Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[LaFlorecita]

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Why wouldn't he? If Froome doesn't lose major time tommorow he will be a huge favorite for the win. And looking at how comfortable he was during echelons he should put more time into Contador and Quintana.
By stage 11 the GC will be over unless Nibali does something

Yeah, Tour over by stage 3, get out if that's your attitude. So many things can happen still.

Issues with comprehensive reading? It will be over by stage 11.

Issues with Nibali fanbois/Contador haters like you.

 

[damian13ster]

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Why wouldn't he? If Froome doesn't lose major time tommorow he will be a huge favorite for the win. And looking at how comfortable he was during echelons he should put more time into Contador and Quintana.
By stage 11 the GC will be over unless Nibali does something

Froome will put more time into AC where? You do know Tinkov was vital in helping those echelons start right? Froome was just a passenger. I can't see him being the one proactive in gaining time on flat stages; he has said himself he just wants to survive the first week. Now, of course in the mountains he will be active in taking more time out of his rivals.

So? He saved his strength and gained time to all 3 of his rivals in the flat stage. He will do the same tommorow (except for Nibali). All he has to do is follow Astana/Etixx and Quintana + likely Contador judging by his perfomances so far will be gone.
He doesn't actually have to attack on the cobbles to gain time on them...

 

[damian13ster]

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Why wouldn't he? If Froome doesn't lose major time tommorow he will be a huge favorite for the win. And looking at how comfortable he was during echelons he should put more time into Contador and Quintana.
By stage 11 the GC will be over unless Nibali does something

Yeah, Tour over by stage 3, get out if that's your attitude. So many things can happen still.

Issues with comprehensive reading? It will be over by stage 11.

Issues with Nibali fanbois/Contador haters like you.

Bookmark it if you want. You know I am right. You can't be that blinded to believe otherwise

 

[LaFlorecita]

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So? He saved his strength and gained time to all 3 of his rivals in the flat stage. He will do the same tommorow (except for Nibali). All he has to do is follow Astana/Etixx and Quintana + likely Contador judging by his perfomances so far will be gone.
He doesn't actually have to attack on the cobbles to gain time on them...

Looks like you got lost on your way to the Froome thread. It's right around the corner.

 

[Kwibus]

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When Flor is calm, all that hails Contador is calm

duuh

After the time trial everyone was freaking out because he lost 7 seconds, and I was like, wtf, first day, ITT, 7s lost, what the hell is 7s.

You are calm though. In the past you would lose your temper easily. Good though!

Stay upbeat!

Gooo alberto

 

[damian13ster]

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So? He saved his strength and gained time to all 3 of his rivals in the flat stage. He will do the same tommorow (except for Nibali). All he has to do is follow Astana/Etixx and Quintana + likely Contador judging by his perfomances so far will be gone.
He doesn't actually have to attack on the cobbles to gain time on them...

Looks like you got lost on your way to the Froome thread. It's right around the corner.

You were the one who brought up Froome (deleting quotation from your own post not to show that). I just responded to your post. I understand though, you might be pretty annoyed now and logical thinking is clearly not your strongest suit

 

[gunara]

Today was bad. But even in 2011 and 2013, I kept my hope to the end, while still bit my nail at the final stage of last year's Vuelta. I must admit fanboyism often blur the sight and make you ignore the obvious, but that can also mean it prevent you from making a hasty conclusion. So I stay calm.

 

[Carols]

Well he isn't looking to good just yet, but there is still a loooong way to go. My expectation today was a top 5 so this was disappointing. Hopefully better things to come soon. I'd like to hear what he has to say before the TCS PR machine gets involved with their press release!

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Bookmark it if you want. You know I am right. You can't be that blinded to believe otherwise

I'm smart enough not to draw conclusions after 3 days of racing when anything can still happen.

 

[No_Balls]

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Wow, amazing how quickly you guys give up on Alberto. I don't know what to say...

He just came from the Giro, from a hard Giro. Give him time. Anything can happen.

If he loses major time in the Pyrenees THEN we can say it's all over.

We are so used with the general "OMG it is all over" attitude if not everything goes according to the script (which is a demand to smash everything out of sight) and even when it goes fairly good there is a somewhat general pessism due to the belief it could always go better, why this was expected. Add to that the usual haters who are quick to log in and drop their innuendos here to add fuel to the fire (See: Damians post for example).

Perhaps "we" are so used to be on the winning side that a fear of losing has taken over some posters judgement that you have to be overly pessimistic in order to handle the eventual situation later. It happens when something you cheer on grows on you.

But he will be fine.

 

[Alexandre B.]

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When Flor is calm, all that hails Contador is calm

duuh

After the time trial everyone was freaking out because he lost 7 seconds, and I was like, wtf, first day, ITT, 7s lost, what the hell is 7s.

Why ? It was a good result for Tinkoff standards.

 

[damian13ster]

What more do you need? Lost time in TT, lost time on the climb, lost time on the hill. If he loses (or doesn't) gain time on the cobbles, in the mountains and a stage with huge descent (stages 10 and 11), then where is he going to make it up?
That's why I said. It will be done by stage 11

 

[BigMac]

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Bookmark it if you want. You know I am right. You can't be that blinded to believe otherwise

I'm smart enough not to draw conclusions after 3 days of racing when anything can still happen.

Last year's cobbles stage tho.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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You were the one who brought up Froome (deleting quotation from your own post not to show that). I just responded to your post. I understand though, you might be pretty annoyed now and logical thinking is clearly not your strongest suit

Lol I always delete the quotes because it becomes a mess otherwise. Don't spread lies about me.
To the bolded, how nice of you to show the entire forum what kind of person you really are. A pathetic one.

 

[Taxus4a]

Contador is the clever rider of the peloton and who better use his strong team, but he should start to understand that although he is young, at least younger than Purito, he cant follow in this new era to better people as Landa or Froome, that way if he doesnt try to follow stronger people than him, he would lose less time and a meritable podium could be for him if he has luck with crashes and problems...

 

[Jspear]

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Why wouldn't he? If Froome doesn't lose major time tommorow he will be a huge favorite for the win. And looking at how comfortable he was during echelons he should put more time into Contador and Quintana.
By stage 11 the GC will be over unless Nibali does something

Froome will put more time into AC where? You do know Tinkov was vital in helping those echelons start right? Froome was just a passenger. I can't see him being the one proactive in gaining time on flat stages; he has said himself he just wants to survive the first week. Now, of course in the mountains he will be active in taking more time out of his rivals.

So? He saved his strength and gained time to all 3 of his rivals in the flat stage. He will do the same tommorow (except for Nibali). All he has to do is follow Astana/Etixx and Quintana + likely Contador judging by his perfomances so far will be gone.
He doesn't actually have to attack on the cobbles to gain time on them...

Well he has to follow them to not lose time. That's where he'll have trouble imo. I think Nibbes and AC will do better than him. You heard it here first. Sagan will be in yellow tomorrow and AC will be ahead of Froome in the GC.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Contador is the clever rider of the peloton and who better use his strong team, but he should start to understand that although he is young, at least younger than Purito, he cant follow in this new era to better people as Landa or Froome, that way if he dont try to follow stronger people than him, he would lose less time and a meritable podium could be for him if he has luck with crashes and problems...

Taxus please. I beg you. Start a Landa fan forum or something, but stop posting about Landa here. Please.
To the bolded, no. I point you to my signature: "The second place is not good".

 

[Red Rick]

Taxus, can you do me a favour?
Hack into my account and put yourself on ignore

 

[arvc40]

Contador looking ridiculously weak, pretty much 2013 here. I was expecting him to lose time but not that much though.

He'll get better from here on, and the Giro will have a positive impact on him, that's the build up. I'm not worried yet.

Yeah, we're closer to 2013 than 2014, unfortunately...

I'm a little concerned for my £100 9/1 Double bet. Contador not showing the minerals yet !

 

[LaFlorecita]

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When Flor is calm, all that hails Contador is calm

duuh

After the time trial everyone was freaking out because he lost 7 seconds, and I was like, wtf, first day, ITT, 7s lost, what the hell is 7s.

Why ? It was a good result for Tinkoff standards.

That's my point. I had no idea why people were freaking out. 7s is nothing.

 

[damian13ster]

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So? He saved his strength and gained time to all 3 of his rivals in the flat stage. He will do the same tommorow (except for Nibali). All he has to do is follow Astana/Etixx and Quintana + likely Contador judging by his perfomances so far will be gone.
He doesn't actually have to attack on the cobbles to gain time on them...

Well he has to follow them to not lose time. That's where he'll have trouble imo. I think Nibbes and AC will do better than him. You heard it here first. Sagan will be in yellow tomorrow and AC will be ahead of Froome in the GC.

I think if Sagan was allowed to go then he would be in yellow, although I am curious on how Martin will perform. He has the engine, weight, bike handling....
But afraid that Sagan will be asked to babysit Contador so yellow for him is unlikely.
How is Contador going to pass Froome other than mechanical/crash for the latter? Froome has great domestiques for the cobbles and shown to be stronger rider atm.

 

[blackmamba]

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What more do you need? Lost time in TT, lost time on the climb, lost time on the hill. If he loses (or doesn't) gain time on the cobbles, in the mountains and a stage with huge descent (stages 10 and 11), then where is he going to make it up?
That's why I said. It will be done by stage 11

A GT doesnt evolves fram day 3 to week 3? form wice etc? I guess its over then pack it up guys You show again how little understanding you have but its okei noone really cares


Just sigh that some people are this dumb and never learns from history If people have already forgot Contador rode the giro and the first week of the tour was always gonne be his hardest but why explain logic to people who cant even count

 

[Jspear]

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Contador is the clever rider of the peloton and who better use his strong team, but he should start to understand that although he is young, at least younger than Purito, he cant follow in this new era to better people as Landa or Froome, that way if he doesnt try to follow stronger people than him, he would lose less time and a meritable podium could be for him if he has luck with crashes and problems...

He doesn't want to podium. He wants to win.

 

[bajbar]

This was terrible. Contador blew up completely when Purito went, and then everyone passed him like he was standing still. He has to improve massively to just be able to keep up with them, let alone beat them. I am really afraid that my 21 favorite days in the year will once again turn into 21 days of dissapointments. It has been 4 years since AC dominated a GT (Giro 2011). I though this might be the year. I won't say he cannot win, because Froome could easily crash tommorow (even though he looks much more solid than last year) and with Contador you never now, but he won't be smokin them in the mountains winning with a minute gap, sadly. I just don't want another 2013 Tour because that was just sad...

 

[Jspear]

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So? He saved his strength and gained time to all 3 of his rivals in the flat stage. He will do the same tommorow (except for Nibali). All he has to do is follow Astana/Etixx and Quintana + likely Contador judging by his perfomances so far will be gone.
He doesn't actually have to attack on the cobbles to gain time on them...

Well he has to follow them to not lose time. That's where he'll have trouble imo. I think Nibbes and AC will do better than him. You heard it here first. Sagan will be in yellow tomorrow and AC will be ahead of Froome in the GC.

I think if Sagan was allowed to go then he would be in yellow, although I am curious on how Martin will perform. He has the engine, weight, bike handling....
But afraid that Sagan will be asked to babysit Contador so yellow for him is unlikely.
How is Contador going to pass Froome other than mechanical/crash for the latter? Froome has great domestiques for the cobbles and shown to be stronger rider atm.

I just think he'll suck on the cobbles. He doesn't like them and even that mentality will bleed into how he performs, imo. Hey if I'm wrong I'll be the first to admit it. I just think AC is a better bike handler/racer and will be able to take time on him in a stage like tomorrow.