Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[LaFlorecita]

It means that logically in terms of racing aspects Contador has nothing but his winning experience to compete against Froome. This season he has all the possibilities to race what he wants, how he wants, prepare the way he needs for july. And all that with the same result in comparison. First that was allegedly excessive weigtht, then Sky train didn't let smash him everyone, then sickness, now so called allergy while the sportsmen recovers on the next day...Even fans have one argument lest - that notorious far-fetched statement like 'when he's at 100%, no one can follow him'.

ok ............

 

[Cyivel]

I'm not sure anybody should be interfering with him.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

airstream of consciousness babble.

 

[airstream]

Moose McKnucles dividing the thing on normal and not normal ones based on the criteria of what he likes and dislikes.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Moose McKnucles dividing the thing on normal and not normal ones based on the criteria of what he likes and dislikes.

pretty funny because Moose doesn't like Alberto anymore. Try again.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

I'm not sure anybody should be interfering with him.

Who? and i agree with Moose.

 

[Miburo]

It led one veteran of the European press room to turn to his colleagues and say he had seen enough, and that barring illness, the Tour was already won.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/froome-confirms-tour-favourite-status-at-dauphine

The most annoying thing is that you can't call it idiotic...

 

[airstream]

pretty funny because Moose doesn't like Alberto anymore. Try again.

I didn't imply Alberto at all

 

[Cyivel]

Who? and i agree with Moose.

Airstream wanted to know who was going to interfere with Alberto.

 

[airstream]

Airstream wanted to know who was going to interfere with Alberto.

Right.. 'Interfere him to be in the shape he wants'

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Airstream wanted to know who was going to interfere with Alberto.

 

[Miburo]

I also have the pollen allergies and it kicked in today with me. Nose and eyes are annoyed.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I didn't imply Alberto at all

Moose McKnucles dividing the thing on normal and not normal ones based on the criteria of what he likes and dislikes.

okay well try to make more sense then from now on

 

[icefire]

It led one veteran of the European press room to turn to his colleagues and say he had seen enough, and that barring illness, the Tour was already won.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/froome-confirms-tour-favourite-status-at-dauphine

The most annoying thing is that you can't call it idiotic...

Where was that veteran in 1996?

 

[ILovecycling]

I also have the pollen allergies and it kicked in today with me. Nose and eyes are annoyed.

Yeah it suc.ks,I had the same problem yesterday,very very annoying

 

[Taxus4a]

He was better than I thought today. He was similar to when could not drop Braijkovic.
But there is a difference, today it was a short stage with only a final mountain, ideal for Alberto and today Froome was who attack and take time. So the difference is more than 4 seconds.
I said yesterday I hoped him to help Rogers, but it seem like podium in dauohiné is not important to Saxo, it is more important to show something from Contador or try to get a stage win...well, it os ok, It is a respetable decision, but Andy use to help in the same situation, and I consider that more gentle.

 

[R0BL4MBT0N]

He was better than I thought today. He was similar to when could not drop Braijkovic.
But there is a difference, today it was a short stage with only a final mountain, ideal for Alberto and today Froome was who attack and take time. So the difference is more than 4 seconds.
I said yesterday I hoped him to help Rogers, but it seem like podium in dauohiné is not important to Saxo, it is more important to show something from Contador or try to get a stage win...well, it os ok, It is a respetable decision, but Andy use to help in the same situation, and I consider that more gentle.

I don't see what Alberto could have done to help Rogers tbh. Rogers is riding the Sky train straight to a podium as it is anyway.

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Alberto doesn't seem too far off the form he had for the Vuelta last year really (still failing to finish off the last 500m of every stage - he's been doing this post 2009 tbh, its just he used to have a bigger gap going into the final). I think yesterday was a bad day - his position looked bad and his allergies would have effected him. Today at altitude, the allergies have less effect so today is probably a reasonable indication of form. And to those who suggest he was struggling with 6km to go, thats just him in recent years, witness Milano-Torino last year.

As it is he obviously will improve a bit, but I think the anomaly is less to do with Alberto's lack of form, more to do with the fact the Froome is just going very well.

 

[bridgeman]

Sniffies;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY5OSDxwOEo

 

[LaFlorecita]

He was better than I thought today. He was similar to when could not drop Braijkovic.
But there is a difference, today it was a short stage with only a final mountain, ideal for Alberto and today Froome was who attack and take time. So the difference is more than 4 seconds.
I said yesterday I hoped him to help Rogers, but it seem like podium in dauohiné is not important to Saxo, it is more important to show something from Contador or try to get a stage win...well, it os ok, It is a respetable decision, but Andy use to help in the same situation, and I consider that more gentle.

I was thinking about this today. As I see it, it doesn't make any sense for Alberto to help Rogers

- Alberto is a better climber than Rogers so Rogers would probably struggle to follow him
- sky do all the work, why help them? Tire them out.
- If Alberto and Rogers both follow the sky train, they will probably get like 4th and 5th on the stage If Alberto attacks there is still a chance he can win, and as we saw today Rogers just paces himself up the climb and finishes in a respectable position (5th) I don't believe Rogers would've done any better had Alberto paced him.

but Andy use to help in the same situation, and I consider that more gentle

okay maybe you should realize Andy always sucks in preparation races. Alberto doesn't. And believe me, the team talked about this, and this was the team's tactic.

But I get it, you just don't like Alberto, that much is clear. I wonder why. I guess because he disappointed you with regards to clinic reasons (judging by your posts in the clinic)

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Yes,Mick Rogers is better than Velasco, that much is clear. And from what roundabout and ferminal told me, i miss a great performance from him today

 

[LaFlorecita]

Yes,Mick Rogers is better than Velasco, that much is clear. And from what roundabout and ferminal told me, i miss a great performance from him today

Alberto was better

 

[Taxus4a]

I was thinking about this today. As I see it, it doesn't make any sense for Alberto to help Rogers

- Alberto is a better climber than Rogers so Rogers would probably struggle to follow him
- sky do all the work, why help them? Tire them out.
- If Alberto and Rogers both follow the sky train, they will probably get like 4th and 5th on the stage If Alberto attacks there is still a chance he can win, and as we saw today Rogers just paces himself up the climb and finishes in a respectable position (5th) I don't believe Rogers would've done any better had Alberto paced him.



okay maybe you should realize Andy always sucks in preparation races. Alberto doesn't. And believe me, the team talked about this, and this was the team's tactic.

But I get it, you just don't like Alberto, that much is clear. I wonder why. I guess because he disappointed you with regards to clinic reasons (judging by your posts in the clinic)

Maybe you are right.
Attack and try to win the stage is ok even for Rogers.
But Idont agree one thing.
Alberto is not so better climber on Rogers in this Dauphine. One is diesel, one is explosive, but the result today was similar. And Rogers is 5 in GC

 

[LaFlorecita]

Maybe you are right.
Attack and try to win the stage is ok even for Rogers.
But Idont agree one thing.
Alberto is not so better climber on Rogers in this Dauphine. One is diesel, one is explosive, but the result today was similar. And Rogers is 5 in GC

The result wasn't similar. Alberto finished in front of Rogers.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Alberto was better

The key word being "was".

 

[LaFlorecita]

The key word being "was".

Lol