arvc40 said:SiAp1984 said:What a load of crap
Then why quote it?
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arvc40 said:SiAp1984 said:What a load of crap
what a a great postSiAp1984 said:First: For obvious reasons, AC is not a champion.
Second: I have to admit that I never would have believed that AC could do a spring like this (even if the gaps between him and his rivals have often been insignificant, and Rodriguez and uninjured Froome were stronger or equal to him in the mountains).
Third: Barring Froome crashes again, I stand my ground: AC will never win the Tour again.
SiAp1984 said:First: For obvious reasons, AC is not a champion.
Second: I have to admit that I never would have believed that AC could do a spring like this (even if the gaps between him and his rivals have often been insignificant, and Rodriguez and uninjured Froome were stronger or equal to him in the mountains).
Third: Barring Froome crashes again, I stand my ground: AC will never win the Tour again.
SiAp1984 said:murali said:I just dont understand who were the "experts" who wrote off AC after last year's TdF.
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AC is a Champion. ... QUOTE]
First: For obvious reasons, AC is not a champion.
Second: I have to admit that I never would have believed that AC could do a spring like this (even if the gaps between him and his rivals have often been insignificant, and Rodriguez and uninjured Froome were stronger or equal to him in the mountains).
Third: Barring Froome crashes again, I stand my ground: AC will never win the Tour again.
SiAp1984 said:murali said:I just dont understand who were the "experts" who wrote off AC after last year's TdF.
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AC is a Champion. ... QUOTE]
First: For obvious reasons, AC is not a champion.
Second: I have to admit that I never would have believed that AC could do a spring like this (even if the gaps between him and his rivals have often been insignificant, and Rodriguez and uninjured Froome were stronger or equal to him in the mountains).
Third: Barring Froome crashes again, I stand my ground: AC will never win the Tour again.
LaFlorecita said:Kreuziger, Roche and Rogers definitely, though I'd prefer them to leave Roche at home. CAS definitely not. Apparently Contador asked for Majka on the Tour team but Majka has not decided yet.
pigoonse said:The racing on stage 8 was great. Would like every stage to be raced like that.
My regret is that Contador did not figure it out that he needed to chase down Talansky and the others sooner. As it happened though, might work out in his favor - he will not be similarly fooled again. Better to misread a clue to attack in the Dauphine than in the TdF.
Contador will be ready for anything.
The voice of calm reason. You're no fun at all!inthepink said:1. Roche rode very well for Contador last Tour except his climbing form wasn't there ....IT usually takes him ages ot get to form and is in his 2nd GT he is at his best...But there was no denying he was committed to Contador...In the stage in Aux 3 Dom he blew chasing leaders across the valley (which he caught) . He rode his heart out on stage 13 .. He chased on Mountains stages to be up there ...totally ridiculous to suggest he should be left at home
orangerider said:He wasn't targeting for the win, just to clobber Froome, so the goal was achieved. Of course, I'm sure the win would've been nice icing on the cake so a lesson learned to ensure not to get tunnel vision over just one rider. Now that Froome has been eliminated as a potential champion, Contador needs to size up his real opponents and not underestimate them. Fortunately there is no Quintana or Wiggins to spoil the party.
Afrank said:Froome eliminated as a contender for the Tour? Your kidding, right?
Afrank said:Froome eliminated as a contender for the Tour? Your kidding, right?
But that was his goal.To help AC in the mountains,its nice he helped on the flat,but there were other riders for it,so he was almost useless.inthepink said:1. Roche rode very well for Contador last Tour except his climbing form wasn't there ....IT usually takes him ages ot get to form and is in his 2nd GT he is at his best...But there was no denying he was committed to Contador...In the stage in Aux 3 Dom he blew chasing leaders across the valley (which he caught) . He rode his heart out on stage 13 .. He chased on Mountains stages to be up there ...totally ridiculous to suggest he should be left at home
Contador has long-term contract,so how could they change it2. The reason TCS hasn't better domestiques is money....Bjarne didn't have it till too late last year and most riders gone by then Also Contador has highest salary in peloton so hard ot afford anyone prior to that...So mayeb if Contador not paid so much last year could have afforded more domestiques last year
They just made terrible mistake when breakaway was forming,you dont have to know anything else,these are elementary rules of cycling3.Riders like Kreuziger need to be given a chance to ride for himself and is doing so in TdeSuisse so team at Dauphine couldn't be helped but punters vile about them on social media...wihtout knowing what happened at beginning of the stage
I agree with you on Froome with one exception,he may give up when he will see Contador is better,he is mentally fragile (almost like Wiggins imo)4. People here are also writing Froome off too soon....Its a long Tour and you do it at your peril....he is a tremendous rider and will not give it up easily and can TT better than Contador
5. Valverde will also be a major threat as will Garmin
6. Majka wanting to ride the Vuelata and not the Tour is him NOT thinking about himself as you accuse Roche of.....rubbish
Nobody is claiming he is invincible.Or to claim he will be better than Froome means he is invincible?7. Last year after the Tour I seem to remember people writing Contador off and saying he is too old , past it etc.. Same people now think he is invincible...Cycling should teach the 'experts' on here that nothing is certain or constant
inthepink said:1. Roche rode very well for Contador last Tour except his climbing form wasn't there ....IT usually takes him ages ot get to form and is in his 2nd GT he is at his best...But there was no denying he was committed to Contador...In the stage in Aux 3 Dom he blew chasing leaders across the valley (which he caught) . He rode his heart out on stage 13 .. He chased on Mountains stages to be up there ...totally ridiculous to suggest he should be left at home
2. The reason TCS hasn't better domestiques is money....Bjarne didn't have it till too late last year and most riders gone by then Also Contador has highest salary in peloton so hard ot afford anyone prior to that...So mayeb if Contador not paid so much last year could have afforded more domestiques last year
3.Riders like Kreuziger need to be given a chance to ride for himself and is doing so in TdeSuisse so team at Dauphine couldn't be helped but punters vile about them on social media...wihtout knowing what happened at beginning of the stage
4. People here are also writing Froome off too soon....Its a long Tour and you do it at your peril....he is a tremendous rider and will not give it up easily and can TT better than Contador
5. Valverde will also be a major threat as will Garmin
6. Majka wanting to ride the Vuelata and not the Tour is him NOT thinking about himself as you accuse Roche of.....rubbish
7. Last year after the Tour I seem to remember people writing Contador off and saying he is too old , past it etc.. Same people now think he is invincible...Cycling should teach the 'experts' on here that nothing is certain or constant
source pleasepeloton said:Contador looks better than I've seen him in since, maybe -11?
He looks ready for the Tour, but the team will be vital.
Paulinho and Jesus are on the Tour team, despite the abysmal Dauphine final day. Roman K., Roche and Rogers too.
Tosatto/Bennati for the cobbled stage?
Majka is not riding the Tour
peloton said:Polish guys on twitter
ILovecycling said:people who know Rafal or staff (relevant source)? can you give me a link,i am interested thanks
murali said:If Belkin is in trouble, will Riis be able to get Kelderman?
I was reply to your quote above ...if you are going to make such statements then accept the replyOriginally Posted by LaFlorecita
Yeah I think so. Though I really hope they don't take Roche (and Paulinho). They're pretty useless as domestiques. Roche because he'd much rather ride for himself, and Paulinho because he's simply not good enough.
I hesitated if its worth an answer,cuz its look like Jofans armada is coming this month,but on the other you did decent post (but with lot of bs),so here is my asnwer.
Its not ridiculous at all to suggest he needs to stay home,there are better riders in team for Contador
inthepink said:And finally do you think Klerderman or Van De Broek or any of the top GCs will go to Tinkoff Saxo to ride as domestique when they can ride as leader somewhere else ....
Kelerderman to OGE
What Tinkoff Saxo need are domestiques ...not leaders ...they have enough of those ...good climbers who are happy not to be leaders