Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[Jancouver]

Re: Re:

If it's true then he should try and do one peak for Giro next year. Train through spring races like Nibali. One last glorious effort.

With all the respect to Contador and all his fans, talking about Bert and another GT podium is as pathetic as talking about TLMRP and the Tour podium.

Neither of those will ever happen.

JMHO

 

[bob.a.feet]

Re: Re:

If it's true then he should try and do one peak for Giro next year. Train through spring races like Nibali. One last glorious effort.

With all the respect to Contador and all his fans, talking about Bert and another GT podium is as pathetic as talking about TLMRP and the Tour podium.

Neither of those will ever happen.

JMHO

Don't really think talking about either of those is pathetic.

JMHO

 

[movingtarget]

Contador will attack tomorrow as he seems to like the short stages but whether he ends up losing more time or not, it's possible but I think he will try anyway. Froome won't want a chaotic stage but that's what he will probably get. Aru and Bardet won't get a better time to test Froome out.

 

[masking_agent]

I've been a huge Contador fan for years, but now we know that he has become an "also ran" and is not a factor in GT's anymore. Maybe the odd stage win but that's it. I hope he lights up the Vuelta and goes out with a bang!

 

[Amazinmets87]

Surely Contador wasn't giving 100% effort on the final climb today? He's acknowledged that the GC is not a possibility, so I'm assuming he's saving the legs to shoot for stage wins

 

[Leinster]

Re:

Surely Contador wasn't giving 100% effort on the final climb today? He's acknowledged that the GC is not a possibility, so I'm assuming he's saving the legs to shoot for stage wins

If he was saving himself, I think he would have sat up long before the summit of The Peyresourde. But yeah, there's no way he was worried about the clock at the finish, he was just rolling in, as much as you can "just roll" up a 20% gradient.

 

[Jspear]

Re: Re:

If it's true then he should try and do one peak for Giro next year. Train through spring races like Nibali. One last glorious effort.

With all the respect to Contador and all his fans, talking about Bert and another GT podium is as pathetic as talking about TLMRP and the Tour podium.

Neither of those will ever happen.

JMHO

I guess it's real convenient for you that Porte crashed out.

I agree with you on AC. There's too many riders stronger than him now.

 

[moonstation2000]

I feel that when his teammate got busted it was a warning shot across his bow, so to speak...

He was just fine in the spring, after all.

I'm not trying to drag this thread into the clinic, but there's probably a certain amount of "preparation" needed to be competitive in a GT, and with the heat on Team Sky this year maybe a warning shot was needed to keep Froomes most dangerous competitor off his top condition.

Maybe, just a theory...

 

[Jancouver]

Re: Re:

If it's true then he should try and do one peak for Giro next year. Train through spring races like Nibali. One last glorious effort.

With all the respect to Contador and all his fans, talking about Bert and another GT podium is as pathetic as talking about TLMRP and the Tour podium.

Neither of those will ever happen.

JMHO

I guess it's real convenient for you that Porte crashed out.

I agree with you on AC. There's too many riders stronger than him now.

You know, and we all know, that my opinion on Porte (and TdU) has not changed for years and I had to take a lot of heat from his fans over the years.

Same for Contador, I don't post here often, but when I posted my opinion before the Tour, right after his "bro" got busted, my comment was (understandably) not received positively by his blindfolded fans.

Unlike Porte, Bert used to be a real champ, but those days are gone. Porte is a one trick ponny and will never achieve anything even close to Contador's palmares, sorry ...

 

[Jspear]

Re:

Surely Contador wasn't giving 100% effort on the final climb today? He's acknowledged that the GC is not a possibility, so I'm assuming he's saving the legs to shoot for stage wins

Oh he was trying all right. I thought it was only after today that he acknowledged GC was no longer a possibility?....

 

[Jspear]

Re: Re:

If it's true then he should try and do one peak for Giro next year. Train through spring races like Nibali. One last glorious effort.

With all the respect to Contador and all his fans, talking about Bert and another GT podium is as pathetic as talking about TLMRP and the Tour podium.

Neither of those will ever happen.

JMHO

I guess it's real convenient for you that Porte crashed out.

I agree with you on AC. There's too many riders stronger than him now.

You know, and we all know, that my opinion on Porte (and TdU) has not changed for years and I had to take a lot of heat from his fans over the years.

Same for Contador, I don't post here often, but when I posted my opinion before the Tour, right after his "bro" got busted, my comment was (understandably) not received positively by his blindfolded fans.

Unlike Porte, Bert used to be a real champ, but those days are gone. Porte is a one trick ponny and will never achieve anything even close to Contador's palmares, sorry ...

Oh I know he won't be anything close to AC. I think he has one GT win in him.

I agree with you now about AC...maybe I thought he had something to give before the Tour, but now it's beyond obvious to all his diehard fans.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Re: Re:

Surely Contador wasn't giving 100% effort on the final climb today? He's acknowledged that the GC is not a possibility, so I'm assuming he's saving the legs to shoot for stage wins

If he was saving himself, I think he would have sat up long before the summit of The Peyresourde. But yeah, there's no way he was worried about the clock at the finish, he was just rolling in, as much as you can "just roll" up a 20% gradient.

I think he was totally cooked at the end of stage 12. No way his pride allows him to allow Quintana to catch up all of that time, and then ride away from him, if his legs have a say in it.

There was something fascinating and admirable about the way that he cracked though. It really was all heart.

His climbing 'form' was a little better though, so on the super short stage tonight, hopefully he can do something.

 

[movingtarget]

Re: Re:

Surely Contador wasn't giving 100% effort on the final climb today? He's acknowledged that the GC is not a possibility, so I'm assuming he's saving the legs to shoot for stage wins

If he was saving himself, I think he would have sat up long before the summit of The Peyresourde. But yeah, there's no way he was worried about the clock at the finish, he was just rolling in, as much as you can "just roll" up a 20% gradient.

I think he was totally cooked at the end of stage 12. No way his pride allows him to allow Quintana to catch up all of that time, and then ride away from him, if his legs have a say in it.

There was something fascinating and admirable about the way that he cracked though. It really was all heart.

His climbing 'form' was a little better though, so on the super short stage tonight, hopefully he can do something.

Yeah he wasn't conserving yesterday, he tried very hard to hang on.

 

[Jelantik]

Re:

I can't understand him... he was looking great with 8 km to the finish line... he wasn't even grimacing!!

Why can't you understand? He was riding in pain due to his crash. There's no way he would be feeling great all day. He obviously rode his heart out to try to survive as much as he could. I was surprised to see him hanging on for that long. I thought he would have gone before Quintana's gone. I feel for him. His face was black from exhaustion and riding in pain. But he shows his fighting spirit.

 

[rata de sentina]

Re:

he's crashed a few times and getting old, what is hard for folk to understand about that?

I often wonder if people commenting on these threads have actually ever fallen off and had to ride the next day. It seems like unless there are broken bones involved crashes are discounted. Even one crash can knock you about for a couple of days. AC has had at least 4.

 

[wheresmybrakes]

If he goes on one of his kamikaze attacks today, the GC lot will just let him go knowing he won't last the stage without being caught (even though it's only 100k). The only way he won't get away is if another GC rival tries to go with him.

 

[Red Rick]

If he goes on one of his kamikaze attacks today, the GC lot will just let him go knowing he won't last the stage without being caught (even though it's only 100k). The only way he won't get away is if another GC rival tries to go with him.

That why I hope Quintana tags along. Together they should be a pretty decent incentive to follow a move.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Re:

Lovely post, gregrowlerson.

+1

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

There was something fascinating and admirable about the way that he cracked though. It really was all heart.

Couldn't agree more

 

[portugal11]

Re: Re:

I can't understand him... he was looking great with 8 km to the finish line... he wasn't even grimacing!!

Why can't you understand? He was riding in pain due to his crash. There's no way he would be feeling great all day. He obviously rode his heart out to try to survive as much as he could. I was surprised to see him hanging on for that long. I thought he would have gone before Quintana's gone. I feel for him. His face was black from exhaustion and riding in pain. But he shows his fighting spirit.

I can't understand why he wasn't grimacing

 

[perico]

Re: Re:

I can't understand him... he was looking great with 8 km to the finish line... he wasn't even grimacing!!

Why can't you understand? He was riding in pain due to his crash. There's no way he would be feeling great all day. He obviously rode his heart out to try to survive as much as he could. I was surprised to see him hanging on for that long. I thought he would have gone before Quintana's gone. I feel for him. His face was black from exhaustion and riding in pain. But he shows his fighting spirit.

I can't understand why he wasn't grimacing

Because he wasn't on the limit in that sense. Healthy he would've been fine, but you use more energy hauling a bruised and sore body over tall mountains. He slowly just ran out of gas until he had nothing left- as opposed to the blow up grimace.the face

 

[Pennino]

WHAT. A. MAN.

 

[Carols]

Lion Heart!

 

[gregrowlerson]

<3

 

[lenric]

Kudos to Contador. Just don't *** fall again, please.