Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[Christian]

Why do you assume that

What I mean by that is that Tinkov probably doesn't pay him such a huge amount of money that makes it worth sticking with him, instead of going to another team where he might earn less but has less of a hassle

07 - He was on a really strong team. It was just that he and Rasmussen was minutes better than anybody else. So they were alone most of the climbs (Leipheimer and Popo was doing very well that year)
08- had a very strong team, especially in the Vuelta (giro team was not in top shape, for well known reasons)
09 - Lance fight, so yea
10 - strong team in the mountains, Vino, Tira and a Navarro that was arguebly the strongest super domestique in the field that year (Col du Madeleine was very impressive)
11 - yea, not much help there
12 - strong enough team, but aslo here the big 3 (or 4 if we count Quintana ) were miles infornt of the rest when Froomey went out of gas
13 - strong team again.

Really only in 11 his team has been really weak.

You make some good points, and I agree that his teams were rarely weak, but for some reason I often felt like he didn't have as strong a team as he would have deserved. That's not to say that his teams weren't strong, it's just that I felt that by his status he would have deserved an even stronger one... but maybe I am still influenced by Armstrong's super teams, and that is not something that exists so much today anymore, even Sky was weak this year for Froome

 

[Christian]

I must say whenever I see Contador in "normal" clothes I really like his style, it's casual but also chic at the same time. Respect

 

[The Hitch]

In the one on the top right he may actually be smiling

 

[Coolair2970]

In the one on the top right he may actually be smiling

I really like Olegs John Gotti suit. He would have fitted right in back in the 80's in the backstreets of Brooklyn.

 

[Carols]

I must say whenever I see Contador in "normal" clothes I really like his style, it's casual but also chic at the same time. Respect

Awesome jacket he was wearing

 

[jilbiker]

He's not sad, he is angry and wants no part of this…arms folded indicates he is closed off.
it's going to be an interesting year!

Alberto has been plagued in his career by team issues. From a conniving lephiemer to a conniving LA to a conniving Vino to a team that didn't really fancy him (The Rick Porto bunch) to now a conniving Oleg. At some point he has got to think "Is it me??"....Too many missteps for to say "Its them not you" AC.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Alberto has been plagued in his career by team issues. From a conniving lephiemer to a conniving LA to a conniving Vino to a team that didn't really fancy him (The Rick Porto bunch) to now a conniving Oleg. At some point he has got to think "Is it me??"....Too many missteps for to say "Its them not you" AC.

the hell are you talking about? excpet for Lance he has had no problems on any team before

 

[LaFlorecita]

Alberto has been plagued in his career by team issues. From a conniving lephiemer to a conniving LA to a conniving Vino to a team that didn't really fancy him (The Rick Porto bunch) to now a conniving Oleg. At some point he has got to think "Is it me??"....Too many missteps for to say "Its them not you" AC.

I agree

the hell are you talking about? excpet for Lance he has had no problems on any team before

I guess so, when you believe everything about Astana is holy

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

I guess so, when you believe everything about Astana is holy

Aren't they though?

But seriously though. Was just correcting a factual mistake here. I was defending AC from the claims of him being social inept, and a cause of fights and quarrels in all of his teams

 

[LaFlorecita]

Aren't they though?

But seriously though. Was just correcting a factual mistake here. I was defending AC from the claims of him being social inept, and a cause of fights and quarrels in all of his teams

Well it might be true. I'm not saying it is, teammates and ex-teammates usually only seem to have good things to say about him ( the exception being Etxebarria) even Lance doesn't mind him that much anymore. However, fact is that he's had a lot of trouble on his teams so perhaps he is the cause of that.

 

[greenedge]

What I mean by that is that Tinkov probably doesn't pay him such a huge amount of money that makes it worth sticking with him, instead of going to another team where he might earn less but has less of a hassle

You make some good points, and I agree that his teams were rarely weak, but for some reason I often felt like he didn't have as strong a team as he would have deserved. That's not to say that his teams weren't strong, it's just that I felt that by his status he would have deserved an even stronger one... but maybe I am still influenced by Armstrong's super teams, and that is not something that exists so much today anymore, even Sky was weak this year for Froome

07 - He was on a really strong team. It was just that he and Rasmussen was minutes better than anybody else. So they were alone most of the climbs (Leipheimer and Popo was doing very well that year)
11 - yea, not much help there
12 - strong enough team, but aslo here the big 3 (or 4 if we count Quintana ) were miles infornt of the rest when Froomey went out of gas

Don't be silly, he had Tiralongo in the 11 Giro. At the TDF Shleck on the Alpe D Huez stage.

Gusev.

Hernandez.

I suppose his move to SBS had the advantage of Riis so his team strength (or weakness) maybe was not that much of a factor in 2011.

 

[Ferminal]

He is a fighter though so he will be fine i think....Why am i actually praising contador?

Yeh exactly, being angry or up against it brings out the best in him.

 

[LaFlorecita]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS00lKQTHIc

English

 

[Dedelou]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS00lKQTHIc

English

thank you for the link. Alberto's English is not progressing fast but it gives him a bigger forum to express his point of view more directly. So we do hear he wants a more competitive saison than what he planned last year.

 

[Netserk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS00lKQTHIc

English

http://youtu.be/oY0o2FHh64Y

 

[LaFlorecita]

http://youtu.be/oY0o2FHh64Y

Awwwwww that's mean it's not his fault he pronounces season as session!

Seriously though, it's never right, when he's speaking Spanish there are always people who say - "oh learn to speak English" - "oh here comes the guy no one understands" (I read this yesterday in the youtube comments on the livestream link) and when he does speak English those d!cks ask - "what the hell is he saying", "I didn't understand a thing", "is that supposed to be English".

 

[velascoabuela]

Awwwwww that's mean it's not his fault he pronounces season as session!

Seriously though, it's never right, when he's speaking Spanish there are always people who say - "oh learn to speak English" - "oh here comes the guy no one understands" (I read this yesterday in the youtube comments on the livestream link) and when he does speak English those d!cks ask - "what the hell is he saying", "I didn't understand a thing", "is that supposed to be English".

That was English. I understood him perfectly. Keep talking, you handsome devil!

 

[Carols]

That was English. I understood him perfectly.

So did I! Wish he'd speak English more often so I knew what he was saying

 

[LaFlorecita]

That was English. I understood him perfectly. Keep talking, you handsome devil!

Nice

 

[oldcrank]

....... d!cks ask - "what the hell is he saying", "I didn't understand a thing", "is that supposed to be English".

It appears our friends Alberto and Taxus4a have something in common.
Perhaps certain people should "be more understanding" of both.

 

[LaFlorecita]

It appears our friends Alberto and Taxus4a have something in common.
Perhaps certain people should "be more understanding" of both.

There is a difference between having an accent and making occasional grammar mistakes and simply miss-spelling every word. Alberto's written English is okay, he just needs to let go of google translate because that doesn't make it any better

 

[roundabout]

How do you know he writes whatever he writes himself?

 

[LaFlorecita]

How do you know he writes whatever he writes himself?

That's just what I feel based on the pictures he posts.

But you're right, I could be wrong.

 

[Rollthedice]

Nothing compares though to Horner's Spanish:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aEwoyWh5VcU

 

[LaFlorecita]

Nothing compares though to Horner's Spanish:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aEwoyWh5VcU

That is great props to him for trying though.