Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[LaFlorecita]

You need to chill, keep relying on the 3rd week it int happening you been 1 of a few optimists who all year have put the performances down to peaking for the TDF. Contador is not even in the top 5 of strongest riders, the ITT will tell more. Only thing stopping Froome winning is if Sky fail again, their is only 1 more multi mountain stage left. Froome is the strongest by far, if Movistar were not so silly yday and blow Quintana up he could possibly be more of a rival, as Valverde has zero chance.

Wait you are telling someone else to chill? Rofl. Chill and stop jumping on everyone who doesn't say 'Froome's gonna win by 5 minutes plus because he is a BOSS lol lmao'

 

[LaFlorecita]

Yes I know but its annoying when all year most new this would be the way, yet some thought he would somehow race bad on purpose and peak for the TDF. UNBELIEVABLE.

And lol when did I say he would not get top 10. I may have said after yday he will struggle for podium though, and I also predicted Kreuziger could well be stronger before the TDF and people laughed.

Andy says hello TANK91.

Listen up, not everyone expected this. Oh the great TANK91 predicted Alberto would suck, what a grand prediction!! You know some people actually trust Alberto when he says he's peaking for tdf. Obviously that's not the case so he will probably lose this tour. So what?! Nobody's making a big deal out of it except for you. Just go gloat somewhere else.

 

[darwin553]

Kreuziger seems to be bringing more form into the tour than Contador. Saxo would do well to switch their focus over to him.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Kreuziger seems to be bringing more form into the tour than Contador. Saxo would do well to switch their focus over to him.

And you think you know more about the team from your armchair than Saxo. Whenever Saxo decide to switch to Roman is the right time, as long as they don't we can be assured Alberto is the better bet.

 

[darwin553]

And you think you know more about the team from your armchair than Saxo. Whenever Saxo decide to switch to Roman is the right time, as long as they don't we can be assured Alberto is the better bet.

Saxo's loss I guess...remember Contador was doing well to keep up with Mick Rogers at times during the Dauphiné...

 

[webvan]

Tomorrow will tell...I must say I'm surprised by Kreuziger so far after so many failed attempts in GTs. The Giro last year was not bad until he had a bad day. Besides he helped Bertie on Saturday without any showboating, just the required small gap to try to make Bertie go faster. Well done!

 

[LaFlorecita]

Saxo's loss I guess...remember Contador was doing well to keep up with Mick Rogers at times during the Dauphiné...

Are you kidding me? He worked for Mick after he lost a lot of time in the tt. He was stronger than Mick on the two mtfs and on the other mountain stage he lost a few seconds after drilling it on the front for 15k

 

[Cimber]

And you think you know more about the team from your armchair than Saxo. Whenever Saxo decide to switch to Roman is the right time, as long as they don't we can be assured Alberto is the better bet.

Well tbh I think Darwin has a point that at the moment Kreuziger is stronger, BUT we all know that Krezuger will alwas falter at some point, and at least have one bad day that will make Contador's bad day to AX3 seem like nothing. I think that Contador will be much stronger than Kreuziger in the Alps, but we will see.

Btw it really annoyes that Movistar and Saxo didnt ride togetehr against from yesterday. Movistar seemed more busy riding for 2nd in the GC than actually going all or nothing for the yellow. At that area COntador is different and we will see Contador going for all or nothing in the Alps at some point. But I just fear taht Movistar will help Sky reel him back in, unless Contador already has a nice gap to Valverde and Quintana at that point. A real shame that they all dont only focus on yellow.

 

[darwin553]

Are you kidding me? He worked for Mick after he lost a lot of time in the tt. He was stronger than Mick on the two mtfs and on the other mountain stage he lost a few seconds after drilling it on the front for 15k

I did say 'at times'

 

[LaFlorecita]

Well tbh I think Darwin has a point that at the moment Kreuziger is stronger, BUT we all know that Krezuger will alwas falter at some point, and at least have one bad day that will make Contador's bad day to AX3 seem like nothing. I think that Contador will be much stronger than Kreuziger in the Alps, but we will see.

Btw it really annoyes that Movistar and Saxo didnt ride togetehr against from yesterday. Movistar seemed more busy riding for 2nd in the GC than actually going all or nothing for the yellow. At that area COntador is different and we will see Contador going for all or nothing in the Alps at some point. But I just fear taht Movistar will help Sky reel him back in, unless Contador already has a nice gap to Valverde and Quintana at that point. A real shame that they all dont only focus on yellow.

Yes he is stronger at the moment but I believe that will change and Alberto will finish podium and Kreuziger somewhere in top 10.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I did say 'at times'

And at times means? The time trial? Mick would've beaten Alberto regardless of Alberto's form.

 

[darwin553]

Yes he is stronger at the moment but I believe that will change and Alberto will finish podium and Kreuziger somewhere in top 10.

Even if it isn't this Tour and Saxo continue to support Contador for the win (albeit blindly if it turns out he is not their no.1 bet), could we see in the future if Kreuziger and Contador remain in the team together the decision that Contador becomes the official domestique of Kreuziger ??

 

[LaFlorecita]

Even if it isn't this Tour and Saxo continue to support Contador for the win (albeit blindly if it turns out he is not their no.1 bet), could we see in the future if Kreuziger and Contador remain in the team together the decision that Contador becomes the official domestique of Kreuziger ??

In a few years time maybe. No way Alberto is going to be support next year.

 

[Cimber]

Even if it isn't this Tour and Saxo continue to support Contador for the win (albeit blindly if it turns out he is not their no.1 bet), could we see in the future if Kreuziger and Contador remain in the team together the decision that Contador becomes the official domestique of Kreuziger ??

No. I dont think Kreuziger will ever win a GT. He always have that offday when ridign as a captain in a GT. He is better off riding as captain in 1 day races and 1 week stage races and then super dom in GTs. Riding as a super dom might actually secure him better GC results since he rides with less pressure (and it might be the pressure that makes him falter).

However, I do hope Saxo will use him tactically and send him on the attack some day (they actually did that yesterday but Movistar helped Froome reel Kreuziger group in)

 

[darwin553]

In a few years time maybe. No way Alberto is going to be support next year.

Not sure Riis will be satisfied with just having a GC podium contending team. He would much rather overall GC, you would think??

 

[LaFlorecita]

Not sure Riis will be satisfied with just having a GC podium contending team. He would much rather overall GC, you would think??

The chance to win gc is much higher with Alberto than with Roman.

 

[darwin553]

The chance to win gc is much higher with Alberto than with Roman.

That maybe so but Contador's chances of getting a podium far outstrips his chances of achieving the win.

 

[Cimber]

Not sure Riis will be satisfied with just having a GC podium contending team. He would much rather overall GC, you would think??

Kreuziger will never be a GT winner. At least not a Tour winner.

 

[darwin553]

Kreuziger will never be a GT winner. At least not a Tour winner.

I'm not saying Kreuziger is Riis' man, someone has to be though - maybe Wiggins??

 

[Cimber]

I'm not saying Kreuziger is Riis' man, someone has to be though - maybe Wiggins??

Wiggins will never win another GT.

I dont think they will give up on Contador. If he flops next year they might make him to Giro + Vuelte for the future. But I dont think they are considering changing leader just yet.

 

[LaFlorecita]

That maybe so but Contador's chances of getting a podium far outstrips his chances of achieving the win.

He just has to pick the right races. Not the races with the tough opposition.

 

[darwin553]

He just has to pick the right races. Not the races with the tough opposition.

Which is opposite to his tours of the past where he has looked to totally dominate. I get those qualities more from Froome though this year...

 

[LaFlorecita]

Which is opposite to his tours of the past where he has looked to totally dominate. I get those qualities more from Froome though this year...

Wut. Isn't that the whole point of this discussion, that he isn't as good as he used to be?

 

[darwin553]

Wut. Isn't that the whole point of this discussion, that he isn't as good as he used to be?

And he can only pick and choose the stages that he can be good at rather than look to be good on every climb. A sign that Riis should be starting to make plans for life without Contador...

 

[User Guide]

Wut. Isn't that the whole point of this discussion, that he isn't as good as he used to be?

Nope he isnt, but is much more likeable though.His win in the Vuelta while not as awe inspiring as pre ban,was so much more exciting,gritty believable etc etc