Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[Ludwig's Olaf]

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Rasmus Staghoj reports Alberto was in pain this morning

That's code for he plans to attack and pull back six minutes.

 

[sunnyIce]

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Isn't it amazing, Contador has always either won the GT or finished outside the podium!!!

Valverde is angry at your post!

Why? I don't get it.
Doesn't it mean that Valverde's podium position is safe? He can sleep and wheelsuck in peace.

 

[movingtarget]

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Contador hit a hole in the road last year while he was reaching for his pocket. He was on a straight stretch. **** happens. Had nothing to do descending skills or taking risks.

Seemed to be similar to his crash in the Tour last year except for the injuries of course.

 

[Carols]

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Isn't it amazing, Contador has always either won the GT or finished outside the podium!!!

Valverde is angry at your post!

lol

Berto apparently getting assistance from the race doctor

 

[sunnyIce]

I'm gonna guess that Sagan is going to line it up for AC on the descent from Col De La Morte and go on pass the sprint line and close to the bottom of Glandon, from where Rogers will take over all the way to the top (he will probably wait up for AC to catch up), and near the top Kreuziger will wait to line up for the big descent from Glandon. And then onwards and forwards to the finish, AC has to do it alone!

 

[Angliru]

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It's one thing to take risks and it works out. But too often of late Alberto's descending has let him down or caused him to crash. He may well have won last year's Tour had it not been for a lapse in concentration or whatever it was in the Vosges last year when he crashed at 80km/h. (For the record, Nibali said afterward that Contador was descending dangerously when he crashed). Remember in 2013 Froome said the same thing when AC attacked him coming off the Alpe du'Ez? Again Contador crashed and almost took Froome out. Then just yesterday he loses a couple of minutes after crashing downhill.

I just want to know why people (like Broccolidwarf) say that Contador will take time out of Froome on descents? I just want them to name even ONE descent in a Grand Tour where he has taken a chunk of time out of Froome? Just ONE. I have named 3 recent Tour descents where he has crashed all on his own, at a big cost to himself. Especially last year when he was in such good form.

Yet they come on here saying how Froome is going to lose time to Contador on the descents, lose time on the cobbles, etc. I think it's just a combination of wishful thinking and utter bollocks.

His rivals say he is one of the better descenders among the grand tour contenders and that is good enough for me. If you listened to interviews this is a common refrain.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Is ForzaIvan tshirt available for joe the plumber?

 

[buchanan]

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It's one thing to take risks and it works out. But too often of late Alberto's descending has let him down or caused him to crash. He may well have won last year's Tour had it not been for a lapse in concentration or whatever it was in the Vosges last year when he crashed at 80km/h. (For the record, Nibali said afterward that Contador was descending dangerously when he crashed). Remember in 2013 Froome said the same thing when AC attacked him coming off the Alpe du'Ez? Again Contador crashed and almost took Froome out. Then just yesterday he loses a couple of minutes after crashing downhill.

I just want to know why people (like Broccolidwarf) say that Contador will take time out of Froome on descents? I just want them to name even ONE descent in a Grand Tour where he has taken a chunk of time out of Froome? Just ONE. I have named 3 recent Tour descents where he has crashed all on his own, at a big cost to himself. Especially last year when he was in such good form.

Yet they come on here saying how Froome is going to lose time to Contador on the descents, lose time on the cobbles, etc. I think it's just a combination of wishful thinking and utter bollocks.

His rivals say he is one of the better descenders among the grand tour contenders and that is good enough for me. If you listened to interviews this is a common refrain.

I repeat my appeal here (yet again) for anybody to give an example in a Grand Tour where Contador has taken a chunk of time out of Froome. Nobody can give an example because it hasn't happened. This is the point. But people (like Broccolidwarf) are already talking about how Contador might take time out of Froome on wet descents in next year's Tour! Talk about grasping at straws.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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I repeat my appeal here (yet again) for anybody to give an example in a Grand Tour where Contador has taken a chunk of time out of Froome. Nobody can give an example because it hasn't happened. This is the point. But people (like Broccolidwarf) are already talking about how Contador might take time out of Froome on wet descents in next year's Tour! Talk about grasping at straws.

Before the 2013 Tour Froome had never crushed Contador in a GT yet he did it anyway.

 

[Matteo.]

Very good ride today. I was afraid after the crash but he looks fine.
Tomorrow more

 

[LaFlorecita]

Alberto hero

Tomorrow more!

 

[leon993]

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Alberto hero

Tomorrow more!

Form is going UP and Froome form is going DOWN

 

[LaFlorecita]

"It was an attack when all of our legs hurt. It was more of an attack with the heart."
"If they´d told me that I was going to arrive in the leader group I wouldn't have believed it. 1 of the toughest days ever on the bike."

 

[Jspear]

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Alberto hero

Tomorrow more!

Form is going UP and Froome form is going DOWN

And with just 2 stages to make differences, it doesn't really matter.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Alberto hero

Tomorrow more!

Form is going UP and Froome form is going DOWN

And with just 2 stages to make differences, it doesn't really matter.

Yeah the GC win is gone barring a miracle.

 

[Red Rick]

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"It was an attack when all of our legs hurt. It was more of an attack with the heart."
"If they´d told me that I was going to arrive in the leader group I wouldn't have believed it. 1 of the toughest days ever on the bike."

was this one of those 'I feel bad, might as well attack' attacks?

 

[Squirbos_19]

Podium is still possible and it will still be a great result.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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"It was an attack when all of our legs hurt. It was more of an attack with the heart."
"If they´d told me that I was going to arrive in the leader group I wouldn't have believed it. 1 of the toughest days ever on the bike."

was this one of those 'I feel bad, might as well attack' attacks?

Probably, he hurt his leg quite badly and got anti-inflammatory pills and painkillers during the race.

 

[Carols]

The heart is still strong The heart of a racer, a winner!

 

[Jelantik]

well at least, we see contador is really not going down without a fight. Majka said in his interview that they are still gunning to make the race hard. (and podium?) He, himself, is feeling good. And he said Alberto felt better (but that should be take as a grain of salt ). Moviestar looks like they are clearly happy with 2 and 3. But Valverde was shaky on the HC climb today. Froome didn't seem to look fresh today. Dunno maybe just me. Tomorrow is a really tough stage. I hope Contador finally can get away and stick. Today it almost worked since sky let him go and moviestar didn't chase (maybe because valverde is already on the limit?). Quintana is meh! I truly believe the only person who can challenge Froome is Contador. Unfortunately, we won't see it this TDF.

 

[Miburo]

I'd be so happy if he could win a stage tomorrow or on the alpe.

Many people write Contador off as a rider, they did it too in 2013. I can't wait for 2016, imo he still needs to win a tour to prove to everyone how good he really is. We can only speculate how good he was in the tour of 2014. He'll be 33 which is still easily possible to be at your best. Every body is different of course.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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I'd be so happy if he could win a stage tomorrow or on the alpe.

Me too. It'll be difficult but not impossible. Froome and Quintana are the only ones who are likely stronger uphill and he will be given some leeway by them. I'm crossing my fingers.
Either way, he's shown his heart and courage already. What a fighter. Every time I think it isn't possible for me to admire him more, and then he surprises me yet again

 

[DBotero]

 

[ray j willings]

Bertie was brilliant today ....attacked and attacked. Strongest of the GT main men.
Froome was definitely wobbly....
Now we are seeing were riders are really at level wise.
Bertie would have won this tour if he had not rode the Giro. I also question if riding the Route du Sud was a wise move, maybe he should have rested instead, he may not have lost time in the early part of the tour.
Im happy because there is no way any Froome fan can deny how strong Bertie is and Looking at where they are in week 3 if Froome had rode the Giro he would be out the back door 10 /15 minutes behind.
Bertie will have another go tomorrow ....

Brilliant stuff

Berti will win the tour next year , after watching this 3rd week it's not in doubt ...He's no1

 

[rick james]

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Bertie was brilliant today ....attacked and attacked. Strongest of the GT main men.
Froome was definitely wobbly....
Now we are seeing were riders are really at level wise.
Bertie would have won this tour if he had not rode the Giro. I also question if riding the Route du Sud was a wise move, maybe he should have rested instead, he may not have lost time in the early part of the tour.
Im happy because there is no way any Froome fan can deny how strong Bertie is and Looking at where they are in week 3 if Froome had rode the Giro he would be out the back door 10 /15 minutes behind.
Bertie will have another go tomorrow ....

Brilliant stuff

Berti will win the tour next year , after watching this 3rd week it's not in doubt ...He's no1

Amazing crystal ball you have there