Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[Cance > TheRest]

Hmm. Maybe he just realized he didn't have enough to win anyway, so dropped off. Weird place to drop, 300 meters from the summit.

 

[Carols]

Geez he totally blew himself up

 

[LaFlorecita]

Lion's heart

 

[DFA123]

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Geez he totally blew himself up

The way he spectacularly cracks is almost unique amongst top GC riders. He must just ignore his power meter and dig ridiculously deep into the red to try to follow wheels.

 

[LaFlorecita]

He looked better than on Sunday, despite all his crashes. That final steep finish was just too much for his battered and bruised body! Hope he can keep improving.

 

[Carols]

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Lion's heart

Indeed! Certainly Not mentally broken, but the body can't do what the will asks of it.

Soon the trolls will be along to gloat......

 

[Forever The Best]

[quote="Carols":jhx0vppl]Geez he totally blew himself up

The way he spectacularly cracks is almost unique amongst top GC riders. He must just ignore his power meter and dig ridiculously deep into the red to try to follow wheels.[/quote]
At least he attacked unlike the others. Props to him.

 

[DFA123]

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[quote="Carols":19os3his]Geez he totally blew himself up

The way he spectacularly cracks is almost unique amongst top GC riders. He must just ignore his power meter and dig ridiculously deep into the red to try to follow wheels.

At least he attacked unlike the others. Props to him.[/quote]
Not sure that's anything to shout about; it was a terrible time to attack from a tactical viewpoint. Aru and Bardet didn't attack until the last 250m; one of them is now in yellow and the other won a stage. While Contador just ended up blowing up.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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[quote="Carols":2mq719mi]Geez he totally blew himself up

The way he spectacularly cracks is almost unique amongst top GC riders. He must just ignore his power meter and dig ridiculously deep into the red to try to follow wheels.

At least he attacked unlike the others. Props to him.

Not sure that's anything to shout about; it was a terrible time to attack from a tactical viewpoint. Aru and Bardet didn't attack until the last 250m; one of them is now in yellow and the other won a stage. While Contador just ended up blowing up.[/quote]
But if they'd attacked earlier they could have won much more time. Perhaps after the race we'll look back on this stage as the only time Froome was vulnerable and the others let him get away with it. And let's be honest, Bardet and Aru's result wasn't this good because they attacked in the final 250m, but because they had great legs. The same isn't true for Contador, he'd have been blown away in those final meters. So "tactically" it probably didn't matter at all.

 

[DFA123]

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[quote="Carols":1nzfje1a]Geez he totally blew himself up

The way he spectacularly cracks is almost unique amongst top GC riders. He must just ignore his power meter and dig ridiculously deep into the red to try to follow wheels.

At least he attacked unlike the others. Props to him.

Not sure that's anything to shout about; it was a terrible time to attack from a tactical viewpoint. Aru and Bardet didn't attack until the last 250m; one of them is now in yellow and the other won a stage. While Contador just ended up blowing up.

But if they'd attacked earlier they could have won much more time. Perhaps after the race we'll look back on this stage as the only time Froome was vulnerable and the others let him get away with it.[/quote]
Maybe, or perhaps they would have blown up like Contador. I think you take a 25-30 second advantage on a day that was 99% controlled by the Sky train.

 

[46&twoWheels]

Is Contador the best ever Lion's heart?

(come on, we have to talk about something )

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Maybe, or perhaps they would have blown up like Contador. I think you take a 25-30 second advantage on a day that was 99% controlled by the Sky train.

And that's exactly what's wrong with cycling right now. Thank god Alberto is different.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Is Contador the best ever Lion's heart?

(come on, we have to talk about something )

He is the biggest fighter I've seen in cycling. Even our commies praised him several times for his fighting spirit

 

[Red Rick]

Seemingly marginal improvement.

Fact that he's the only one attacking early is incredibly telling.

 

[No_Balls]

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Is Contador the best ever Lion's heart?

(come on, we have to talk about something )

Yes!!

Today we saw the importance of attacking and having the Contador mindset. When you are attacking you are asking questions of the others form. No attacking and you will have a lot of regrets like some of the others will have (let alone so if Froome goes on to win).

To put it simple: none of the others are worthy his cloak. Thats the tragedy as it is now.

 

[DFA123]

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Maybe, or perhaps they would have blown up like Contador. I think you take a 25-30 second advantage on a day that was 99% controlled by the Sky train.

And that's exactly what's wrong with cycling right now. Thank god Alberto is different.

It is certainly wrong with cycling. But I think the problem is mostly the strength of the Sky train, not the fact that the other challengers arent going on suicide-type attacks.

 

[arvc40]

Contador dig deep today, good for him. His acceleration was pretty useless and certainly nobody else interested in following or counter. Maybe ? That would have been a good move today but Sky still strong at that point and climb soft compared to that last wall to the line. He shows fight but so he should, that's his job. Many other riders have to fight like that, like him they don't win much either.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Maybe, or perhaps they would have blown up like Contador. I think you take a 25-30 second advantage on a day that was 99% controlled by the Sky train.

And that's exactly what's wrong with cycling right now. Thank god Alberto is different.

It is certainly wrong with cycling. But I think the problem is mostly the strength of the Sky train, not the fact that the other challengers arent going on suicide-type attacks.

And we've seen many times that this train can only be derailed by attacking

 

[Red Rick]

If Contador had done this on a good day, Froome would've been on the ropes early one, and the stage wouldve been crazy. Unfortunately, it was a yolo move and he was brought back by the Kwiatkowski.

No shame in that though. Kwiatkowski is an animal.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Seemingly marginal improvement.

Fact that he's the only one attacking early is incredibly telling.

I expected worse after all those crashes and he spent so many kilometers hanging at the back. He could follow the pace for a long time but unfortunately had to drop just before the top. His loss would have been quite a bit less if he had been able to stay with them till the summit, but either way he was just empty on the final ramp. Interestingly though, I didn't see any grimacing. He just didn't look comfortable at all on the bike.
So I take that as a victory! I have good hopes he can be up there again in the Alps and fight for a stage

 

[DFA123]

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Maybe, or perhaps they would have blown up like Contador. I think you take a 25-30 second advantage on a day that was 99% controlled by the Sky train.

And that's exactly what's wrong with cycling right now. Thank god Alberto is different.

It is certainly wrong with cycling. But I think the problem is mostly the strength of the Sky train, not the fact that the other challengers arent going on suicide-type attacks.

And we've seen many times that this train can only be derailed by attacking

Sure, but you don't attack when there is still a longish 6-7% average climb left to come. Aru had the right idea I think on PdBF and again today. Attack when the gradients are steep and so drafting is of little help.

I can't help but feel Contador was playing up to his reputation a bit. Surely he didn't think he could really do anything with that attack today.

 

[arvc40]

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If Contador had done this on a good day, Froome would've been on the ropes early one, and the stage wouldve been crazy. Unfortunately, it was a yolo move and he was brought back by the Kwiatkowski.

No shame in that though. Kwiatkowski is an animal.

Kwiat probably didn't even realise he had attacked.

 

[gregrowlerson]

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Is Contador the best ever Lion's heart?

(come on, we have to talk about something )

He is the biggest fighter I've seen in cycling. Even our commies praised him several times for his fighting spirit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brothers_Lionheart

One brother is the Contador with sensations. The other brother is the Contador without them.

But no matter what, all Contador's have a huge heart.

Tengil is Sky, and Katla is Froome

 

[arvc40]

If his sensations where telling him to attack then he is out of touch with them. Looked like a broke *** dog. I did however have my fingers crossed for him as always.

 

[arvc40]

TBH the best time to attack today was in the last 200 metres. Not much good if you can't keep pace k's out