Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[Eshnar]

Ricco was out of this world climbing wise.

true. And indeed, if I remember correctly, he did beat AC climbing wise.

 

[ILovecycling]

What did Velasco said about his form last year in the tdf? I am asking because i have not really followed him as in what he says,does blah blah.

obvious trash talk,probably watched too much Clay (Ali) in off season lol

 

[LaFlorecita]

I'm sorry, I believe that everything stated here was on topic.
I can understand you are upset, but don't resort to childish behaviour.

Like I said, if people want to argue that Nibali is a deserving winner, there are other threads for that. This thread is about Contador.

 

[Jagartrott]

Like I said, if people want to argue that Nibali is a deserving winner, there are other threads for that. This thread is about Contador.

Which means you cannot state that it is far from certain that Contador would've won or that the words from Riis are disrespectful? This topic is only for agreeing that Contador would've won?
Or that you hope Purito shows Nibali who is the best climber, for that matter?

 

[murali]

Roche with that Ether. I didn't know he had it in him.

Though, really, the Tour lost most of its appeal when Froome crashed out. Everyone with the least bit of cycling knowledge knew that Contador would have utterly demolished the rest of the field. It would have been as boring as the 2011 Giro.

I hope we'll get a real battle next year, with Quintana, too. You just know Nibali will duck the TDF next year, or will race the Giro first so he has that excuse. Then again, with Aru already climbing like a certified G...

yep.
But i had low expectations from Froome the individual this year, esp after the DL crash. i was hoping for a contest in terms of teams.

This year is turning out to be a year of pathetic GTs, unless Vuelta turns things around.

 

[Netserk]

Well in that sprint it was pretty clear that Evans was stronger than Nibali right...?
edit: but really, let's drop the offtopic.

The comparison was with Froome for a very good reason. He was on the front for most of it, held back and still distanced the rest with ease. Because he was much better.

If you think discussing the performance of Contador by comparing it with other performances from the past is off topic, then please link a thread where that is more on topic.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Which means you cannot state that it is far from certain that Contador would've won or that the words from Riis are disrespectful? This topic is only for agreeing that Contador would've won?
Or that you hope Purito shows Nibali who is the best climber, for that matter?

No, you can say that it's disrespectful. But once I see 1000 word essays arguing how Contador fans should suck it up , Nibali is better because he could stay on his bike, that is where the line between on topic and off topic is crossed I believe.

 

[Eshnar]

The comparison was with Froome for a very good reason. He was on the front for most of it, held back and still distanced the rest with ease. Because he was much better.

If you think discussing the performance of Contador by comparing it with other performances from the past is off topic, then please link a thread where that is more on topic.

no, the off-topic was about Nibs.

 

[Jack_89]

Disrespectful where he said that's ? Where?

he only said that Berto will try to gain about 1/1.30 min.Stop.
Where is disrespecful?

I think it also means that he attacks in Chevreres 'cause 1 min in 5-6km on last climb is much

 

[Netserk]

true. And indeed, if I remember correctly, he did beat AC climbing wise.

Yep a bad Contador still beat him in GC fair and square by gaining more time in tts than he lost in mountains.

 

[Netserk]

no, the off-topic was about Nibs.

In our discussion???

 

[Eshnar]

Yep a bad Contador still beat him in GC fair and square by gaining more time in tts than he lost in mountains.

Yes. Because Ricco was a great climber, but not a great GT rider.

 

[Eshnar]

In our discussion???

my advice was directed at everybody.

 

[Cimber]

Which means you cannot state that it is far from certain that Contador would've won or that the words from Riis are disrespectful? This topic is only for agreeing that Contador would've won?
Or that you hope Purito shows Nibali who is the best climber, for that matter?

I dont find it disrespectful that Riis is convinced that Contador would have dropped Nibali.

 

[ILovecycling]

Those talks about gc field...

Nibali:

Vuelta
1.Nibali
2.Mosquera
3.Velits
4.Murito
5.Frank

Giro
1.Nibali
2.Uran
3.Evans
4.Scarponi
5.Betancur

Tour (prediction)
1.Nibali
2.Valverde
3.Porte
4.Pinot
5.TvG

Contador:

Vuelta
1.Contador
2.Valverde
3.Murito
4.Froome
5.Moreno

Giro
1.Contador
2.Scarponi
3.Nibali
4.Gadret
5.Murito

Tour
1.Contador
2.Andy
3.Armstrong
4.Wiggins
5.Frank
Thats a well-deserved 'Triple crown' winner

 

[Netserk]

my advice was directed at everybody.

Ok, just seemed to be directed towards me.

 

[Eshnar]

Those talks about gc field...

Nibali:

Vuelta
1.Nibali
2.Mosquera
3.Velits
4.Murito
5.Frank

Giro
1.Nibali
2.Uran
3.Evans
4.Scarponi
5.Betancur

Tour (prediction)
1.Nibali
2.Valverde
3.Porte
4.Pinot
5.TvG

Contador:

Vuelta
1.Contador
2.Valverde
3.Murito
4.Froome
5.Moreno

Giro
1.Contador
2.Scarponi
3.Nibali
4.Gadret
5.Murito

Tour
1.Contador
2.Andy
3.Armstrong
4.Wiggins
5.Frank
Thats a well-deserved 'Triple crown' winner

Gt winners (at the time) in the top 5 of the GTs you listed won by Nibali: 1 (Evans)
Gt winners (at the time) in the top 5 of the GTs you listed won by Contador: 1 (Nibali)

 

[Netserk]

Gt winners (at the time) in the top 5 of the GTs you listed won by Nibali: 1 (Evans)
Gt winners (at the time) in the top 5 of the GTs you listed won by Contador: 1 (Nibali)

Valverde and Armstrong not GT winners?

 

[ILovecycling]

Gt winners (at the time) in the top 5 of the GTs you listed won by Nibali: 1 (Evans)
Gt winners (at the time) in the top 5 of the GTs you listed won by Contador: 1 (Nibali)

ohh really?
GT winners from Nibali list: 2 (piti+cadel)
GT winners from AC list: 6 (nibbs,piti,froome,andy,armstrong,wiggins...not counting scarponi obviously)

edit: I didnt even mention their peaks,thats for long time,but guess for whom its better

 

[murali]

Is Nibali going to be part of this thread till the TdF completes?


When ppl make references to history, i just hope they know wht they are talking abt.

The results always are impacted by race conditions during those years. Some riders had magical seasons.(every amazing ride doesnt belong to clinic).

 

[Jagartrott]

Disrespectful where he said that's ? Where?

he only said that Berto will try to gain about 1/1.30 min.Stop.
Where is disrespecful?

I think it also means that he attacks in Chevreres 'cause 1 min in 5-6km on last climb is much

"Evertything and everybody were ready. He (Contador) would have smashed them all monday. He would have taken a minute, maybe a minute and a half, on Nibali"

It's a if Nibali has no real skill compared to Contador.
I'll leave it at that. You can take the horse to the water...

 

[Rollthedice]

ohh really?
GT winners from Nibali list: 2 (piti+cadel)
GT winners from AC list: 6 (nibbs,piti,froome,andy,armstrong,wiggins...not counting scarponi obviously)

edit: I didnt even mention their peaks,thats for long time,but guess for whom its better

At the time when those races where won Froome, Andy and Wiggo where NOT GT winners. But this talk is pointless, this is the Alberto Contador Fans Thread, for some around here is the greatest of all time. Real talk about Tour de France 2014 should be taken elswhere.

 

[murali]

Any idea abt Worlds this year?

 

[LaFlorecita]

At the time when those races where won Froome, Andy and Wiggo where NOT GT winners. But this talk is pointless, this is the Alberto Contador Fans Thread, for some around here is the greatest of all time. Real talk about Tour de France 2014 should be taken elswhere.

Indeed, because Alberto is no longer in the race

 

[LaFlorecita]

Any idea abt Worlds this year?

What do you want to know?