Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

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airstream said:
It is very easy to dispute. UCI helped Contador hugely in 2006-07. Just monstrously. So unwritten laws always played for him. Don't underrate this.
Hi Airstream

Your post is borderline clinic, which I hope you realize, but since you didn't start with mentioning the UCI vs. AC, I'll just let you know :)
 

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Red Rick said:
I support the guy because he makes the sport more exciting on his own. Even if he crushes the competition, he still makes it exciting. I don't support anyone because of existing results. You may consider this irrelevant, but as a tennis fan, I've never supported Federer in any of his 24 GS finals, despite the fact that he is the GOAT

What is excitement then? Show? Overwhelming dominance? Intrigue?
 
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airstream said:
I can guess who is behind his back! :D

My guess is that it's you with a jersey for Contador to autograph with this likely being prior to the point that you became a Contador fan in extreme denial.:p

I think secretly you cheer for Contador but in the forum you have this strange idea that it's unfashionable to support anyone that is so successful, so you take the Contador hate to the extreme end of the spectrum.

If you really want to be "fashionable" and root for the underdog, why aren't you rooting for JVdB, Gesink, Samu, Purito? Or to take it even further, real long shots like any Frenchman who's made the top ten in the Tour? Now that would really make you one of the avant garde.:)
 

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Angliru said:
My guess is that it's you with a jersey for Contador to autograph with this likely being prior to the point that you became a Contador fan in extreme denial.:p

I think secretly you cheer for Contador but in the forum you have this strange idea that it's unfashionable to support anyone that is so successful, so you take the Contador hate to the extreme end of the spectrum.

If you really want to be "fashionable" and root for the underdog, why aren't you rooting for JVdB, Gesink, Samu, Purito? Or to take it even further, real long shots like any Frenchman who's made the top ten in the Tour? Now that would really make you one of the avant garde.:)
Actually, I'm just for GT discussions. Don't like other races too much and follow them only to know what perspectives everyone has. So we could discuss GT stuff in any thread. But since there a lot of you (Contador fans) and I'm the one, discussions forcedly take this shape. And yet I root for many riders like Haimar Zubeldia, Mikel Astarloza or Arnold Jennesson, but they are not popular personages all to pieces and no one will discuss them.
 
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airstream said:
Actually, I'm just for GT discussions. Don't like other races too much and follow them only to know what perspectives everyone has. So we could discuss GT stuff in any thread. But since there a lot of you (Contador fans) and I'm the one, discussions forcedly take this shape. And yet I root for many riders like Haimar Zubeldia, Mikel Astarloza or Arnold Jennesson, but they are not popular personages all to pieces and no one will discuss them.

Is Atarloza still riding? Which team?

And it amazes me that zubeldia is still around, i still remember the tour 2003 where he was doing pretty damn good.
 

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Miburo said:
Is Atarloza still riding? Which team?

And it amazes me that zubeldia is still around, i still remember the tour 2003 where he was doing pretty damn good.

Yes, Astarloza rides for Euskaltel without visible ambitions. I remember he rode alone about 50km via Iseran, Telegraphe and Galibier in 2007, but then miraculously could stay with maillot jaune group after big games started. Fantastic stuff!

Zubeldia is just a typology of not attacking GC rider. Die, but keep up! :)
 
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LaFlorecita said:
what about people who already supported Alberto before his tdf win in 2007? How do they fit into your theory "all fans of Alberto only support him because of his results"?

Catching up.......I've followed Alberto since 2000/2001 when he first hit the junior/U23 scene. Saw him ride a race we caught while on holiday and he won the Spanish U23 TT champs just after that.

Why do I support him?? Because he has the attitude of the greats and he truly has fun during races. Alpe D'huez stage in 2011, that was all for fun, all for a laugh, he knew there was no way in hell the peloton would let him get far enough away to take the win but he still did it and that's what sets him apart from the formulaic riders we've become used to.

I get an extra buzz watching a race knowing he's in the peloton and KNOWING he's going to set a flame under the race at some point, it's spectacular, it's exciting and that's what sport and its grand champions should be, Berto is that and more!
 
Red Rick said:
When he's 5th in GC on the last mountain stage he's like lolz, I attack

Yep. With nothing to gain in a race where he had no chance to win Alberto decides to just light up the peloton. Awesome. Anyone else would be in the back with the sprinters hanging on cars.
AC is having fun, he loves to race.
 
airstream said:
Actually, I'm just for GT discussions. Don't like other races too much and follow them only to know what perspectives everyone has. So we could discuss GT stuff in any thread. But since there a lot of you (Contador fans) and I'm the one, discussions forcedly take this shape. And yet I root for many riders like Haimar Zubeldia, Mikel Astarloza or Arnold Jennesson, but they are not popular personages all to pieces and no one will discuss them.

I've always been a fan of the Spanish, Italian and Columbian climbers and when Contador came along with his out of the saddle climbing style when he's attacking reminded me of one of my favorites, Iban Mayo. You can imagne my excitement with he and Zubeldia climbing with the elite in the Tour.:) I always hoped that Mayo would somehow eventually dethrone Armstrong, making him eat his dust in the mountains but it was never to be. When I first saw Contador, the Paris-Nice where he almost crashed when his shoe clicked out of his pedal while he was attacking on a descent, I immediatately became a fan. His standing up to Armstrong and Bruyneel in 2009, when it was pretty much expected by the LA throng of fans (and himself) to be a sauntering parade back to the top of the Tour podium, and Contador delivering the smackdown that he long deserved cemented it for me.

As far as the grand tours go, they are the highlights of my cycling season because of the (potential) epic nature of the drama that develops over the course of the 3 weeks. Especially with the Tour, as far as with those with gc aspirations, all the major weeklong stage races are active in building up the drama and anticipation for the month of July.
 
Siriuscat said:
Why do I support him?? Because he has the attitude of the greats and he truly has fun during races. Alpe D'huez stage in 2011, that was all for fun, all for a laugh, he knew there was no way in hell the peloton would let him get far enough away to take the win but he still did it and that's what sets him apart from the formulaic riders we've become used to.

I get an extra buzz watching a race knowing he's in the peloton and KNOWING he's going to set a flame under the race at some point, it's spectacular, it's exciting and that's what sport and its grand champions should be, Berto is that and more!

+1

Whenever he takes the start line the excitement level goes up because win or lose he will Always give you your moneys worth!!!!

When I first saw him climb in 2006(might have been earlier) I thought he might turn out to be as exciting as Pantani (my all time favorite) and he hasn't disappointed!!!
 
Angliru said:
when Contador came along with his out of the saddle climbing style when he's attacking reminded me of one of my favorites, Iban Mayo. You can imagne my excitement with he and Zubeldia climbing with the elite in the Tour.:) I always hoped that Mayo would somehow eventually dethrone Armstrong, making him eat his dust in the mountains but it was never to be.

I always loved Mayo!!!! So mentally fragile though :( Anyone that dethroned Lance would have been okay with me but I was rooting big time for Mayo!

Contador is like a gift from the cycling gods though. He has it all; everything required to be a Great Champion.


As far as the grand tours go, they are the highlights of my cycling season because of the (potential) epic nature of the drama that develops over the course of the 3 weeks.

Indeed GTs top my list; but I'll happily watch just about any pro event that is on tv or has a stream :)
 
airstream said:
Actually, I'm just for GT discussions. Don't like other races too much and follow them only to know what perspectives everyone has. So we could discuss GT stuff in any thread. But since there a lot of you (Contador fans) and I'm the one, discussions forcedly take this shape. And yet I root for many riders like Haimar Zubeldia, Mikel Astarloza or Arnold Jennesson, but they are not popular personages all to pieces and no one will discuss them.

Not at all, there are many Schleck fans on here, and I'm one. They just don't spout the same amount of anti Contador posts that you do. I'm a huge fan of both for what it is worth.

You missed out Froome from your second list, whom you have seemed to have abandoned now again in favour of Andy. But your posts are the same regardless of the 2. I'm certainly leaning to you just having a big personal dislike for Contador for a reason I quite can't see.

Or maybe you just like being contraire, which is getting into troll territory. And I'm getting pretty much bored with it.