I hope not. He is supposed to be fresh on the third week. Kreuziger on the other hand, worries me. He has been pulling hard in the front especially when Sagan won. I didn't see any sky climber pulling in the last few stages. I'm afraid by the time he should have been there for Alberto, he'll be running out of a gas. He burned his matches too early. Wasn't he supposed to be one of the 3 to help Alberto in the high mountain?Carols said:Has Majka done anything useful in this race, for either Sagan or Alberto?
What else will he say? I feel excellent when i get out of the saddle? This is an opportunity to play mind games with your opponents. Milk it. We (and his opponents) will not know the truth until tomorrow.Pricey_sky said:According to comments after the stage today Alberto said he's still in a lot of pain when he tries to get out of the saddle, doesn't bode well for tomorrow.
I don't like to see a favourites GC hopes end with a crash, it's always very unfortunate.
Yes,we should hope he lies tho...to ride 2k @11% in the saddle is a pain in the assjilbiker said:What else will he say? I feel excellent when i get out of the saddle? This is an opportunity to play mind games with your opponents. Milk it. We (and his opponents) will not know the truth until tomorrow.Pricey_sky said:According to comments after the stage today Alberto said he's still in a lot of pain when he tries to get out of the saddle, doesn't bode well for tomorrow.
I don't like to see a favourites GC hopes end with a crash, it's always very unfortunate.
Of course it could all be mind games, but if that's his strategy I'd have just not said anything at all, leave the others guessing.jilbiker said:What else will he say? I feel excellent when i get out of the saddle? This is an opportunity to play mind games with your opponents. Milk it. We (and his opponents) will not know the truth until tomorrow.Pricey_sky said:According to comments after the stage today Alberto said he's still in a lot of pain when he tries to get out of the saddle, doesn't bode well for tomorrow.
I don't like to see a favourites GC hopes end with a crash, it's always very unfortunate.
Depends on saddle.ILovecycling said:Yes,we should hope he lies tho...to ride 2k @11% in the saddle is a pain in the ***jilbiker said:What else will he say? I feel excellent when i get out of the saddle? This is an opportunity to play mind games with your opponents. Milk it. We (and his opponents) will not know the truth until tomorrow.Pricey_sky said:According to comments after the stage today Alberto said he's still in a lot of pain when he tries to get out of the saddle, doesn't bode well for tomorrow.
I don't like to see a favourites GC hopes end with a crash, it's always very unfortunate.![]()
FFS Olegpeloton said:He was grimacing a lot on the little climb todat at about 7km to go when he got out of saddle.
And besides, unlikely he lost that time on stage 2 just for fun...
Oleg has apparently said he doesn't think he can compete with the best in the mountains, great pep talk again.
Well see tomorrow. Who knows how bad is injury is, remember how much time he was supposed to loose in the Giro ITT because of the sholder injury?Pricey_sky said:Of course it could all be mind games, but if that's his strategy I'd have just not said anything at all, leave the others guessing.jilbiker said:What else will he say? I feel excellent when i get out of the saddle? This is an opportunity to play mind games with your opponents. Milk it. We (and his opponents) will not know the truth until tomorrow.Pricey_sky said:According to comments after the stage today Alberto said he's still in a lot of pain when he tries to get out of the saddle, doesn't bode well for tomorrow.
I don't like to see a favourites GC hopes end with a crash, it's always very unfortunate.
For what it's worth I don't think he is playing mind games, it seems he's telling the truth.
As you said we will see tomorrow.
Maybe he did actually lose all that time compared to his hypothetical performance if he hadn't crashedMayomaniac said:Well see tomorrow. Who knows how bad is injury is, remember how much time he was supposed to loose in the Giro ITT because of the sholder injury?
That's a good point. But I haven't known him to bluff to the point that he would lose time as he did on Sunday.Pantani Attacks said:Contador has known to bluff and often underrate himself in order to deceive. I have good hopes for him tomorrow. He'll most likely lose time tomorrow, but that'll be down to his injuries and nothing more. Everyday he'll get better and better and that will be vital come the last week.
That's not at all what he said.Taxus4a said:"He's had two flat days to recover and I believe he'll be okay for tomorrow. He' a very tough guy and recovers very well. For sure he’ll be there," Sagan concluded.
Acording to Sagan if he loses time tomorrow is becouse his level and no lot influence of his crash.
He lost time already last year in Huy. He is suposed in a better shape noe, so he will do little bit better,znd without the crash maybe a little bit better, but no much difference.
:facepalm:Taxus4a said:"He's had two flat days to recover and I believe he'll be okay for tomorrow. He' a very tough guy and recovers very well. For sure he’ll be there," Sagan concluded.
Acording to Sagan if he loses time tomorrow is becouse his level and no lot influence of his crash.
He lost time already last year in Huy. He is suposed in a better shape noe, so he will do little bit better,znd without the crash maybe a little bit better, but no much difference.
He said he is quite well recovered, so..., the words of cyclingnews previous to that statement were:Publicus said:That's not at all what he said.Taxus4a said:"He's had two flat days to recover and I believe he'll be okay for tomorrow. He' a very tough guy and recovers very well. For sure he’ll be there," Sagan concluded.
Acording to Sagan if he loses time tomorrow is becouse his level and no lot influence of his crash.
He lost time already last year in Huy. He is suposed in a better shape noe, so he will do little bit better,znd without the crash maybe a little bit better, but no much difference.
Everyone but you seems to understand the plain meaning of his words, so I'm not going to bother explaining further. You're entitled to your severely biased and misguided opinions, but don't put words into Sagan's mouth to do so.Taxus4a said:He said he is quite well recovered, so..., the words of cyclingnews previous to that statement were:Publicus said:That's not at all what he said.Taxus4a said:"He's had two flat days to recover and I believe he'll be okay for tomorrow. He' a very tough guy and recovers very well. For sure he’ll be there," Sagan concluded.
Acording to Sagan if he loses time tomorrow is becouse his level and no lot influence of his crash.
He lost time already last year in Huy. He is suposed in a better shape noe, so he will do little bit better,znd without the crash maybe a little bit better, but no much difference.
In theory, Alberto Contador will become the protected team leader at Tinkoff from tomorrow, with Sagan perhaps expected to switch to a support role and focus on the points jersey. Sagan claimed that his teammate has recovered from his two nasty crashes during the weekend.
if he has recovered, he is ok. I understand is not totally recovered like without the crash, he will have problems to be out of the saddle, for that reason I said: not lot influence, and: without the crash maybe a little bit better, but no much difference.
What is what he means then?
He spent 3 years with the master of mind games JohannB and 1 year with the Grandmaster of mind games Lance, I think he is smart enough that he learnt a thing of two. Always keep them guessing, its very unsettling.Matteo. said:That is one thing I still do not understand: why he keep saying to feel bad. Really he wants to be attacked or be dropped? I want to believe that's pre-tactical and that he feels good otherwise he became mad