Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[Hayabusa]

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He can still win stages like this with short medium porcentage climbs are not his thing, nor are descent. He will crush froome and nairo in da ventoux, tt and last week.

No he won't do anything on "da ventoux". He might not even make it...

He's nowhere near the level of a climber as Quintana or Froome in his current state and he won't recover in time. He should either ride for Roman or withdraw and go for the Vuelta.

 

[LaFlorecita]

People will yell at me again but

Come on Alberto, be smart

 

[Jelantik]

Well, at least he didn't crash today, after Kelderman fell in front of him.. :lol: . That should be a good sign. It's a bit depressing, we're not going to see Contador rubbing shoulder properly on every TDF. I don't care whether he wins or not, but not being able to be up there in since 2012.. that's a bit depressing. Ow,well. I guess now I'm curious what he is going to do next. He has never won any TDF stage since 2012, so.. maybe that's not a bad idea.

 

[lenric]

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People will yell at me again but

Come on Alberto, be smart

Period. A win is a win.

Now he is slowly getting teared apart. A champion also knows when to give up.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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He can still win stages like this with short medium porcentage climbs are not his thing, nor are descent. He will crush froome and nairo in da ventoux, tt and last week.

No he won't do anything on "da ventoux". He might not even make it...

He's nowhere near the level of a climber as Quintana or Froome in his current state and he won't recover in time. He should either ride for Roman or withdraw and go for the Vuelta.

Please no. He should never ride for Roman, that's nonsense. They have Majka for that.

Quintana and Froome's attacks were very weak today. The only rider dropped was Alberto who cant accelerate from that crash. Just like in 2014, I cant help myself but think it was in the bag had he not crashed...

Have to agree with you, although I think Quintana didn't go all out. Froome hasn't looked strong all week.

 

[Hayabusa]

When has Majka ever ridden for someone though?

 

[buchanan]

Lol I'm laughing my head off at some of these comments like:

from Ramon Karon: "He will crush froome and nairo in da ventoux, tt and last week." ; and

from: LeSensei: "Just like in 2014, I cant help myself but think it was in the bag had he not crashed..."

You guys have hilarious imaginations or live in a dreamworld. :lol: :lol:

 

[Jelantik]

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Im glad people at Tinkoff said everything was talked and sorted out because today, once again, Alberto is alone with Kreuziger riding for himself and that polish man not giving a f***

You have to miss Rogers and Basso. They were far from their best level Last year but they were loyal and more importantly they cared for AC. With these 2 guys on the team nobody would dare not to do what he was told. Id take giro 2015 team over this one anyday.

I don't think that's the case. In the interview with Majka, he said they got two leader today. And today is a good call. Let Kreuziger sits as high as possible. (I don't think he can even break top 5 but whatever). Alberto isn't getting better, so why dragged his team mate who clearly rides well.

EDIT:
De jongh said in interview.. contador was tired from yesterday and he told Roman to ride for himself. That's classy.

 

[TheYouyou7]

Its very true Froome's attack was very weak + he attacks in a descent while he used to say that attacking in descents are for weak riders.
For Quintana i dont know, idont think he gave it all when he attacked.

 

[Jelantik]

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People will yell at me again but

Come on Alberto, be smart

Period. A win is a win.

Now he is slowly getting teared apart. A champion also knows when to give up.

I would be "SURPRISE" if he quits the Tour. He was fatique last year, and laboring like an wounded animal on the mountain, .. guess what? He was still in the Tour even though we know he wasn't going to win the Tour. So not gonna happen.

 

[buchanan]

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He can still win stages like this with short medium porcentage climbs are not his thing, nor are descent. He will crush froome and nairo in da ventoux, tt and last week.

No he won't do anything on "da ventoux". He might not even make it...

He's nowhere near the level of a climber as Quintana or Froome in his current state and he won't recover in time. He should either ride for Roman or withdraw and go for the Vuelta.

Please no. He should never ride for Roman, that's nonsense. They have Majka for that.

Quintana and Froome's attacks were very weak today. The only rider dropped was Alberto who cant accelerate from that crash. Just like in 2014, I cant help myself but think it was in the bag had he not crashed...

Have to agree with you, although I think Quintana didn't go all out. Froome hasn't looked strong all week.

Another amazing comment - this time from Flo:
'Froome hasn't looked strong all week.'

Nevermind he just killed everyone by attacking them downhill into a headwind...Amazing comment.

Lol I agree with you Flo and he's also a worse descender than Contador, Quintana, etc. :lol:

:lol:

 

[movingtarget]

The final nail for Contador. The signs did not look too good beforehand. I take it that Majka is chasing the KOM jersey which he won't win anyway as the stages get harder. I don't think the team is functioning very well at the moment and I guess with the team folding, riders need to think of their futures. This does not make for a well functioning team but it would have made little difference to Contador as he clearly is struggling.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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When has Majka ever ridden for someone though?

I know, but Roman didn't want to ride for Alberto, why should Alberto ride for Roman? he can always just say that he doesn't believe Roman will finish higher on GC

 

[Guybrush]

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When has Majka ever ridden for someone though?

2012 Vuelta, he was an amazing domestique

 

[Jelantik]

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The final nail for Contador. The signs did not look too good beforehand. I take it that Majka is chasing the KOM jersey which he won't win anyway as the stages get harder. I don't think the team is functioning very well at the moment and I guess with the team folding, riders need to think of their futures. This does not make for a well functioning team but it would have made little difference to Contador as he clearly is struggling.

the team is fine. Listened to De jongh interview. Alberto was tired from yesterday and he said if he struggled he told Roman to ride for himself for his contract. Majka was upfront to try to win a stage. Nothing wrong with that. You can't prep anything if your leader aren't going so well. I'm OK with that, because Contador has given Roman a blessing to ride for himself. Nothing more to be upset about.

 

[Kokoso]

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He can still win stages like this with short medium porcentage climbs are not his thing, nor are descent. He will crush froome and nairo in da ventoux, tt and last week.

No he won't do anything on "da ventoux". He might not even make it...

He's nowhere near the level of a climber as Quintana or Froome in his current state and he won't recover in time. He should either ride for Roman or withdraw and go for the Vuelta.

Please no. He should never ride for Roman, that's nonsense. They have Majka for that.

@LaFlo: Why should he not ride once for Kreuziger? Because Kreuziger worked for him for years? Ah, now I see.

 

[Kokoso]

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When has Majka ever ridden for someone though?

I know, but Roman didn't want to ride for Alberto, why should Alberto ride for Roman? he can always just say that he doesn't believe Roman will finish higher on GC

Kreutiger has ridden for Contador like dozens of times. When has Contador ridden last time for Kreutiger?

Edit: obviuosly you forget his radio didn't work. How did he not want to ride for Alberto?

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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Quintana and Froome's attacks were very weak today. The only rider dropped was Alberto who cant accelerate from that crash. Just like in 2014, I cant help myself but think it was in the bag had he not crashed...

Have to agree with you, although I think Quintana didn't go all out. Froome hasn't looked strong all week.

Oh come on.. You guys aren't serious, right?

Today I had a feeling like this was the end of an era. I don't think we'll see Contador win another GT again

 

[TuCzech]

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Because Kreuziger worked for him for years? Ah, now I see.

Exactly, but you won´t get any understanding from Alberto´s fanboys/girls here, so do not even try.

 

[RattaKuningas]

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Its very true Froome's attack was very weak + he attacks in a descent while he used to say that attacking in descents are for weak riders.
For Quintana i dont know, idont think he gave it all when he attacked.

Obivously Quintana didn't gave it all. His attack lasted like 50 meters maxium.

 

[RattaKuningas]

Eventhough Contador got dropped today he still has improved because we had 4 very difficult climbs today and only on the last 1 when serious attacks were made he lost contact. Nothing tragical.

 

[lenric]

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People will yell at me again but

Come on Alberto, be smart

Period. A win is a win.

Now he is slowly getting teared apart. A champion also knows when to give up.

I would be "SURPRISE" if he quits the Tour. He was fatique last year, and laboring like an wounded animal on the mountain, .. guess what? He was still in the Tour even though we know he wasn't going to win the Tour. So not gonna happen.

Quite different.
Last year he won the Giro and went on to the double. Obviously he wouldn't abandon the Tour to start in the Vuelta. 3 GTs (though not completed) in a year would screw with his physical preparation for this year.

This year's Tour is the first GT for him. Abandoning now isn't really the same.

 

[BigMac]

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Quintana and Froome's attacks were very weak today. The only rider dropped was Alberto who cant accelerate from that crash. Just like in 2014, I cant help myself but think it was in the bag had he not crashed...

Have to agree with you, although I think Quintana didn't go all out. Froome hasn't looked strong all week.

Oh come on.. You guys aren't serious, right?

Today I had a feeling like this was the end of an era. I don't think we'll see Contador win another GT again

People have been saying this since 2013. It gets old dude.

Clearly the injuries are taking their toll. Tough luck, nothing more.

 

[Jelantik]

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Still trying to figure out what I think about his going to Trek. Taking Jesus is just ridiculous IMO he has so little use. I haven't heard any other rider mentioned, just De Jong and maybe Basso. I'm not attached to Specialized or Trek so the bike is irrelevant to me. As long as they give him the support he needs I'm okay with it.

Hopefully Bjarne will have a WT team in 2018, that would be ideal

I do know if Frank gets renewed I will Laugh every time I see him doming for Alberto . But I can't see why Trek would renew him.

I"m with you on this. I think the move the Trek is better than Lampre or Etixx. (I prefer Trek kit and bike). But taking Jesus? He is useless. Contador should bring someone lke Krueziger or Dany Navarro and turns them into his domestique deluxe. Jesus's time is done, he should have just retired. Now his presence is hogging the opportunity to get a better climber. I hope his luck for TDF is changing once he changes team. New feng-shui. Tinkoff is too much drama.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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People have been saying this since 2013. It gets old dude.

Clearly the injuries are taking their toll. Tough luck, nothing more.

Exactly. He could even win a GT this year if he drops out. *wink wink nudge nudge*