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Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

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Valv.Piti

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Miburo said:
You misunderstand me, when contador is dropped he'll lose a lot.

Contador isn't like froome, when he drops, he's done for, he'll lose way more than any other rider that drops. Always, it's unlike any other rider but that's the way Contador rolls.

Today was a miracle
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An August miracle. I bet he could have hold on to Froome for longer, but am certain it really was a point of emphasis going into today not blowing completely up Contador-special style.

This is how he should race when he isn't at 100% or what he used to be. He is one of the best if not the best at pacing himself in hilly/mountain time trials so why shouldn't he be able to it in a RR?
 
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Hello.

Yesterday i was sad, today when i saw his leg in the morning i had a good feeling, a good vibe.

I went to a party so i didn´t follow all the stage, but i was following by cyclingnews live, and when it come to the last km´s i went to a room to watch.

I saw is position in the begining of the mountain and i stayed a lot better... If he was like that, he wouldn´t loose much, and it goes more or less well... At least better thn what i expected yesterday.

I´m glad he was ok, now he as to recover and let´s see... Be calm and confident, just that...

Froome isn´t so strong as it´s normal, and without the train the music is diferent... Quintana looks very well, let´s see if he hang on until the end... There is still much race, tomorrow is another day, the dream remains live :razz:

i want to believe...
 
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I've got to give a shout out to Jesus. First time in ages he hasn't looked like garbage, and is really riding his heart out. You can tell that this group truly loves riding for Contador and are willing to sacrifice their health for him. Bennati and Hernandez, Paulhino, and Gogl have ridden themselves into the ground for Alberto. Jesus might not be such a bad grimpeur for the TdF next year... As long as there isn't a TTT.
 
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Re:

Miburo said:
You misunderstand me, when contador is dropped he'll lose a lot.

Contador isn't like froome, when he drops, he's done for, he'll lose way more than any other rider that drops. Always, it's unlike any other rider but that's the way Contador rolls.

Today was a miracle
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Yes it was :)

There are not an additional twenty pages on this thread ;)

But there ought to be :D
 
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Chapeau to Contador.
Though I'm well aware that he's an unfortunate fan of tarmac, I hope he forgets his second love (after her wife, quite possibly his dog also) for 2 weeks and keeps his ass on his bike to get his 4th Vuelta. Tough it will be, 'cause Masters Quintana and Froome a pain in the ass are going to be.
 
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perico said:
I've got to give a shout out to Jesus. First time in ages he hasn't looked like garbage, and is really riding his heart out. You can tell that this group truly loves riding for Contador and are willing to sacrifice their health for him. Bennati and Hernandez, Paulhino, and Gogl have ridden themselves into the ground for Alberto. Jesus might not be such a bad grimpeur for the TdF next year... As long as there isn't a TTT.
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Maybe that's why they left Kreuziger out to go to some GP something with Sagan. Good group helps Contador mentally.
 
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We've seen many battles of Contador.

Now it's Contador and Froome vs Movistar. Will be awesome, a long range attack of both of them is a wet dream (atm froome doesn't need that though)
 
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Red Rick said:
Do you mean long range in general terms or in Vuelta terms?
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I don't think Contador can take back the time he's already lost by simply Puritoing it up the muritos (unless he does a spectacular ITT), so I wager he will probably need to pull some long-range cycling (in general terms). Froome might not need to.
 
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Yesterday morning everyone was close to admit that Contador was pretty much out of the race.
Someone can be a bit optimistic now about Contador's chances.
But before raising his ambitions, Contador needs to survive today as well.

La Vuelta is long this year, there are so many MTF all over the next days, so the race won't be won today or tomorrow.
Even two or three minutes differences can be eliminated in the last days.

As far as the riders are concerned, my humble view:
-Contador can only get better, starting from the day after the rest day. Until then, today and tomorrow, he might just be there following wheels.
-Quintana seems at the best shape amongst the favs, but I have my doubts he can last until the end. I reckon the last week will be tough for him.
-Froome seemed to underperform yesterday, but don't write him off. Covadonga will be the first place to show the first signs of his real form.
-Chaves is a big questionmark atm...
-Valverde is already doing a miracle. :lol:

Aubisque will clear things up a bit, but it will only be the beginning of the real race. From then on will we see real time differences and the rider to improve his form at that point will be the favorite to win.
 
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Re: Re:

hrotha said:
Red Rick said:
Do you mean long range in general terms or in Vuelta terms?
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I don't think Contador can take back the time he's already lost by simply Puritoing it up the muritos (unless he does a spectacular ITT), so I wager he will probably need to pull some long-range cycling (in general terms). Froome might not need to.
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As of now, he is 99'' behind. I don't think it's a stretch to think the same will be the case (more or less) at the rest day. After that there are four main places where he can take time: Peña Cabarga, Aubisque, Mas de la Costa and the ITT. If Quintana has a level similar to last year, and Contador improves close to '14 Vuelta shape (probably not), I think those four stages are enough. If Quintana has a bad day like in Andorra, I think it's likely that Contador will win.

I'm not sure what you expect of the ITT. Surely, Contador will take at least 30'' over 37km, no? Up to a minute should be doable.
 
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Re: Re:

hrotha said:
Red Rick said:
Do you mean long range in general terms or in Vuelta terms?
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I don't think Contador can take back the time he's already lost by simply Puritoing it up the muritos (unless he does a spectacular ITT), so I wager he will probably need to pull some long-range cycling (in general terms). Froome might not need to.
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Not 100% sure. If he takes, say, 30s in the TT, he only needs 1 more minute plus bonus seconds. That's for example half a minute on Aubisque and half a minute on Aitana. Of course, he must not lose more time and if Quintana stays strong, he will have to do some long-range action.
 
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I think it's to Contador's advantage the ITT is flat and not hilly. Never thought i would say that :p

He can pull out a beast ITT like he did it in the giro last year which was mostly flat
 
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But long range is relative, is going 10 km from the aubisque long range? Not really but he can take a minute if he's in great shape, we'll see.

For now quintana is better so it's ridiculous thinking that, but contador didn't finish the tour and he crashed the day before so next week many things can change
 
Red Rick

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It depends so much on how Contador recovers and improves through the race and if Quintana can hold his form. I don't think Quintana will get better. He did last year, but then he had had health issues halfway through the Vuelta. Also, last year Quintana had his best result on a MTF on a one climb stage.

For Contador i'd look at the last year's Giro. Went in a little undercooked, bad crash about one stage earlier, slowly recovered from that and was very good in the tt and on the Mortirolo. I'm not sure about yesterday, but I think he paced himself badly, even though he could've done worse.

Right now I have a hard time thinking the climbing level is very high. Contador's time was rather poor still and I think he should have room to improve. Quintana matched Froome's time of 2014, but it's not much better than what worse riders achieved on a harder stage that day.

All in all I think that if they're even on the Ausbique, Quintana will likely take it, unless he fades badly. The TT can be anything from about even to more than a minute for Contador
 
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