Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

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As far as I can tell, Contador lost more than a minute to Froome just on the final descent. How does that happen? I can understand losing 30" at the end of the climb because he's not yet fully recovered, but how can he and a group of others let Froome put so much more additional time on them?

 

[Jelantik]

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People will yell at me again but

Come on Alberto, be smart

Period. A win is a win.

Now he is slowly getting teared apart. A champion also knows when to give up.

I would be "SURPRISE" if he quits the Tour. He was fatique last year, and laboring like an wounded animal on the mountain, .. guess what? He was still in the Tour even though we know he wasn't going to win the Tour. So not gonna happen.

Quite different.
Last year he won the Giro and went on to the double. Obviously he wouldn't abandon the Tour to start in the Vuelta. 3 GTs (though not completed) in a year would screw with his physical preparation for this year.

This year's Tour is the first GT for him. Abandoning now isn't really the same.

sure. But I don't think it's going to happen. I will be very "SURPRISE" if that happens. But I do now believe that he is going to line up for Vuelta. That, we can expect.

 

[LaFlorecita]

As far as I can tell, Contador lost more than a minute to Froome just on the final descent. How does that happen? I can understand losing 30" at the end of the climb because he's not yet fully recovered, but how can he and a group of others let Froome put so much more additional time on them?

It was clearly a power descent and the guys that got dropped simply had no power left in their legs.

 

[LaFlorecita]

@tinkoff_team
#TDF2016 @albertocontador finishes the day in 17th position - an incredible performance shows the Spanish rider is recovering well.


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[roundabout]

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Still trying to figure out what I think about his going to Trek. Taking Jesus is just ridiculous IMO he has so little use. I haven't heard any other rider mentioned, just De Jong and maybe Basso. I'm not attached to Specialized or Trek so the bike is irrelevant to me. As long as they give him the support he needs I'm okay with it.

Hopefully Bjarne will have a WT team in 2018, that would be ideal

I do know if Frank gets renewed I will Laugh every time I see him doming for Alberto . But I can't see why Trek would renew him.

I"m with you on this. I think the move the Trek is better than Lampre or Etixx. (I prefer Trek kit and bike). But taking Jesus? He is useless. Contador should bring someone lke Krueziger or Dany Navarro and turns them into his domestique deluxe. Jesus's time is done, he should have just retired. Now his presence is hogging the opportunity to get a better climber. I hope his luck for TDF is changing once he changes team. New feng-shui. Tinkoff is too much drama.

I haven't researched it that much, but it seems that Hernandez doesn't ride that many races with Contador anymore.

And I doubt that Hernandez is getting paid a lot. So in effect, it's only 1 spot on the team that is at stake

 

[Pantani Attacks]

Contador won't beat MAL at the Vuelta tbh.

 

[Sciocco]

Contador's the favorite at the Vuelta...

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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Quintana and Froome's attacks were very weak today. The only rider dropped was Alberto who cant accelerate from that crash. Just like in 2014, I cant help myself but think it was in the bag had he not crashed...

Have to agree with you, although I think Quintana didn't go all out. Froome hasn't looked strong all week.

Oh come on.. You guys aren't serious, right?

Today I had a feeling like this was the end of an era. I don't think we'll see Contador win another GT again

People have been saying this since 2013. It gets old dude.

Clearly the injuries are taking their toll. Tough luck, nothing more.

I haven't. I do hope that he drops out though, as he could very well win the Vuelta then.

 

[buchanan]

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Quintana and Froome's attacks were very weak today. The only rider dropped was Alberto who cant accelerate from that crash. Just like in 2014, I cant help myself but think it was in the bag had he not crashed...

Have to agree with you, although I think Quintana didn't go all out. Froome hasn't looked strong all week.

Oh come on.. You guys aren't serious, right?

Today I had a feeling like this was the end of an era. I don't think we'll see Contador win another GT again

The hilarious thing is they actually are being serious. They really believe their delusions.

 

[Matteo.]

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@tinkoff_team
#TDF2016 @albertocontador finishes the day in 17th position - an incredible performance shows the Spanish rider is recovering well.


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think if he was recovering bad , what would happen :lol:

 

[movingtarget]

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The final nail for Contador. The signs did not look too good beforehand. I take it that Majka is chasing the KOM jersey which he won't win anyway as the stages get harder. I don't think the team is functioning very well at the moment and I guess with the team folding, riders need to think of their futures. This does not make for a well functioning team but it would have made little difference to Contador as he clearly is struggling.

the team is fine. Listened to De jongh interview. Alberto was tired from yesterday and he said if he struggled he told Roman to ride for himself for his contract. Majka was upfront to try to win a stage. Nothing wrong with that. You can't prep anything if your leader aren't going so well. I'm OK with that, because Contador has given Roman a blessing to ride for himself. Nothing more to be upset about.

If the team is fine why is that Contador as the team leader has been seen on his own for most of the week ? Now I suppose it does not matter. I am not upset about it I just think that team has been showing some odd ways of supporting their team leader. It was like they wrote him off after the second crash.

 

[buchanan]

As far as I can tell, Contador lost more than a minute to Froome just on the final descent. How does that happen? I can understand losing 30" at the end of the climb because he's not yet fully recovered, but how can he and a group of others let Froome put so much more additional time on them?

It was clearly a power descent and the guys that got dropped simply had no power left in their legs.

Lol not bad for a guy who 'hasn't looked good all week' in your estimation.
He just powered away from about 15 of the best bike riders in the world downhill into a headwind.

 

[RattaKuningas]

I think that there is no reason for Contador to quit this race. At this point in his career he races because he likes to race and that's it. It's what he enjoys. There is nothing that one more potential Vuelta win might give him in addition to what he has now.
Also he is getting better each day and we have no idea what the race might bring. Anything could happen and it is very likely that he will be even better after 1st restday.

 

[Kokoso]

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Because Kreuziger worked for him for years? Ah, now I see.

Exactly, but you won´t get any understanding from Alberto´s fanboys/girls here, so do not even try.

There are fanboys/girl who never will understand or don't want to understand or at least never admit they understand but there are those who understand.

 

[Melo]

Contador: "For me, it was really tough, grueling. The pace was really fast from the beginning."

"It's time to go to the hotel and see what we're going to do."

"Yesterday the decision was made that Kreuziger would fight for the GC."

"Tomorrow I have to try to get through the day and analyze the situation on the rest day."

"My body needs rest. I felt really well physically before the Tour."

"I'm not considering abandoning the Tour de France."

 

[Pantani Attacks]

How far back is he in the GC?

 

[roundabout]

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I think that there is no reason for Contador to quit this race. At this point in his career he races because he likes to race and that's it. It's what he enjoys. There is nothing that one more potential Vuelta win might give him in addition to what he has now.
Also he is getting better each day and we have no idea what the race might bring. Anything could happen and it is very likely that he will be even better after 1st restday.

He lost 1 minute 40 seconds on a stage where serious attacks started at 3km before the top of the last climb.

What could happen is that he loses much more time tomorrow should attacks happen earlier.

 

[RattaKuningas]

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How far back is he in the GC?

Little bit over 3 minutes.

 

[Kokoso]

He just powered away from about 15 of the best bike riders in the world downhill into a headwind.

It must be said they didn't really try hard to chase him down for quite some time, just looking at each other.

 

[Melo]

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How far back is he in the GC?

+ 03' 12''

 

[RattaKuningas]

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I think that there is no reason for Contador to quit this race. At this point in his career he races because he likes to race and that's it. It's what he enjoys. There is nothing that one more potential Vuelta win might give him in addition to what he has now.
Also he is getting better each day and we have no idea what the race might bring. Anything could happen and it is very likely that he will be even better after 1st restday.

He lost 1 minute 40 seconds on a stage where serious attacks started at 3km before the top of the last climb.

What could happen is that he loses much more time tomorrow should attacks happen earlier.

Pace was fast the entire day.
I don't think that tomorrow he would get dropped before the last climb.

 

[buchanan]

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Because Kreuziger worked for him for years? Ah, now I see.

Exactly, but you won´t get any understanding from Alberto´s fanboys/girls here, so do not even try.

There are fanboys/girl who never will understand or don't want to understand or at least never admit they understand but there are those who understand.

I think I know what you mean. Some Contador fans are at least rational. I like to think I am one of them.
Then you get some of his fanboys and girls here who defy logic. They say the funniest things - like how 'he had this Tour in the bag before his crashes' or 'Froome hasn't looked good all week'

 

[arvc40]

I think Contador should stick at it. He is slowly improving. He did better than I expected today. I would like to see what he can muster up later in the race. Not atall interested in him prepping for Olympics or Tour of Spain.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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I think I know what you mean. Some Contador fans are at least rational. I like to think I am one of them.
Then you get some of his fanboys and girls here who defy logic. They say the funniest things - like how 'he had this Tour in the bag before his crashes' or 'Froome hasn't looked good all week'

You're a fake fan like Ramon Koran. You can't just claim you are a Contador fan when you only ever post negative things about him. I've literally not seen you post one positive post about him in the last few years.

 

[Carols]

I'd like to see him do a recovery ride tomorrow and drop 10 minutes so he can go stage hunting in week three.

But I'm sure he has a different plan .