at the end of the second week of La Vuelta a Espana, the same climbing level as in his dominating years."

Holy crap, thats the most subjective article I have ever read in my life (and I read quite a bit). Absolutely 0 facts, 0 numbers, just an opinion of an author, and somehow you are using it here as an argument? Because you found one guy who agrees with your opinion and made uninformative blog post about it? You cant be serious?

probably most accurate description ever thanks
except the numbers thing 'cause that's what that blog is about. and i'm never subjective there, only here lol.
contador for the douuuuubleeeeeeeeeeeee vamooooooooooos

Didn't know that's your website. I check it religiously after every major climb. Most of the time, I'm disappointed to learn the 90s guys were 3 minutes quicker.

Why, though, do you feel Gilbert's Cauberg record was more impressive than Valverde's Mur?

give another 3 years to cookson and maybe things will change
don't remember my logic from the time, probably because i think balaverde's record can easily fall(dan martin, but he can't stay on his bike). phil at 100% though can't see anyone going faster on cauberg for now...


and thanks for the pics peeps. alberto still fat then

 

[ILovecycling]

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On this video, he looks fatter at the moment... This is probably 1 or 2 days old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztY9Ww7tzyw

He looks tired

And surely overweight, I dont know ..he hasnt got too much time left to lose weight

 

[LaFlorecita]

Sheesh you guys... "he looks fat" "he looks tired" "he looks overweight"....

 

[ILovecycling]

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Sheesh you guys... "he looks fat" "he looks tired" "he looks overweight"....

it is true tho

Seriously, he needs to be below his Giro weight if he wants to win Tour, I dont know if he can make it, there are only 2 weeks until RdS

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Sheesh you guys... "he looks fat" "he looks tired" "he looks overweight"....

it is true tho

Seriously, he needs to be below his Giro weight if he wants to win Tour, I dont know if he can make it, there are only 2 weeks until RdS

I don't know, I can't judge from a video where I can only see his face

 

[Carols]

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Sheesh you guys... "he looks fat" "he looks tired" "he looks overweight"....

it is true tho

Seriously, he needs to be below his Giro weight if he wants to win Tour, I dont know if he can make it, there are only 2 weeks until RdS

I don't know, I can't judge from a video where I can only see his face

Well he sure doesn't look overweight to me!!