Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[LaFlorecita]

But hey why are you even here when you "dislike" him so much?

 

[LaFlorecita]

Alberto is the King, the Champion, the God

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Yeah and then how do you explain the fact that right after his attack the road flattened, that was surely because he isn't punchy enough lol, seriously you're crapping bull****.

No, that's because our little Spanish friend doesn't know the gradient of Montjuic...

Even the 'crappy' Gilbert of this season was able to catch Rodriguez, how can it be Contador could not? Even lost extra time to Valverde in the end.

But, please, stay in your fairytale modus operandi.

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Montjuic

It is fair to say Contador is not up to 13% gradients.

 

[LaFlorecita]

No, that's because our little Spanish friend doesn't know the gradient of Montjuic...

Even the 'crappy' Gilbert of this season was able to catch Rodriguez, how can it be Contador could not? Even lost extra time to Valverde in the end.

But, please, stay in your fairytale modus operandi.

Oh that's very simply he was just not good enough. But you are saying he just made it up as an excuse and that is BS.

Anyway if you had paid attention you would have noticed that people were saying he didn't know the route very well re: his mistimed attack not re: him not being able to follow Purito lol, you fail.

 

[LaFlorecita]

And I am sick of all the people saying I am blind or live in a fantasy world or as you say it "fairytale modus operandi" anyway I just see it as proof they can't handle the discussion with me lol, they don't have any facts so they just throw in a personal assault.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Montjuic

It is fair to say Contador is not up to 13% gradients.

Lol you are not very smart (I would have chosen a better term but that would get me banned for "insulting" lol), steep gradients is what Alberto excels in.

 

[pastronef]

A Spanjard not knowing Montjuic is like a Flandrien not knowing 'the Wall of Geraardsbergen', an Italian not knowing the Poggio, a Dutchman not knowing the Cauberg, a Frenchman not knowing Quatorze Juillet.

is Quatorze Juillet a climb?

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

steep gradients is what Alberto excels in.

You must be right, hell, how many times has he won la Fleche Wallonne? Six, seven times?

Do you know the difference between a puncheur and a climber?

And I am sick of all the people saying I am blind or live in a fantasy world or as you say it "fairytale modus operandi" anyway I just see it as proof they can't handle the discussion with me lol, they don't have any facts so they just throw in a personal assault

You seem to be quit happy to discuss with yourself.

is Quatorze Juillet a climb?

Could have named the Forrest of Wallers, just the same, Carrefour de l'Arbre, even better.

 

[Publicus]

No, that's because our little Spanish friend doesn't know the gradient of Montjuic...

Even the 'crappy' Gilbert of this season was able to catch Rodriguez, how can it be Contador could not? Even lost extra time to Valverde in the end.

But, please, stay in your fairytale modus operandi.

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Montjuic

It is fair to say Contador is not up to 13% gradients.

I hate to interrupt your discussion with LaFlo but did you really say that his not knowing the climb was BS and then turned around and said that he doesn't know the gradient???? Wouldn't that prove that he wasn't familiar with climb (obviously drawing into question his nationality, but that is another matter )?

 

[Arnout]

But hey why are you even here when you "dislike" him so much?

As far as I know this is a discussion thread go and start albertocontadoriloveyousomuchforums.freeforum.com if you want.

Lol you are not very smart (I would have chosen a better term but that would get me banned for "insulting" lol), steep gradients is what Alberto excels in.

Categorically untrue. In fact, when he gets beaten, it is in climbs with steep gradients. Zoncolan, Huy, etc.

 

[Publicus]

As far as I know this is a discussion thread go and start albertocontadoriloveyousomuchforums.freeforum.com if you want.



Categorically untrue. In fact, when he gets beaten, it is in climbs with steep gradients. Zoncolan, Huy, etc.

On the first point, she tried. That was the genesis of this thread (I believe it was called "I love Alberto Contador" or something to that effect).

On the second, I just don't even know where to begin. I think the Huy is fair simply because he was beaten (mistimed his attacked). Zoncolan, at the 2011 Giro, is a bit of a different story (tactical considerations were such that he was not racing for the stage win but really to crush his competition (toying with Nibbles and Scarponi). By your implication, he races to win ALL MTFs in a GT and if he doesn't win it's because he couldn't. I think he's not as explosive a climber on the shorter, steeper gradients--not the way he is on longer climbs. I don't think you'd get much argument from anyone about that.

 

[gthx_gthx_]

As far as I know this is a discussion thread go and start albertocontadoriloveyousomuchforums.freeforum.com if you want.



Categorically untrue. In fact, when he gets beaten, it is in climbs with steep gradients. Zoncolan, Huy, etc.

Huy and Zoncolan are way different , you'd never see Gilbert crushing everyone on the Zoncolan , they are just not in the same category.
Besides Contador won on the Angliru , and he put 1 min on everybody on the Grossglockner they have irregular gradient sure , but they're quite steep.
I agree th, on short steep climbs he is not that great. Though i am not sure we have seen him in top shape (and competing for the win) in a lot of shorts steep climbs. He was up there last year in the Mur de Bretagne last year.

 

[El Pistolero]

Contador was suffering from a cold at Fléche Wallonne.

 

[Arnout]

On the first point, she tried. That was the genesis of this thread (I believe it was called "I love Alberto Contador" or something to that effect).

On the second, I just don't even know where to begin. I think the Huy is fair simply because he was beaten (mistimed his attacked). Zoncolan, at the 2011 Giro, is a bit of a different story (tactical considerations were such that he was not racing for the stage win but really to crush his competition (toying with Nibbles and Scarponi). By your implication, he races to win ALL MTFs in a GT and if he doesn't win it's because he couldn't. I think he's not as explosive a climber on the shorter, steeper gradients--not the way he is on longer climbs. I don't think you'd get much argument from anyone about that.

Well she tried and failed, so she simply has to live with it and not react so childish every time a non-fan comes in.

On the second point, we can have a discussion about 2011 Zoncolan for hours I guess, but there is nothing that indicates he didn't go for the win that stage or he held back. In fact, he wasn't able to get rid of Nibali in a satisfactory manner even in the last km. I agree with you about Huy, that's not the best example. However, I think, in good form and with proper preparation (make of this what you want) he is the best climber on the Tour de France like ascents, but on the steeper gradients there are people that can beat him, like Anton, like Purito. Maybe he still excels in them, but the others do more. Could be. I doubt it though.

 

[Fidolix]

A Spanjard who doesn't know Montjuic? I say BS.

Yes you right, it´s probably why he went to early and on the wrong climb wasting energy and opportunity, course he´s spanish and pr definition must have known it... that make sense.

He should have known it but it´s obvious he didn´t.

 

[LaFlorecita]

As far as I know this is a discussion thread go and start albertocontadoriloveyousomuchforums.freeforum.com if you want.

May I remind you of the fact that this used to be the I Love Alberto thread until some mod thought it was a good idea to make this a fangirl vs hater thread?

Categorically untrue. In fact, when he gets beaten, it is in climbs with steep gradients. Zoncolan, Huy, etc.

On long climbs Alberto makes the difference on the steep gradients. I'm not saying he's Purito but to say he's not up to 13% gradients is BS.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I hate to interrupt your discussion with LaFlo but did you really say that his not knowing the climb was BS and then turned around and said that he doesn't know the gradient???? Wouldn't that prove that he wasn't familiar with climb (obviously drawing into question his nationality, but that is another matter )?

Yes that was weird

 

[LaFlorecita]

Well she tried and failed, so she simply has to live with it and not react so childish every time a non-fan comes in.

Childish. I haven't heard that one before

FGL is not trying to discuss anything, he's only talking BS and doesn't want to discuss anything with someone with a different pov.

I just don't understand why people come here when they "dislike" him. I mean it's not like you'll find this thread interesting anyway.

 

[LaFlorecita]

By the way Arnout I can understand you don't like me, put me on ignore if you want but please stop being so obvious about not liking me because it's getting more and more annoying.

 

[Arnout]

FGL is not trying to discuss anything, he's only talking BS and doesn't want to discuss anything with someone with a different pov.

I just don't understand why people come here when they "dislike" him. I mean it's not like you'll find this thread interesting anyway.

That's just rubbish. Contador, whether you like it or not, is a prominent cyclist and he will attract both fans and neutrals and dislikers. He's still gonna win racers, even when there are dislikers, so why shouldn't they come here.

And don't get me started on those pathetic love and hate threads. It's a forum, with different views. Deal with it or leave.

By the way Arnout I can understand you don't like me, put me on ignore if you want but please stop being so obvious about not liking me because it's getting more and more annoying.

I've no idea if I like you or not as I've never met you. It's irrelevant. Just stop making a scene everytime someone with a different view than yours comes in and I won't start messages about my assumed liking or disliking of you anymore.

 

[Carols]

People are allowed to disagree LaFlo; the thread is for everyone. As long as they observe the RR forum no doping talk, no insulting or personal attacks it is quite okay not to love Alberto. It happens, just stay cool and calm like Alberto does

 

[LaFlorecita]

People are allowed to disagree LaFlo; the thread is for everyone. As long as they observe the RR forum no doping talk, no insulting or personal attacks it is quite okay not to love Alberto. It happens, just stay cool and calm like Alberto does

Yeah.... No.

 

[Miburo]

On long climbs Alberto makes the difference on the steep gradients. I'm not saying he's Purito but to say he's not up to 13% gradients is BS.

If i remember correctly Contador destroyed purito on the angliru which nearly doesn't have parts under 13% lol

Before someone is going to say purito wasn't so good back then, contador aswell wasn't so great back then. Not as good as tour'09 or giro'11.

If Contador is 100% it doesn't matter which climb it is he'll destroy them all.

Let it be a small muur of 20 %, a 10 km climb of 6 %, a 5 km climb of 15 % or a 15 km climb of 10 %

IT DOES NOT MATTER WHEN HE'S 100%.

People call him The Great One for a reason, you know

 

[LaFlorecita]

That's just rubbish. Contador, whether you like it or not, is a prominent cyclist and he will attract both fans and neutrals and dislikers. He's still gonna win racers, even when there are dislikers, so why shouldn't they come here.

And don't get me started on those pathetic love and hate threads. It's a forum, with different views. Deal with it or leave.

I've no idea if I like you or not as I've never met you. It's irrelevant. Just stop making a scene everytime someone with a different view than yours comes in and I won't start messages about my assumed liking or disliking of you anymore.

It is a shame but I'll have to put you on ignore. You do post interesting things but gee you are annoying. Not even the biggest Alberto haters are on my ignore list.

 

[LaFlorecita]

If i remember correctly Contador destroyed purito on the angliru which nearly doesn't have parts under 13% lol

Before someone is going to say purito wasn't so good back then, contador aswell wasn't so great back then. Not as good as tour'09 or giro'11.

If Contador is 100% it doesn't matter which climb it is he'll destroy them all.

Let it be a small muur of 20 %, a 10 km climb of 6 %, a 5 km climb of 15 % or a 15 km climb of 10 %

IT DOES NOT MATTER WHEN HE'S 100%.

People call him The Great One for a reason, you know

Lol +1000