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Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

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El Pistolero said:
January results shouldn't be taken seriously, especially for GC contenders like Contador. Maybe for a classics rider yeah... For example, Contador getting dropped on a mountain stage in January by some unknown cyclist really means nothing. If anything you should be glad he's taking a slow start of the season if he really wants to compete in 2 GTs this year.

That's it really. There's nothing more to it. He's said, in the quotes in today's Gazzetta, that he's started a little behind than in the past, but that he feels better each day and in two months you will see the results.

I see him going for Liege and then, perhaps, the Giro and Tour, for which, he's wise to have less gas in the tank right now. Already at Tirreno, though, we will see a different Alberto.
 
rhubroma said:
That's it really. There's nothing more to it. He's said, in the quotes in today's Gazzetta, that he's started a little behind than in the past, but that he feels better each day and in two months you will see the results.

I see him going for Liege and then, perhaps, the Giro and Tour, for which, he's wise at 31 to have less gas in the tank right now.

31?!?! No no he's not that old ;)
 
LaFlorecita said:
Wait what :confused: he's already peaked but he's still on the other side so good side of his prime... what..
What I mean is the immediate area under the peak of the curve limited by a dashed line, which represents his prime time. Something like the image below.
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rhubroma said:
In fact, I already corrected myself.

Okay

rhubroma said:
That's it really. There's nothing more to it. He's said, in the quotes in today's Gazzetta, that he's started a little behind than in the past, but that he feels better each day and in two months you will see the results.

Two months :eek:

I see him going for Liege and then, perhaps, the Giro and Tour, for which, he's wise to have less gas in the tank right now. Already at Tirreno, though, we will see a different Alberto.

Alberto already said he won't ride any of the classics if he decides to do giro-tour.

To be honest, I think he won't ride the classics even if he chooses not to ride il giro
 

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rhubroma said:
Well, you just keep rooting for Wiggo then. He certainly has a big engine, though I don't know if he's quite all that you say he is above. Certainly this season will offer some epic battles between he and Contador (as well as a number of other killers), which will make for spectacular racing if nothing else, and may the best man win as they say.

No, I just rank impressions. The last impression always has a bigger priority in any estimations and predictions. Probably you will agree with this in general. The Wiggins' Tour impressed me more than Contador's Vuelta.
 
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airstream said:
No, I just rank impressions. The last impression always has a bigger priority in any estimations and predictions. Probably you will agree with this in general. The Wiggins' Tour impressed me more than Contador's Vuelta.

So based on that Evans shouldn't even try and ride the tour, just like AS :eek:
 

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Miburo said:
So based on that Evans shouldn't even try and ride the tour, just like AS :eek:

No, we are talking about possible Contador's Giro participation.

Evans has objective podium ambitions in the Tour in your opinion?
 
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airstream said:
No, we are talking about possible Contador's Giro participation.

Evans has objective podium ambitions in the Tour in your opinion?

Yeah, well I want to see how he does in TA/DL, the only thing that holds me back from saying it is his age.

Contador doesn't have that issue though.
 

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Yeah, well I want to see how he does in TA/DL, the only thing that holds me back from saying it is his age.

Contador doesn't have that issue though.

The Tour is the race where a rider's age remembers of itself like anywhere else. If he couldn't do anything having weak competition (your point), what can he hope for in 2013?
 
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The Tour is the race where a rider's age remembers of itself like anywhere else. If he couldn't do anything having weak competition (your point), what can he hope for in 2013?

Virus?

Besides he won it in 2011, that's not so long ago. I give him some credit.
 
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No, I just rank impressions. The last impression always has a bigger priority in any estimations and predictions. Probably you will agree with this in general. The Wiggins' Tour impressed me more than Contador's Vuelta.

Really.. i thought the Vuelta looked considerably harder :eek:
 

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How gracefully you operate with a factor of 'competition'! :) When Contador crushed Rodriguez or Valverde, anyone of you guessed to call competition weak? I doubt.

The strongest riders define the competion. Sky annihilated competition, they made others look absolutely powerless. Contador could not that. He collided with massive opposition out the guys he had always destroyed before. You may dislike that I call a spade a spade, but deal with it.
 
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How gracefully you operate with a factor of 'competition'! :) When Contador crushed Rodriguez or Valverde, anyone of you guessed to call competition weak? I doubt.

The strongest riders define the competion. Sky annihilated competition, they made others look absolutely powerless. Contador could not that. He collided with massive opposition out the guys he had always destroyed before. You may dislike that I call a spade a spade, but deal with it.

Just once I would like to hear you acknowledge that many of the prime candidates for the Tour podium were simply either not there or left the race prematurely, thus potentially altering the eventual outcome. You seem to me to leave that scenario out of any post that you make in reference to the 2012 Tour.
 
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How gracefully you operate with a factor of 'competition'! :) When Contador crushed Rodriguez or Valverde, anyone of you guessed to call competition weak? I doubt.

The strongest riders define the competion. Sky annihilated competition, they made others look absolutely powerless. Contador could not that. He collided with massive opposition out the guys he had always destroyed before. You may dislike that I call a spade a spade, but deal with it.

It's easy to "annihilate" the competition when your only competition comes from a un-motivated (and not well supported) Nibali.

The rest of the guys, Van den broeck (Never would have beat Wiggins anyways), Van Garderen (young guy, can't challenge for the win yet), Zubeldia (never could have contended for the win), Evans (sick most of the year, bad preparation, and aging), as for the rest, most either taken out by Metz, or were guys that never could have contended for the win anyways.

If there had been guys like Rodriguez, Contador, Valverde (in form and un-injured Valverde), then Wiggins would have faced a much harder race. Plus it says something about the competition when the biggest threat comes from your own teammate.